> The UCDavis School of Veterinary Medicine Book Of Horses
> "Nutritional causes of founder include rapid consumption of excessive
> amounts of grain, cold water after exercise or lush grass or legume
> pastures. If one of these circumstances has occurred, a veterinarian
> should be called at once (before signs develop) to care for the
Doc Newell, you're not just a vet, you have endurance experience -
hasn't the cold water thing been debunked? Or is that advice for certain
> This sounds a tad extreme to me. Would you call the vet immediately
> if you found your horse had broken into the grain bin??
If I had doubts, I'd call my vet. My vet is brilliant. My vet will
listen to what I have to say, and might say 'I'll be there immediately'
or 'I'll have a look tomorrow' or 'don't worry right now, call me again
tomorrow if you still worry or if he gets worse', depending on what the
> What on earth
> could or would a vet do in the absence of any signs of distress?
Advise me on what to do with the horse and all the things others have
listed in the thread.
> How often does founder occur after a feed bin break in.
Nobody knows. Robert Eustace (British laminitis expert) reckons that
cases of laminitis are far more common than assumed; but that many cases
are on such a low level that the horses merely appear footy, or you see
a little red in the horse's foot and think he must have stood on a
> beast(normally outside 24/7) has broken in to the feed bin at least
> once a year - yes mea culpa for rotten management, but I guess mea
> culpa for gross negligence for not calling the vet too.
If it happens once, it's an accident. If it happens twice, it's gross
stupidity. If it happens more often than that, it's almost a foregone
conclusion. Fence the damn thing off! Why risk your horse's life?
It can happen at any time, to any horse. Sad case on our yard right now:
Shire (probably not purebred); 2yo, footy on the straight, very pottery
on turns ('he's just stiff') will point one front foot, will momentarily
drop into laminitic stance when asked to walk; not much heat in his
feet, but clear pulse.
Owner thinks he must have hurt himself running around and puts him back
into the (moderately rich) pasture. Myself (laminitic TB who made a full
recovery) and one other owner (pony who ultimately had to be put down
despite being diagnosed early) have tried to reason with her...
and the Count