Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by tomba.. » Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:02:53


I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced Friday
folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of the
two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

Thanks

Tom

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by SMS » Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:51:36

Quote:

> I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
> trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
> folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced Friday
> folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of the
> two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
> would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

Both companies have a wide range of models. Which Dahon were you looking at?

For example, for touring, the Dahon Speed TR at around $1040, is
comparable to the Bike Friday NW Tourist DD at $1780.

The Bike Friday is made in the U.S., the Dahon is made in China, which
accounts for a lot of the difference in cost.

Also look at the Novara Buzz FlyBy from REI,
"http://www.rei.com/product/763242" which is made by Dahon. Remember you
get a 10% dividend at REI.

If you buy a Dahon, check out "http://gaerlan.com" as he does some good
custom modifications to Dahon models.

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Tom Sherma » Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:51:18


Quote:

>> I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
>> trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
>> folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced Friday
>> folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of the
>> two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
>> would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

> Both companies have a wide range of models. Which Dahon were you looking
> at?

> For example, for touring, the Dahon Speed TR at around $1040, is
> comparable to the Bike Friday NW Tourist DD at $1780.

> The Bike Friday is made in the U.S., the Dahon is made in China, which
> accounts for a lot of the difference in cost.[...]

Is there a good resource for determining the country of origin of
bicycles? I prefer to buy products made in democratic states with decent
wages (e.g. Japan, CE, US, Canada, Taiwan), even if the price is
substantially higher.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by cmcanult » Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:28:41

Look at the Downtube folders, best bike for the price also go to the
folding forum on bikeforums.net
 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by SMS » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:03:49

Quote:

> Is there a good resource for determining the country of origin of
> bicycles? I prefer to buy products made in democratic states with decent
> wages (e.g. Japan, CE, US, Canada, Taiwan), even if the price is
> substantially higher.

The companies selling non made-in-China bicycles tend to boast about it,
but I don't think there's any source that shows the origin.

Of course China has become just as capitalistic as any of those other
countries, while the U.S., during the past eight years, has become more
and more un-democratic.

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Mike Jacoubowsk » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:11:12


Quote:
>I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
> trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
> folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced Friday
> folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of the
> two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
> would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

> Thanks

> Tom

Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently, I can tell you
that they're very different animals. The Dahons just never quite seemed
like a finished product. Little things that wouldn't cost much to take
care of but never were, giving one the idea that they were more
concerned with saving a few pennies than quality. That said, the
difference in price is such that it would be crazy to think a Dahon
would be in the same league (in terms of quality) as a bike that costs
twice as much.

The ride is very different, with the Bike Friday feeling a lot more
stable laterally. For a smaller rider, this probably isn't a huge deal,
but it's quite noticable for bigger folk.

At 15 miles per day, I think you'd appreciate the differences. But the
best way to figure that out is to actually take them out and ride them.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Tom Sherma » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:06:36

Quote:



>> I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
>> trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
>> folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced Friday
>> folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of the
>> two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
>> would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

>> Thanks

>> Tom

> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently,

When did Green Gear start selling through LBS's again?

Quote:
> I can tell you
> that they're very different animals. The Dahons just never quite seemed
> like a finished product. Little things that wouldn't cost much to take
> care of but never were, giving one the idea that they were more
> concerned with saving a few pennies than quality. That said, the
> difference in price is such that it would be crazy to think a Dahon
> would be in the same league (in terms of quality) as a bike that costs
> twice as much.

> The ride is very different, with the Bike Friday feeling a lot more
> stable laterally. For a smaller rider, this probably isn't a huge deal,
> but it's quite noticable for bigger folk.

> At 15 miles per day, I think you'd appreciate the differences. But the
> best way to figure that out is to actually take them out and ride them.

Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do not
fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the Bromptom
or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Mike Jacoubowsk » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:31:40

Quote:
>> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently,

> When did Green Gear start selling through LBS's again?

Fairly recently. We came on board about two months ago, and have done
very well with them.

Quote:
> Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do
> not fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the
> Bromptom or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

Probably, be the higher-end Bike Fridays are meant to mimic, as much as
possible, the ride qualities of a full-sized bike. The Brompton and
Dahon clearly do not try to accomplish that.

--Mike--     Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Quote:



>>> I am thinking about buying a folding bike to ride mainly on bike
>>> trails or to take with me when I am on some trips. I saw a Dahon
>>> folding bike that I like for around $450, and the lowest priced
>>> Friday
>>> folding bike is around $850. Any opinions about the comparison of
>>> the
>>> two? I now ride around thrity miles per day on a regular bike, but I
>>> would probably ride the folding bike around 15 when I would ride it.

>>> Thanks

>>> Tom

>> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently,

> When did Green Gear start selling through LBS's again?

>> I can tell you that they're very different animals. The Dahons just
>> never quite seemed like a finished product. Little things that
>> wouldn't cost much to take care of but never were, giving one the
>> idea that they were more concerned with saving a few pennies than
>> quality. That said, the difference in price is such that it would be
>> crazy to think a Dahon would be in the same league (in terms of
>> quality) as a bike that costs twice as much.

>> The ride is very different, with the Bike Friday feeling a lot more
>> stable laterally. For a smaller rider, this probably isn't a huge
>> deal, but it's quite noticable for bigger folk.

>> At 15 miles per day, I think you'd appreciate the differences. But
>> the best way to figure that out is to actually take them out and ride
>> them.

> Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do
> not fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the
> Bromptom or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

> --
> Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
> LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by SMS » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:02:09

Quote:

> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently, I can tell you
> that they're very different animals. The Dahons just never quite seemed
> like a finished product. Little things that wouldn't cost much to take
> care of but never were, giving one the idea that they were more
> concerned with saving a few pennies than quality. That said, the
> difference in price is such that it would be crazy to think a Dahon
> would be in the same league (in terms of quality) as a bike that costs
> twice as much.

> The ride is very different, with the Bike Friday feeling a lot more
> stable laterally. For a smaller rider, this probably isn't a huge deal,
> but it's quite noticable for bigger folk.

> At 15 miles per day, I think you'd appreciate the differences. But the
> best way to figure that out is to actually take them out and ride them.

How long ago were you selling Dahon? The Dahon's of today are very very
different than the Dahon's of even just five years ago, and a world
apart from the first Dahons.

Alas, you can spend as much on some Dahon models these days as a Bike
Friday. Did you stop by Dahon's booth at Interbike? They had a
carbon-fiber model for $3000. They also had their full size model with
the Ritchey frame.

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by SMS » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:07:10

Quote:

>>> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently,
>> When did Green Gear start selling through LBS's again?

> Fairly recently. We came on board about two months ago, and have done
> very well with them.

>> Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do
>> not fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the
>> Bromptom or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

> Probably, be the higher-end Bike Fridays are meant to mimic, as much as
> possible, the ride qualities of a full-sized bike. The Brompton and
> Dahon clearly do not try to accomplish that.

This Dahon does, "http://www.dahon.com/us/tournado.htm".
 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by c » Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:02:36

Quote:


>>>> Having sold Dahon in the past, and Bike Friday presently,
>>> When did Green Gear start selling through LBS's again?

>> Fairly recently. We came on board about two months ago, and have done
>> very well with them.

>>> Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do
>>> not fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the
>>> Bromptom or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

>> Probably, be the higher-end Bike Fridays are meant to mimic, as much
>> as possible, the ride qualities of a full-sized bike. The Brompton and
>> Dahon clearly do not try to accomplish that.

> This Dahon does, "http://www.dahon.com/us/tournado.htm".

I tried to buy one of these Tournados in France, but here it is unknown.
Near the borders, I also tried in Spain and in the UK and some vendors
said me that is no more produced. What a pity!
 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Frank Krygowsk » Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:14:56

On Dec 30, 8:06?pm, Tom Sherman <

Quote:
> Reportedly, except for the Tikit, most of the Bike Friday models do not
> fold that quickly or compactly, compared to a bike such as the Bromptom
> or some of the Dahon models? Is this a fair assessment?

My wife and I have Bike Friday New World Tourists.  Yes, the folding
is slower and more finicky than most other folding bikes I've tested.

NWTs are available with dozens of options, since each is custom built,
so details vary.  But there are two "issues" that slightly irritate me
with folding our particular bikes:

First, the design intent is that the tall seatmast should fold forward
and slightly rightward, with the saddle clearing the headset.  Mine
doesn't go far enough right, so I just pull the seatpost out.

Second, unlike most folders, the tall stem & handlebars don't fold
with a hinge; instead, they pull out and get hung loosely from frame
tubes within the folded frame.  With Friday's "H" bars, this is
probably compact (although still loose and rattly).  But we have drop
bars, and it's sort of a tangle to get them in place.

Other more minor issues:  Our 3x9 drivetrains drop the chain during
the fold, but it re-mounts easily.  Our indexing takes a few miles to
settle down after unfolding, since the cables get bent pretty well.
And the rear fender always needs minor aligning after a fold.

All the above applies to the "quick fold," the two-minute version that
gets the bike into a car, etc.  Packing the bike in a suitcase is a
much longer disassembly process (maybe 20 - 30 minutes) and three
dimensional jigsaw puzzle.  But almost no other bikes can do that at
all, so I don't mind that so much.

- Frank Krygowski

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Artemisi » Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:27:05

Quote:

> Is there a good resource for determining the country of origin of
> bicycles? I prefer to buy products made in democratic states with decent
> wages (e.g. Japan, CE, US, Canada, Taiwan), even if the price is
> substantially higher.

I was under the impression that Dahons are made in Taiwan, not mainland
China. Surely that is the case for my P21?

EFR
Ile de France

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by Artemisi » Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:38:13

Quote:

> I tried to buy one of these Tournados in France, but here it is unknown.
> Near the borders, I also tried in Spain and in the UK and some vendors
> said me that is no more produced. What a pity!

Where in France? There is a Dahon dealer in Paris:
Bicycland
01 45 20 03 95
98 av de Versailles
Paris, 75016

The guy there is very pleasant and competent. He specializes in comfort,
"Dutch" style bikes and has recently opened a line in folders. He told
me he tried valiantly to get the Dahon franchise for France but it
wasn't possible. He might be able to order your bike for you even if he
doesn't have it in stock.

Also check Ebay for Dahons. I remember www.ebay.de (German) was a rich
source for new Dahons when I was looking at them, and had some
discontinued models.

Cheers and Bonne anne,
EFR
Ile de France

 
 
 

Dahon Folding Bike vs Friday Folding Bike

Post by landotte » Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:41:21


Quote:

> > Is there a good resource for determining the country of origin of
> > bicycles? I prefer to buy products made in democratic states with decent
> > wages (e.g. Japan, CE, US, Canada, Taiwan), even if the price is
> > substantially higher.

> I was under the impression that Dahons are made in Taiwan, not mainland
> China. Surely that is the case for my P21?

"We are headquartered in Los Angeles, California and our bicycles are
assembled in our factories in Taiwan, Macau, the Czech Republic and
China with parts sourced from the leading component manufacturers from
around the world."