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Post by charlie morr » Fri, 09 Dec 1994 16:53:47


This news group fills up with many articles on issues of repair.  I would like
to see a group dedicated to the physics of cycling.  Is there enough support
in this group to support such a split?

charlie morris
senior mechanical engineer

 
 
 

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Post by Jobst Bran » Sat, 10 Dec 1994 06:56:38

Quote:
Charlie Morris writes:
> This news group fills up with many articles on issues of repair.  
> I would like to see a group dedicated to the physics of cycling.  
> Is there enough support in this group to support such a split?

What do you understand under "the physics of cycling"?  The racing
group discusses physiology at length although most of it is, as here,
rumor, like "Why do I shave?"  Here, there is much conjecture about
the advantages of steel, aluminum, and titanium, also with heavy rumor
content.  If you want a moderated group, who is to moderate it?

Quote:
> senior mechanical engineer

Oh, how nice.  I'm happy for you Chas.

That is what you wanted to hear wasn't it... or should we be awed at
just the thought of it?



 
 
 

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Post by Jim Papadopoulo » Sat, 10 Dec 1994 12:08:13

Quote:

>This news group fills up with many articles on issues of repair.  I would like
>to see a group dedicated to the physics of cycling.  Is there enough support
>in this group to support such a split?

Count me in! And, I think you should count my vote
double, 'coz I post so much!

JP

 
 
 

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Post by charlie morr » Sun, 11 Dec 1994 01:41:20

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>Charlie Morris writes:
>> This news group fills up with many articles on issues of repair.  
>> I would like to see a group dedicated to the physics of cycling.  
>> Is there enough support in this group to support such a split?
>What do you understand under "the physics of cycling"?  The racing
>group discusses physiology at length although most of it is, as here,
>rumor, like "Why do I shave?"  Here, there is much conjecture about
>the advantages of steel, aluminum, and titanium, also with heavy rumor
>content.  If you want a moderated group, who is to moderate it?
>> senior mechanical engineer
>Oh, how nice.  I'm happy for you Chas.
>That is what you wanted to hear wasn't it... or should we be awed at
>just the thought of it?

Its hard to hold a constructive conversation when someone lashes out like
this.   Let me answer your question.   No I don't want you to be happy for me
Jobst.  This is my job title and the way that I sign in the engineering
forums.  Am I a bicycle engineer?  No, I am not.  I'm a mechanical engineer
that likes to ride bikes and for some reason I find great joy in the
mechanics.  I only wanted to propose the possibility of a group more focused
on the issues of design.  I see nothing offensive about my statement and will
not change my signature for you, and thanks for being happy for me.  I hope
things are going well for you also.

charlie morris
senior mechanical engineer
Maxtor

 
 
 

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Post by andrew coo » Tue, 13 Dec 1994 01:45:22

        i'd argue for the current set-up for several reasons:

        1 - it works.  discussions on these subjects do appear here,
        and that is what the group was intended for.  you might try
        using a threaded news reader, and using kill files liberally.

        2 - what would you do?  there was a long discussion on tyre
        shapes under load a while back.  it consisted of jim p
        patiently explaining things again + again + jobst being grouchy.
        eventually a few people posted measurements, but it became clear
        (at least to me!) that to go further required a fair amount of
        work.  people have already thought hard about these things.  i
        have stuff i want to do, but getting the time to do it is not
        easy.

        3 - the good thing about the net has to be that people with very
        different experiences pool ideas.  that is why anything takes so damn
        long - because every detail is new to someone.  making something
        more exclusive (a mailing list, for example) loses the new ideas.

        4 - if you have an idea, or something to discuss, post.

        andrew

        (staying in santiago with a friend, bike somewhere on a boat
        in the atlantic or pacific, little access to a computer, but still
        thinking about tyre profiles in the shower...)