Survey: Do people still want Thumbshifters?

Survey: Do people still want Thumbshifters?

Post by bK h » Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible American-Made
CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and want to
see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into a
world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are still
riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?

Thanks for your input,

bryan heu
bK heu designs, Inc.
608.256.7455

 
 
 

Survey: Do people still want Thumbshifters?

Post by Roan Hur » Mon, 01 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible American-Made
> CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and want to
> see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into a
> world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are still
> riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
> sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?

Judging from the responses the last time this subject came up, I'd say
there are quite a lot of us who would welcome a good topmount unit. I kmow
it's a matter of preference (like most things -duh!) but I've tried
most kinds of grip shift - and find them all unsatisfying to use. I just
prefer the feel and handling of good thumbies like the old dx and the xt.
Rapid fire works beautifully but too much plastic -they don't look good....

Cheers,

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Post by Tim Jon » Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible American-Made
CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and want to
see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into a
world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are still
riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?

Top Mounts don't break like rapidfires do.
They can be used well in the winter when your cables get iced up.
I know riders around here who swear by them.  But take this into consideration
when you make them.  Retro-grouches don't like funky anodizing.  Black and
plain-ol' aluminum please.

Tim Jones

 
 
 

Survey: Do people still want Thumbshifters?

Post by Dennis Ordiwa » Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible
> American-Made
> CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and
> want to
> see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into
> a
> world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are
> still
> riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
> sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?
> bryan heu
> bK heu designs, Inc.
> 608.256.7455

bk,

It depends on price.  If it is a relatively low cost alternative,
it could be cool.  You could make a line of high-tech but retro
components.  Big old three finger brake levers with the big knob on
the end, high rise bars (oops, those are back), skewers with big
*** boots, bottom bracket brakes, biopace gearing...hmm dont go
too far, though.

Dennis Ordiway
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Survey: Do people still want Thumbshifters?

Post by MC 900ft. B » Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:00:00

: Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible American-Made
: CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and want to
: see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into a
: world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are still
: riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
: sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?

As much as I love thumbshifters and hate RapidFires (I rode good old
Sundtour XC Pro thumb shifters right up until two years ago when I got
my Spec M2 with Grip Shifters, which I also love!), I think you'd have
to do something "trick" and new to the thumbshifter design in order
for it to survive in the market today. Thumb shifters have come and
gone, and though they had great sucess for many years, people are
looking for "the next thing" so I don't know how sucessful they'd
be...

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Post by Char Ta » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>> Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible
>> American-Made
>> CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and
>> want to
>> see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into
>> a
>> world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are
>> still
>> riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
>> sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?
>> bryan heu
>> bK heu designs, Inc.
>> 608.256.7455
>bk,

>It depends on price.  If it is a relatively low cost alternative,
>it could be cool.

        If the CNCed thumbshifters were to cost around $50-$75,  I would
definitely go for them.  They would have a better chance if they were cheaper than
the Rapidfire Plus Pods or the Grishift X-Rays.
 
 
 

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Post by Timothy J. L » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00

|>                                            but I feel that there are still
|> riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
|> sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?
|
|Judging from the responses the last time this subject came up, I'd say
|there are quite a lot of us who would welcome a good topmount unit.

But would those who would buy a thumb shifter be more interested in
good one at the Deore LX / STX RC / SRT600 price range, or a "CNC
masterpiece" at an XTR price?

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Post by ER » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>But would those who would buy a thumb shifter be more interested in
>good one at the Deore LX / STX RC / SRT600 price range, or a "CNC
>masterpiece" at an XTR price?

A good one in the LX/SRT600 price range, if it works.  I wouldn't even
consider a CNC masterpiece in the XTR price range.

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Post by Vincent Che » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00

: Hi, I'm just doing a little market research on a possible American-Made
: CNC Topmount thumbshifter. I already have a prototype design and want to
: see if there is a market for this product. I know we've entered into a
: world of high-tech Shimano/GS/Sachs, etc., but I feel that there are still
: riders out there that swear by the topmount and would love to have a
: sweet, USA-made, CNC masterpiece. Let me know what you think?

Everyone who reads Gearhead would know that I love my top mounts, but I
might not jump on these shifters just yet...
1)They are USA made, meaning, expensive
2)CNC'ed, meaning expensive
3)CNC, not forged.  Less strength.  Easier to wear?
4)How do they actually work.  To get buyers interested, they must at least
work as good as the old DX
5)Are they as bomb-proof as the old ones?  That's one of the main reasons
that most people are still using them.

Vince

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Post by Robin * Slomkows » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


I bought a bike with X-Ray Grip shift, which I like more than
RapidFire, and within two weeks I bought XC-expert Thumbshifters for
$30.  I would be willing to pay more for nice thumbies.  I turned down
the DXs because when I have had them before I bent the mounts out of
existance, but my old XTs were pretty damn bombproof, probably would
have payed up to $75 for them.  

Several of my friends who are bicycle illiteriate want three speed or
thumbshifters and don't like either rapid fire or grip shift and are
willing to pay ~$40 for it on a 600-800 bike.

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Post by MC 900ft. B » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>But would those who would buy a thumb shifter be more interested in
>good one at the Deore LX / STX RC / SRT600 price range, or a "CNC
>masterpiece" at an XTR price?

Ah, but shouldn't the real trick be producing that CNC Masterpiece at
the LX price range???

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Post by Pasig » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00

I recently had the pleasure to ride a mint condition
1983 Stumpjumper. Wow! It weighed over 30 lbs,
had upright bars with the "V" style stem, Suntour
LeTech front der., Suntour brakes, Shimano something
or other rear der., and a gusseted cro-mo frame.

The wheelbase was much longer than what's hot
now, and the geometry was more relaxed, esp. the
banana-style front fork with a huge bend in it.
The bike was awesome down hill, as expected, but
ascents were laborious, and with only 5 cogs in back,
I just couldn't find the right gear! It had machined
aluminum thumbshifters, which were slow but smooth.
The brake levers were similar to a trail bike, with
round knobs at the ends, and very long to boot.

It was the kind of bike we'd call a cruiser now. Very
comfortable and plush, not nimble. I was glad to
have the chance to ride it for a week and it made
me appreciate my own bike that much more. I wonder
if there's a market for early "classic" MTB's. Another
friend has a Ritchey frameset from 1985 that's probably
worth something...

Does anyone else here have experience with old MTB's
at least 10 years old? Let me know
Peter

 
 
 

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Post by Stephen Ferguso » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Does anyone else here have experience with old MTB's
>at least 10 years old? Let me know
>Peter

My sister bought her Ritchey in 1985.  I was 17 at the time and a true-
blue roadie.  The Ritchey had the relaxed geometry you talk about, motor-
cycle levers, Suntour thumbies, bullhorn bars and a chainstay mounted
Rollercam brake.  It was a revelation.  I had never had as much fun on a
bike as I did on her Ritchey.  Of course, with the horizontal top-tube,
it was nowhere near the right size for her, as she is about 5'3 and would
be much better served by one of today's framesets, but it was a perfect
bike for me with the seat way up.  She still uses it for commuting, but
I've kept all the original bits (she upgraded to SIS) in case she ever
decides to return it to its full glory.  The other funny thing is the
price.  She paid about $1300 for it back then, when her VW GTI cost $13,000.
Last I checked, the GTI is about $23000, and my last Stumpjumper FS was
$1200.  Some things do get better.

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