TI Touring bike framebuilder?

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by robert tayl » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Can anyone suggest an experienced framebuilder who can make me a
titanium TOURING frame.  I don't want a racing frame with eyelets
grafted onto the dropouts but rather a real touring frame with 18"
chainstays, no toeclip overlap, front lowrider bosses, cantilever brake
posts, etc.  I also need to have the frame built with S&S torque
couplers.

Thanks,
 Bob Taylor

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Alan » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Steel is still the idea material for a loaded touring. To make a Ti frame
less flexy, it would weigh about the same as steel. However, a big plus to
Ti is that it won't rust, and would be less likely to crack as Al would.
I completed an 1800 mile trip this summer on an $89 Nashbar Al cruiser
frame. I own a custom Stan Johnson touring frame but I prefered the ride of
the cheap stiff Al frame. It feels more effeceint.
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TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Philcycl » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

S&S couplers do exist in TI. And prototypes exist in AL.
Phil Brown

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Tulli » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> If you would settle for a more traditional touring frame made from steel
> you can still buy touring frames from Mersian and Bob Jackson. Both are
> so good that just thinking about them brings my heart rate up.

> 2) There is no way of connecting the S&S couplers to a titanium frame.
> And there is nothing in the world wrong with steel frames for touring.

I would also include Waterford.  Their frames are excellent, and they
also offer S&S couplers.

Todd Kuzma
Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery
LaSalle, IL

Raleigh-Specialized-Bianchi        
Waterford-Torelli-GT/Dyno
Burley-Co-Motion

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Nelson La » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Tom Kellegg at Spectrum Cycles


Can anyone suggest an experienced framebuilder who can make me a
titanium TOURING frame.  I don't want a racing frame with eyelets
grafted onto the dropouts but rather a real touring frame with 18"
chainstays, no toeclip overlap, front lowrider bosses, cantilever brake
posts, etc.  I also need to have the frame built with S&S torque
couplers.

Thanks,
Bob Taylor

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Bruce Frec » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Steel is still the idea material for a loaded touring. To make a Ti frame
> less flexy, it would weigh about the same as steel.

No.

Stiffness varies with shape, and Ti has half the density and half the
stiffness.  So you could use larger diameter tubes, say twice the
diameter.  The Ti tube would have the same weight and twice the
stiffness.  (factor of 4 = 2^2 for the size, and factor of 1/2 for the
change in material).

-Bruce Frech

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Mark Atanowi » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Can anyone suggest an experienced framebuilder who can make me a
> titanium TOURING frame.  I don't want a racing frame with eyelets
> grafted onto the dropouts but rather a real touring frame with 18"
> chainstays, no toeclip overlap, front lowrider bosses, cantilever brake
> posts, etc.  I also need to have the frame built with S&S torque
> couplers.

One of the guys here at work has a custom Merlin XL touring frame.
Classic touring geometry and every "braze-on" imaginable.  Mucho $$$$.
Does S&S even make Ti compatible couplers?

Mark Atanowicz

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Eric Soro » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>Can anyone suggest an experienced framebuilder who can make me a
>titanium TOURING frame.

TiCycles in Seattle does custom Ti frames.
www.ticycles.com

I've only seen racing frames from them, but that my just be because I hang
out with the racing crowd.  I'm not sure if they do touring frames, but
they do really nice titandems.  

eric

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TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Tom Kunic » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> S&S couplers do exist in TI. And prototypes exist in AL.

Whoah, great. It's still an awful lot of overkill.
 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Brevetat » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Yes ti S&S couplings do exist and Bill Davidson os very experinced in using
them. He also has been building very high quality touring, racing, mountain,

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Steve Freide » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00

The folks at Bilenky Cycle Works build excellent touring bikes, and
specialize in S&S couplers - I think they claim to be the first maker to
use them.  They don't do anything but steel, but they do absolutely
beautiful work and I've chosen them to build a new bike for me.

http://www.bilenky.com

-S-

Quote:

> Can anyone suggest an experienced framebuilder who can make me a
> titanium TOURING frame.  I don't want a racing frame with eyelets
> grafted onto the dropouts but rather a real touring frame with 18"
> chainstays, no toeclip overlap, front lowrider bosses, cantilever brake
> posts, etc.  I also need to have the frame built with S&S torque
> couplers.

> Thanks,
>  Bob Taylor

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TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Alex Wetmor » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>2) There is no way of connecting the S&S couplers to a titanium frame.
>And there is nothing in the world wrong with steel frames for touring.

S&S makes titanium S&S couplers for Ti bikes.  http://www.sandsmachine.com
has more information.

I agree that steel is fine for touring, and I don't understand why you'd
want a Ti touring frame besides wanting to spend more money then is
necessary.  I'd rather spend it on flying to places to tour.

alex

 
 
 

TI Touring bike framebuilder?

Post by Brevetat » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Seattle is also the home Of Davidson handbuilt Cycles. Their site is at
Davidson Bicycles.com
 Bill has been building bikes for 25 years, and Ti bikes for three. I have seen
three s&s ti bikes go out in the last four months, two of them touring. Both of
them had the full complement of braze(weld)-ons.
  The ti-welder there is one of the original welders at moots, and he is an
artist.
  Good shopping,
  Eamon Stanley