> > > > > Why are you being so judgmental about my lament?
> > > > Because your lament is of the "incompetence" that is nothing more than
> > > > choices you would not make yourself.
> > > The choices I make are based fundamentally on obedience to traffic
> > > laws, with some extra bike-specific competence added (i.e. riding
> > > skills, attention to road hazards, etc.).
> > > OTOH, you've made it clear that you disobey laws by riding at night
> > > without lights, riding drunk, riding facing traffic, and riding so
> > > chaotically that it startles motorists, and that you even take
> > > pleasure in startling motorists. ?You've also mentioned the crashes
> > > that have resulted from your riding style. ?So it's not just my whims
> > > vs. yours; your choices fail by comparison against a recognized
> > > external standard.
> > The "royal we"?
> > > > I reflect on who and what I am extensively - and deeply; and it is
> > > > very different form what I perceive of you (but ?at the same time, the
> > > > same - I have said many time that much of what you say makes sense,
> > > > and I feel a certain brotherhood).
> > > > Your pronouncements of incompetence do not cut me, for I am
> > > > comfortably aware of my competenty and it's limitations,...
> > > As I've said before: ?every wrong-way rider, or unlit night cyclist,
> > > or red light runner thinks _they_ are competent, and _they_ know it's
> > > best to ride as they do.
> > You presume to know what *every* one of them thinks?
> > > Yet those riders are heavily overrepresented
> > > in crash data.
> > Naturally. ?So what? ?(You seem to assume that avoiding crashes is the
> > end all, be all of competency.)
> > > Where's the external standard...
> Hmm... I'm sure there must be many (the nice thing about
> "standards" :-). ?Let me work on that for you when I have the time and
> possibly the inclination...
> > ... that proves you're not really just
> > > another drunk, lightless, wrong-way, red-light-running person on a
> > > bike?
> > Who ever said I wasn't another of those?
> This is where the "judgmental" comes in. ?I never said I wasn't
> another of those; In fact I've said that's exactly what I am
> (variously, at times, and only very occasionally all at once). ?The
> reason I say that you're judgmental is that you regard "another of
> those" as "just another of those", ascribing faulty thinking,
> reasoning, character, and ability - when in fact the difference may
> simply be one of values. ?I do not lack intelligence, skill, or
> consideration for others, but that is what you conclude, and that is
> faulty logic.
> > ?And yet, I am not
> > represented _at all_ in the data that you seem to consider the
> > ultimate criteria of competency.
> And yet, your cracked logic "proves" the correlation in your own mind;
> and your (feeble) mind extends this distortion to the "royal
> we" (which is also in your head).
You're blathering, Dan, and wasting time following up your own posts.
Let's summarize, OK? You mock me for riding according to the rules of
the road and for trying to be competent and predictable in traffic.
You praise your "anything goes" riding style, and have bragged about
riding in lots of ways I think are crazy.
Yet you've also talked about your crashes, and about the motorists
you've startled, and the ones you've angered to the point of outright
My on-road riding experience is almost totally absent of crashes.
(One 3 mph fall on a super steep, gravel-covered downhill in the
1990s, one fork that suddenly broke on our tandem about five years
ago.) That's since 1972. I get along well with almost all motorists,
I enjoy riding in a wide variety of environments for a wide variety of
purposes - commuting, shopping, recreation rides, club rides, touring
and off-road - and I've ridden in most states of the union plus about
a dozen foreign countries.
Despite your claims to be absolutely unique, your crash experience
matches the general trend: those who make up their own rules or
violate traffic laws at whim crash more frequently, no matter how
smart they think they're being at the moment. OTOH, I don't claim to
be unique. I know that people who ride my way have only very rare
crashes, far fewer per mile than the average. I'm just another
You seem to want my approval for your riding style. Give up - it's
not going to happen. Hell, you shouldn't even be trying. A spitball-
throwing kid shouldn't expect approval from a teacher, a tatooed
slacker street beggar shouldn't expect approval from a hard-working
taxpayer, and a no-rules POB shouldn't expect approval from a
competent vehicular cyclist.
- Frank Krygowski