AFF or AFF??

AFF or AFF??

Post by Jan Meye » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:34:36


USPA has a time honored tradition of changing acronyms or what they
stand for every few years. I think we need to reconsider what AFF should
stand for.

Today it stands for
Accelerated FreeFall

Accelerated meaning accelerated LEARNING, not that you fall faster than
someone learning via another method.

Now, that it takes ALL students, regardless of training method at least
20 jumps to get off student status, accelerated learning no longer
applies.

How about??
Affluent

Affluent FreeFall

This could catch on. It would be a status symbol of the Ken & Barbie
group. It would be a great way for coaches, organizers & trainers etc to
find out who has deep pockets to pay for very expensive jumps.
Coach: "How did you go through student status?"
New Kid: "Oh, AFF"
Coach thinks - ka-ching$$$$

Any other suggestions???

--
Jan Meyer, D7833

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AFF or AFF??

Post by Da Re » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:18:16

Damn good point there Jan. The new wording does make the 'ancient' S/L-IAD
sound really good, does it not? If the re-wording (Coached until Licensed)
does anything, it makes AFF considerably more expensive, while S/L-IAD stays
roughly the same.

Reverand Jim


Quote:
> USPA has a time honored tradition of changing acronyms or what they
> stand for every few years. I think we need to reconsider what AFF should
> stand for.

> Today it stands for
> Accelerated FreeFall

> Accelerated meaning accelerated LEARNING, not that you fall faster than
> someone learning via another method.

> Now, that it takes ALL students, regardless of training method at least
> 20 jumps to get off student status, accelerated learning no longer
> applies.

> How about??
> Affluent

> Affluent FreeFall

> This could catch on. It would be a status symbol of the Ken & Barbie
> group. It would be a great way for coaches, organizers & trainers etc to
> find out who has deep pockets to pay for very expensive jumps.
> Coach: "How did you go through student status?"
> New Kid: "Oh, AFF"
> Coach thinks - ka-ching$$$$

> Any other suggestions???

> --
> Jan Meyer, D7833

> RU a New Jumper?? - check out Study Guide for USPA License Exams
> at http://www.MakeItHappen.com/products/uspaexam.html


> http://www.MakeItHappen.com
> http://www.DiveMaker.com


 
 
 

AFF or AFF??

Post by TY » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:22:29

Good thinking, Jan.  I'll second it.

Blue ones,
TY

btw... in case anyone (oh, ya, I bet all of you :o) has been wondering where
I am, my computer is on it's way out and I only get about 5 minutes on it
before it crashes.  I have another one coming in about a week or so and then
I'll be back.  In the mean time I have really been jumping on weekends
finally.  Things are going well with my knee and my new canopy!  :o)

Quote:

> USPA has a time honored tradition of changing acronyms or what they
> stand for every few years. I think we need to reconsider what AFF should
> stand for.

> Today it stands for
> Accelerated FreeFall

> Accelerated meaning accelerated LEARNING, not that you fall faster than
> someone learning via another method.

> Now, that it takes ALL students, regardless of training method at least
> 20 jumps to get off student status, accelerated learning no longer
> applies.

> How about??
> Affluent

> Affluent FreeFall

> This could catch on. It would be a status symbol of the Ken & Barbie
> group. It would be a great way for coaches, organizers & trainers etc to
> find out who has deep pockets to pay for very expensive jumps.
> Coach: "How did you go through student status?"
> New Kid: "Oh, AFF"
> Coach thinks - ka-ching$$$$

> Any other suggestions???

> --
> Jan Meyer, D7833

> RU a New Jumper?? - check out Study Guide for USPA License Exams
> at http://www.MakeItHappen.com/products/uspaexam.html


> http://www.MakeItHappen.com
> http://www.DiveMaker.com


 
 
 

AFF or AFF??

Post by Jimb » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:20:38

I had always heard it referred to as:  Accelerated Financial Failure...
Quote:

> USPA has a time honored tradition of changing acronyms or what they
> stand for every few years. I think we need to reconsider what AFF should
> stand for.

> Today it stands for
> Accelerated FreeFall

> Accelerated meaning accelerated LEARNING, not that you fall faster than
> someone learning via another method.

> Now, that it takes ALL students, regardless of training method at least
> 20 jumps to get off student status, accelerated learning no longer
> applies.

> How about??
> Affluent

> Affluent FreeFall

> This could catch on. It would be a status symbol of the Ken & Barbie
> group. It would be a great way for coaches, organizers & trainers etc to
> find out who has deep pockets to pay for very expensive jumps.
> Coach: "How did you go through student status?"
> New Kid: "Oh, AFF"
> Coach thinks - ka-ching$$$$

> Any other suggestions???

> --
> Jan Meyer, D7833

> RU a New Jumper?? - check out Study Guide for USPA License Exams
> at http://www.MakeItHappen.com/products/uspaexam.html


> http://www.MakeItHappen.com
> http://www.DiveMaker.com

 
 
 

AFF or AFF??

Post by Jan Meye » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:52:49

Quote:

> I had always heard it referred to as:  Accelerated Financial Failure...

Boy, did I goof!
Here's the quote from my AFFCC course materials (1986)
"This program is called 'Accelerated Freefall' because the learning
process is three to five times faster than with the traditional static
line progression program."

Anyone care to quote a more recent AFFCC course materials?

I 'forgot' it was 3 to 5X faster - sorry.

so let me see...
suppose S/L = 20 then AFF should be 4-7 jumps
but it's 20 jumps...
so that means S/L should take 60 to 100 jumps..
but wait... someone can be a Coach at 100 jumps...
I'm soooo confused ?????
USPA please change the acronym because it's confusing.....
or wait - a better thing ---
make 'cleared to jumpmaster yourself' = 'off student status'

So what exactly is the advantage of going the AFF route today???

Quote:


> > USPA has a time honored tradition of changing acronyms or what they
> > stand for every few years. I think we need to reconsider what AFF should
> > stand for.

> > Today it stands for
> > Accelerated FreeFall

> > Accelerated meaning accelerated LEARNING, not that you fall faster than
> > someone learning via another method.

> > Now, that it takes ALL students, regardless of training method at least
> > 20 jumps to get off student status, accelerated learning no longer
> > applies.

> > How about??
> > Affluent

> > Affluent FreeFall

> > This could catch on. It would be a status symbol of the Ken & Barbie
> > group. It would be a great way for coaches, organizers & trainers etc to
> > find out who has deep pockets to pay for very expensive jumps.
> > Coach: "How did you go through student status?"
> > New Kid: "Oh, AFF"
> > Coach thinks - ka-ching$$$$

> > Any other suggestions???

> > --
> > Jan Meyer, D7833

> > RU a New Jumper?? - check out Study Guide for USPA License Exams
> > at http://www.MakeItHappen.com/products/uspaexam.html


> > http://www.MakeItHappen.com
> > http://www.DiveMaker.com

--
Jan Meyer, D7833

RU a New Jumper?? - check out Study Guide for USPA License Exams
at http://www.MakeItHappen.com/products/uspaexam.html


http://www.MakeItHappen.com
http://www.DiveMaker.com

 
 
 

AFF or AFF??

Post by Mr. M » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:06:52

Quote:
>So what exactly is the advantage of going the AFF route today???

What was ever the advantage of going AFF??

USPA SUCKS
 Blue Skys and Godspeed,
 Mr. MOM
http://www.moms-skyjumping.com/

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AFF or AFF??

Post by LORD OF THE SK » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:23:08


Quote:

> > I had always heard it referred to as:  Accelerated Financial Failure...

> Boy, did I goof!
> Here's the quote from my AFFCC course materials (1986)
> "This program is called 'Accelerated Freefall' because the learning
> process is three to five times faster than with the traditional static
> line progression program."

> Anyone care to quote a more recent AFFCC course materials?

> I 'forgot' it was 3 to 5X faster - sorry.

> so let me see...
> suppose S/L = 20 then AFF should be 4-7 jumps
> but it's 20 jumps...
> so that means S/L should take 60 to 100 jumps..
> but wait... someone can be a Coach at 100 jumps...
> I'm soooo confused ?????
> USPA please change the acronym because it's confusing.....
> or wait - a better thing ---
> make 'cleared to jumpmaster yourself' = 'off student status'

> So what exactly is the advantage of going the AFF route today???

    A heads up Jan,
          You are rapidly loosing credibility with the present BOD!
       Like they have any! LOFL!

            "Treetop" a.k.a LORD OF THE SKY

 
 
 

AFF or AFF??

Post by Alan Binnebos » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 05:56:07

Geez, do you think it is possible the BOD opened up Pandora's box here?
Maybe they didn't really think this through!!!

--
Blue Skies,
Alan Binnebose



Quote:




> > > I had always heard it referred to as:  Accelerated Financial
Failure...

> > Boy, did I goof!
> > Here's the quote from my AFFCC course materials (1986)
> > "This program is called 'Accelerated Freefall' because the learning
> > process is three to five times faster than with the traditional static
> > line progression program."

> > Anyone care to quote a more recent AFFCC course materials?

> > I 'forgot' it was 3 to 5X faster - sorry.

> > so let me see...
> > suppose S/L = 20 then AFF should be 4-7 jumps
> > but it's 20 jumps...
> > so that means S/L should take 60 to 100 jumps..
> > but wait... someone can be a Coach at 100 jumps...
> > I'm soooo confused ?????
> > USPA please change the acronym because it's confusing.....
> > or wait - a better thing ---
> > make 'cleared to jumpmaster yourself' = 'off student status'

> > So what exactly is the advantage of going the AFF route today???

>     A heads up Jan,
>           You are rapidly loosing credibility with the present BOD!
>        Like they have any! LOFL!

>             "Treetop" a.k.a LORD OF THE SKY