Does anyone use GPS unit instead of hauling maps?

Does anyone use GPS unit instead of hauling maps?

Post by Gary » Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:07:06


I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

-Gary

 
 
 

Does anyone use GPS unit instead of hauling maps?

Post by hbak.. » Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:38:01

Garmin GPSV with bike mount.  Does turn-by-turn routing.  Don't
know about Italy, but works fine in France.
Quote:

>I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

>Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

>-Gary


 
 
 

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Post by john63.. » Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:49:50

Quote:
>Garmin GPSV with bike mount.  Does turn-by-turn routing.  Don't
>know about Italy, but works fine in France.

That "V" model must be pretty handy huh?

Ive seen that unit mentioned for car use as well as
hiking and now for biking too.

Is the V model and all around good choice for a variety
if uses?

 
 
 

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Post by Pete » Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:18:40

Quote:

>>Garmin GPSV with bike mount.  Does turn-by-turn routing.  Don't
>>know about Italy, but works fine in France.

> That "V" model must be pretty handy huh?

> Ive seen that unit mentioned for car use as well as
> hiking and now for biking too.

> Is the V model and all around good choice for a variety
> if uses?

The GPS V is quite versatile, but it does have one major limitation.  It
can only load 19 MB of detailed maps at a time.  That's about enough for
one extended metro area, but not for a cross-country trip or even a shorter
one where you want to explore several metro areas along the way.  So make
sure you can live within the 19 Mb limitation before buying.  Note that
this isn't a problem if you can periodically reload new maps from a PC at
intermediate points on your trip.
 
 
 

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Post by john63401at yahoo dot co » Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:21:35

Quote:
>The GPS V is quite versatile, but it does have one major limitation.  It
>can only load 19 MB of detailed maps at a time.  T

Damn!!

Why did Garmin chose to "limit" the memory of the V
unit so much??!!

 
 
 

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Post by gofor » Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:27:29


Quote:
> >The GPS V is quite versatile, but it does have one major limitation.  It
> >can only load 19 MB of detailed maps at a time.  T

> Damn!!

> Why did Garmin chose to "limit" the memory of the V
> unit so much??!!

Rumour has it that they are producing a new version with much more
memory - may be worth talking to them to find out when it's coming
out.

Love my GPS - wouldn't leave home without it!.

 
 
 

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Post by Rick Warn » Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:37:52

Quote:

> I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

> Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

> -Gary

I used an ETrex Legend with Mapsource Metroguide Europe map data last
year.  Two caveats:  

1) There is a limit to how much map data you can download into the
unit, based on unit memory.  Not a limitation if you carry a laptop
and can do regular uploads to the unit, but otherwise you will have
a limited area of detailed map coverage.

2) It is an adjunct to other info, not a replacement.  What happens
if your unit goes on the blink?  It happens.  I found the GPS to be
very useful, but there was a couple of times I needed to reference
the paper maps, esp. around major cities.  

- rick

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Cott » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 03:45:14

Quote:


> > I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

> > Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

> > -Gary

> I used an ETrex Legend with Mapsource Metroguide Europe map data last
> year.  Two caveats:  

> 1) There is a limit to how much map data you can download into the
> unit, based on unit memory.  Not a limitation if you carry a laptop
> and can do regular uploads to the unit, but otherwise you will have
> a limited area of detailed map coverage.

> 2) It is an adjunct to other info, not a replacement.  What happens
> if your unit goes on the blink?  It happens.  I found the GPS to be
> very useful, but there was a couple of times I needed to reference
> the paper maps, esp. around major cities.  

> - rick

I was interviewed for the article below after bicycling from
Philadelphia PA to Wesley MA in the summer of 1998. I used a Libretto
(less than 2 pounds) computer a four pound extended battery and a
Garmin II+ gps, no built-in map.
http://www.billcotton.com/tripmate.htm
http://www.billcotton.com/bike.htm  
BICYCLING Magazine May 1999

By Michael Verdon
Steering by the Stars
THE NEW BREED OF GPS MAKE PAPER MAPS SEEMS DOWNRIGHT OLD FASHIONED

I used a Libretto (less than 2 pounds) computer a four-pound extended
battery and a Garmin II+ gps, no built-in map, but water-resistant.
http://www.billcotton.com/tripmate.htm
I upgraded to The Garmin eMap and now leave the Computer in the
pannier for map upload on trips longer than 500 miles; larger memory
insert allows more maps segments to be uploaded.
On this trip http://www.billcotton.com/70birthday.htm  and this trip
http://www.billcotton.com/71st_birthday_ride.htm it rain and knocked
out the gps, the eMap is less water resistant. My unit was defected
and Garmin replaced it for the out of warranty price. I was able to
use the cue sheet that I developed from the same Delorme Topo4
electronic map that I used to uploaded the route to the gps.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ibikealot/
I summary, I depend on the cue sheet that I make and if I expect a
problem area, I will print that map segment.

 
 
 

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Post by Ken Robert » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:05:11

Half of my most fun and memorable adventures came when I was half-lost on a
road I didn't plan to be riding on.

How would I keep my adventure index high enough if I kept checking every
turn with an accurate and convenient GPS?

Now there are some other days, when I'm not in the mood for getting lost, or
don't have time to get lost.  Maybe it's time for me to buy a GPS for those
days.

Ken
________________________________________
goforit wrote

Quote:
> Love my GPS - wouldn't leave home without it!

 
 
 

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Post by Pete » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:14:23

Quote:

> Half of my most fun and memorable adventures came when I was half-lost on a
> road I didn't plan to be riding on.

No reason you can't take those roads just because you've got a GPS rcvr.
along.  In fact I find I'm more likely to start exploring roads at random
if I know that when I get tired of it I can fire up the GPS and plot a
course that'll take me home.  Also makes it more likely that I'll take a
different route back instead of trying to retrace my steps or staying on
familiar streets.
Quote:

> How would I keep my adventure index high enough if I kept checking every
> turn with an accurate and convenient GPS?

> Now there are some other days, when I'm not in the mood for getting lost, or
> don't have time to get lost.  Maybe it's time for me to buy a GPS for those
> days.

> Ken
> ________________________________________
> goforit wrote

>>Love my GPS - wouldn't leave home without it!

 
 
 

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Post by AM » Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:48:40

Quote:

> I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

> Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

> -Gary

Better have back up maps in case of dead batteries, needing to get
directions from someone who can't see your GPS screen, unintentional
dropping, theft.

Up to you but I wouldn't rely on a GPS alone.

my $0.02
Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Chuck Anderso » Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:29:14

Quote:


>>I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

>>Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

There are Italian (European) maps for GPS, .... yes. I have read one
account of using one to find hotels and other preloaded waypoints in Italy.

Quote:

>Better have back up maps in case of dead batteries, needing to get

My Magellan GPS (a gift) eats batteries. This is a major problem that
you have to constantly stay on top of. You get married to your battery
charger.

Quote:
>directions from someone who can't see your GPS screen, unintentional
>dropping, theft.

>Up to you but I wouldn't rely on a GPS alone.

For me, .... it's a great toy; fun to play with, but that's about how I
treat it. I don't even take it on rides anymore. It's become a coffee
table conversation piece. It would be great while traveling - in new
territory - but then you REALLY have to worry about batteries (as much
as a pair a day if left on all day).

I'd bring my GPS on tour for fun, but I still prefer a map and compass.

Quote:
>my $0.02

Glad it was my friend's $250.

--
*****************************
 Chuck Anderson ? Boulder, CO
 http://www.CycleTourist.com
 Integrity is obvious.
 The lack of it is common.
*****************************

 
 
 

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Post by risto.vara.. » Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:36:36

: Half of my most fun and memorable adventures came when I was half-lost on a
: road I didn't plan to be riding on.

: How would I keep my adventure index high enough if I kept checking every
: turn with an accurate and convenient GPS?

I think most models let you use the Off button for battery save
mode?

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/hpv/hpv.html
varis at no spam please iki fi

 
 
 

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Post by Oliver » Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:57:21

I have the Garmin eTrex Vista with the European R & R maps.  We just got
back from Northern Spain -- Burgos to Santiago along El Camino.  The map
detail was awful, but then the maps which could be purchased were not
much better.

The detail may be better in Italy, but check it out.  As I recall there
are some good 1:100,000 maps available in Italy but hard to find in the
United States.  Try
http://SportToday.org/
what's available.  However, Map Link does not do retail.  I would not
want to rely on the GPS alone, but it does help with the navigating if
you have adequate detail.  Otherwise, it is only good for tracking, and
unless you upload to a computer at night, you may lose a lot of tracking
detail.

Quote:

> I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

> Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

> -Gary

--
Cheers! OliverS
When replying personally, remove "_removespam_"

"When I see an *** on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of
the human race." HG Wells

 
 
 

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Post by Oliver » Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:02:39

The maps which I liked are TCI, Touring Club of Italy.  The regional
maps may be 200K not 100K, but they have good detail for cycling.

Quote:

> I have the Garmin eTrex Vista with the European R & R maps.  We just got
> back from Northern Spain -- Burgos to Santiago along El Camino.  The map
> detail was awful, but then the maps which could be purchased were not
> much better.

> The detail may be better in Italy, but check it out.  As I recall there
> are some good 1:100,000 maps available in Italy but hard to find in the
> United States.  Try
> http://SportToday.org/
> what's available.  However, Map Link does not do retail.  I would not
> want to rely on the GPS alone, but it does help with the navigating if
> you have adequate detail.  Otherwise, it is only good for tracking, and
> unless you upload to a computer at night, you may lose a lot of tracking
> detail.


>> I'm going to Italy and I don't want to haul several maps.

>> Can I use a GPS with Italian maps of the backroads?

>> -Gary

--
Cheers! OliverS
When replying personally, remove "_removespam_"

"When I see an *** on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of
the human race." HG Wells