Gettin' old fast.

Gettin' old fast.

Post by oconn.. » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00


   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
older.  So of course I wanted to share it.  It also makes me
wonder what an equivalent list for skydiving would be.
Ya know, some sort of "today's AFF/JM candidate..."  I start
a list at the end.

Just in case you weren't feeling too old today, this will certainly
change things. Each year the staff at Beloit College in Wisconsin
puts together a list to try to give the faculty a sense of the
mind set of that years incoming freshmen.

 Here is this year's list:

 The people who are starting college this fall across the nation
were born in 1982. They have no meaningful recollection of the
Reagan Era and probably did not know he had ever been shot.

They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged.

Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.

There has been only one Pope.

They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not
remember the Cold War.

They have never feared a nuclear war.

They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up.

Tianamen Square means nothing to them.

Their lifetime has always included AIDS.

Bottle caps have always been***off and plastic.

Atari predates them, as do vinyl albums. The expression
'you sound like a broken record' means nothing to them.

They have never owned a record player.

They have likely never played Pac Man and have never heard of Ping-Pong.

 They may have never heard of an 8 track. The Compact Disc was
introduced when they were 1 year old.

As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 33 cents.

They have always had an answering machine.

Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels, nor have they seen
a black-and-white TV.  They have always had cable. There has always
been VCRs, but they have no idea what BETA is.

 They cannot fathom not having a remote control.

 They were born the year that Walkman were introduced by Sony.

 Roller-skating has always meant in-line for them.

 Jay Leno has always been on the Tonight Show.

 They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.

 Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.

 They have never seen Larry Bird play.

 They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.

 The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as W.W.I, W.W.II
and the Civil War.

 They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.

 They can't imagine what hard contact lenses are.

 They don't know who Mork was or where he was from.

 They never heard: "Where's the beef?" or "I'd walk a mile for a Camel"

 They do not care who shot J. R.  and have no idea who J. R.  is.

 The Titanic was found? They thought we always knew where it was.

 Michael Jackson has always been white.

 Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places, not groups.

 McDonald's burgers never came in Styrofoam containers.

 There has always been MTV.

 They don't have a clue how to use a typewriter.

Today's AFF/JM candidate....

Hear's PC and thinks pilot chute
Hears "church window"  and thinks of churches.
Thinks static line is something the military does.
Doesn't know the hand signal for student in tow.
Has made all their jumps with a hard helmet.
130 square feet is a "big docile canopy".
Can't remember what PLF stands for and has to be retaught.
Lands in the peas by accident.
Hopes to get a chance to jump a DC-3 some day.
Has more "jet jumps" than twin Beach jumps.
Thinks 2 grand is "hummin' it down".
Thinks oil leaking from an engine is a bad thing.
Never heard of the Air Bears, Tommy, or Mirror
Image and thinks the Knights have always ruled 8-way.
Never jumped at Muskogee.
Can't get a Freak number because he can't find
enough brothers (or sisters).
Thinks a Cloud is something you don't jump through.
5 cells is about half a canopy.
Would never cut a hole in a canopy and can't
imagine why anyone would.
Never had their girl friend stand tension.

                              Kevin O'Connell

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Post by Mar » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
>older.  So of course I wanted to share it.  It also makes me
>wonder what an equivalent list for skydiving would be.
>Ya know, some sort of "today's AFF/JM candidate..."  I start
>a list at the end.

[snip the Beloit College list]

Quote:
>Today's AFF/JM candidate....

Well, I'm not a "candidate."  I've had my AFF rating for a few years now, but I
still want to play.

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>Hear's PC and thinks pilot chute

Nah.  I was in the air with a PC this past Saturday.  I know a couple of people
who still jump 'em.  This particular one was manufactured in 1973 (I was
manufactured in 1970, delivered in 1971).

Quote:
>Hears "church window"  and thinks of churches.

I know what a "church window" is.

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>Thinks static line is something the military does.

Static line IS something the military does.  It's also something one of our
neighboring DZs does.

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>Doesn't know the hand signal for student in tow.

You got me here.  I have no clue what this signal is.

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>Has made all their jumps with a hard helmet.

Nope.  Started with a Pro-Tec.  Got a frap hat when I had about 100 jumps.
Stuck with the frap hat for a few years and 800 jumps or so.  Usually jump a
camera helmet or a BoneHead these days.  Gotta bunch of no-helmet jumps too.

Quote:
>130 square feet is a "big docile canopy".

Depends on wingloading.

Quote:
>Can't remember what PLF stands for and has to be retaught.

Nah, doesn't describe me.

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>Lands in the peas by accident.

Nah, doesn't describe me.

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>Hopes to get a chance to jump a DC-3 some day.

I've probably got about 10 or 12 DC-3 jumps.

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>Has more "jet jumps" than twin Beach jumps.

Nope.  I've got one jet jump and quite a number of Twin Beech jumps.

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>Thinks 2 grand is "hummin' it down".

It depends.

My 105 generally takes 800-1000 feet to open, and that rig has a CYPRES that I
don't want to tempt, so yeah, two grand IS "hummin' it down."

My 120 generally takes about 500 feet to open.  This rig also has a CYPRES I
don't want to tempt, but it's a pretty consistent-opening canopy, and I feel
comfortable deploying it at two grand, (although I prefer to deploy it by
2500').

My 155 opens pretty quickly, and there's no AAD to cause a two-canopy-out
situation, so I'd take it to two grand without reservation.  I'd certainly pull
shortly after two grand, however.  I'm pretty conservative for the most part,
and consider altitude to be my friend.

Quote:
>Thinks oil leaking from an engine is a bad thing.

Depends on the engine.  See the above-mentioned DC-3 and Twin Beech.

Quote:
>Never heard of the Air Bears, Tommy, or Mirror
>Image

I've heard of all of the above.

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>and thinks the Knights have always ruled 8-way.

Not "always" but for a good long time, yeah.

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>Never jumped at Muskogee.

True, you got me there.

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>Can't get a Freak number because he can't find
>enough brothers (or sisters).

Depends on where you jump.  I could have gotten my Freak number when I was
jumping at SDC.  I never got around to it, but it wasn't for lack of brothers
(or sisters).

Quote:
>Thinks a Cloud is something you don't jump through.

Damn straight!  A Cloud IS something I don't jump through!  Are you saying that
you DO "jump through" Clouds?  That's pretty risky for both you and the pilot
of the Cloud.  I urge you to quit at once.   ;-)

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>5 cells is about half a canopy.

Unless it's a DC-5 or similar.

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>Would never cut a hole in a canopy and can't imagine why anyone would.

Nah, I know exactly why someone would cut a hole in a canopy.

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>Never had their girl friend stand tension.

True, but I do know what "stand tension" means.  A lot of people don't.  

Blue Skies,

Marc

               "The one who dies with the most jumps is dead."



 
 
 

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Post by Chri » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Hey Kevin

Very Funny

Chris Chrzan


 
 
 

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Post by oconn.. » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00



Quote:

> >   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
> >older.  So of course I wanted to share it.  It also makes me
> >wonder what an equivalent list for skydiving would be.
> >Ya know, some sort of "today's AFF/JM candidate..."  I start
> >a list at the end.

> [snip the Beloit College list]

> >Today's AFF/JM candidate....

> Well, I'm not a "candidate."  I've had my AFF rating for a few years
now, but I
> still want to play.

   Tough, the whole point is about how fast times change.
"...for a few years"  negates the whole effect.

[snip]

Quote:
> >Never jumped at Muskogee.

> True, you got me there.

    Do you know why many of us did?

[snip]

Quote:

> >Thinks a Cloud is something you don't jump through.

> Damn straight!  A Cloud IS something I don't jump through!  Are you
saying that
> you DO "jump through" Clouds?  That's pretty risky for both you and
the pilot
> of the Cloud.  I urge you to quit at once.   ;-)

     A Strato Cloud (commonly just called a Cloud) was one of
the first really nice squares that didn't hurt ya too bad.
Everyone wanted one at the time.

[snip]

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Post by Winsor Naugler II » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

<snip
Quote:

> Today's AFF/JM candidate....

 <snip>

Thinks "safety meetings" have something to do with safety

 
 
 

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Post by Mark W. Alle » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

I don't know, I always felt safe there.

Mark



Quote:

> <snip

> > Today's AFF/JM candidate....

>  <snip>

> Thinks "safety meetings" have something to do with safety

 
 
 

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Post by Martin Evan » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> >   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
> >older.  So of course I wanted to share it.  It also makes me
> >wonder what an equivalent list for skydiving would be.
> >Ya know, some sort of "today's AFF/JM candidate..."  I start
> >a list at the end.
> Nah, doesn't describe me.

> Nah, doesn't describe me.

> Marc

Need a hand to get that barb out from under your skin Marc!

;-)

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Post by Stephe » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Has anyone given a thought to WFFC moving there?  Don't know if
it's a possibility now, but after the tales of past Nats, it sounds like
a cool, central site.

Just a thought,
Steve F.


Quote:
>[snip]
>> >Never jumped at Muskogee.

>> True, you got me there.

>    Do you know why many of us did?

>[snip]

 
 
 

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Post by Mar » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



>> >Today's AFF/JM candidate....

>> Well, I'm not a "candidate."  I've had my AFF rating for a few years
>now, but I
>> still want to play.

>   Tough, the whole point is about how fast times change.
>"...for a few years"  negates the whole effect.

Well drat.

Quote:
>[snip]
>> >Never jumped at Muskogee.

>> True, you got me there.

>    Do you know why many of us did?

Nationals.

Quote:
>[snip]

>> >Thinks a Cloud is something you don't jump through.

>> Damn straight!  A Cloud IS something I don't jump through!  Are you
>saying that
>> you DO "jump through" Clouds?  That's pretty risky for both you and
>the pilot
>> of the Cloud.  I urge you to quit at once.   ;-)

>     A Strato Cloud (commonly just called a Cloud) was one of
>the first really nice squares that didn't hurt ya too bad.

Right, but you didn't "jump through" them did you?  Jumping "though" a Cloud
WOULD HURT!  

Quote:
>Everyone wanted one at the time.

I_know_what a Strato Cloud is, did ya miss my humor?

I've studied my history.  Pop quiz me all ya want.  I like a challenge.   ;-)

Blue Skies,

Marc

               "The one who dies with the most jumps is dead."


 
 
 

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Post by RAM » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00


Quote:



> > >   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
> > >older.  > [snip]
> > >Never jumped at Muskogee.

Made my first helicopter jump there out of one of the UH-1s the Army
supplied for the nationals.  They let us "fun" jump out of them till the
nationals started.  What a blast!!!
 
 
 

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Post by uncle Bruc » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Quote:


> <snip

> > Today's AFF/JM candidate....

>  <snip>

> Thinks "safety meetings" have something to do with safety

But...but...but...you mean they DON'T?  Why, everytime we, er, those people came out of the van and we, er,
they were so relaxed specifically because our, er, their skydiving anxieties were diminished by thorough
discussions regarding recognition of potentially dangerous situations and the possible solutions.  The 'ol
knowledge is power pep talk and all, you know.  Hahahahahahahahahaha.  Hey, pass the chocolate chips cookies,
will ya?

uncle Bruce

 
 
 

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Post by Paul W. Gib » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>They have never owned a record player.

And if you told them "You sound like a broken record", they wouldn't have the
foggiest idea what you mean!
Blues!

-Paul
I'll quit jumping out of airplanes as soon as somebody decides to make a
perfectly good one.

 
 
 

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Post by RAM » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Oooops, the UH-1s were at Tallequa, Ok, not far from Muskogee.

Damn, I guess the memory is the first thing to go.

RAM


Quote:






> > > >   This list comes out every year and it always makes me feel
> > > >older.  > [snip]

> > > >Never jumped at Muskogee.

> Made my first helicopter jump there out of one of the UH-1s the Army
> supplied for the nationals.  They let us "fun" jump out of them till the
> nationals started.  What a blast!!!

 
 
 

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Post by CRWMik » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Oooops, the UH-1s were at Tallequa, Ok, not far from Muskogee.

> Damn, I guess the memory is the first thing to go.

> RAM

It's the second thing to go.
 
 
 

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Post by Pete » Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:00:00

Kevin wrote ...

Quote:
> Today's AFF/JM candidate....

> Hear's PC and thinks pilot chute
I know that one.
> Hears "church window"  and thinks of churches.

No idea on that one.
Quote:
> Thinks static line is something the military does.

Got one jump like that (civvie)
Quote:
> Doesn't know the hand signal for student in tow.
Beats me.
> Has made all their jumps with a hard helmet.
> 130 square feet is a "big docile canopy".
Not any more!
> Has more "jet jumps" than twin Beach jumps.
Almost...
> Never heard of the Air Bears,
Yes.
>Tommy

Piras? or something else?
Quote:
>or Mirror Image
Beats me too.
> and thinks the Knights have always ruled 8-way.
God, I hope not.
> Never jumped at Muskogee.

No, but I know the significance.
Quote:
> Can't get a Freak number because he can't find
> enough brothers (or sisters).
So what.
> Thinks a Cloud is something you don't jump through.

No, we use one for water training
Quote:
> Never had their girl friend stand tension.

No, she does the whole pack job.

OK, so there are a few I don't know, but then I've only been jumping 10
years.

Peter