Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Nitro » Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:24:39


I have an 11 year-old LARGE quarter horse gelding who tries to pull back and
rear every time I tighten his girth. I have elastic on the girth and have
never ridden with it very tight anyway and so am not sure what's bugging him.
I was not his original owner, though and cannot say what previous folks did
to him. He also blows up before you get a chance to start tightening. Any
body else have experience with this?

-Kris

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Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Sue Bish » Tue, 22 Mar 1994 17:48:15

Quote:

> I have an 11 year-old LARGE quarter horse gelding who tries to pull back and
> rear every time I tighten his girth. I have elastic on the girth and have
> never ridden with it very tight anyway and so am not sure what's bugging him.
> I was not his original owner, though and cannot say what previous folks did
> to him. He also blows up before you get a chance to start tightening. Any
> body else have experience with this?

> -Kris

Sounds like he is having some kind of pain associated with the girth.  Have
you checked the saddle for proper fit?  Also, lots of palpation of the girth
area may show something.  I'd also suggest getting your vet involved.  Have
him/her come over and watch the horse react to the girth.  

Sue

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Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Harriet Rober » Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:26:35

My old morgan-QH used to have this problem too.  I think it was caused
by his prior owners (somewhere down the line) tightening his cinch too
tight on a western saddle.  The way I dealt with it was to always put
the girth on really loose (so loose that you could see space between it
and the horse) and walk him around for say half a minute and then
tighten it slowly.  I made sure never to get the girth very tight on him
either - luckily he had good withers so saddle slippage wasn't much of a
problem on him.  Another thing to check is to make sure that the skin
behind your horse's elbows isn't getting pinched.  To smooth out the
skin in that area under the girth, you can take each of the horse's
front legs (one at a time), grasp it somewhere between the knee and
fetlock, and pull the leg forward so that the skin behind the horse's
elbow is stretched out.  Hope this helps.

                                - Harriet

 
 
 

Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Nitro » Wed, 23 Mar 1994 03:49:34

The horse in question has an extremely well-fitting saddle and high-tech foam
back pads to boot. The very second I pick up the girth to even begin to hook
the buckles (loosly) he pulls back and rears. I don't even get a chance to
pull it tight quickly. And he is such a big lug that one has to get the hell
outta the way or get killed. Any dicipline suggestions?

-Kris

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Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Phet » Wed, 23 Mar 1994 04:17:12

Kris, you might check the saddle fit, especially over the withers. If
he's a wide-and-stiocky QH, your saddle might be pinching his withers
when tightened (and if you've already thought of this, never mind.)


Quote:

> The way I dealt with it was to always put
> the girth on really loose (so loose that you could see space between it
> and the horse) and walk him around for say half a minute and then
> tighten it slowly.

Harriet happened upon the exact method of tightening the girth that
many Western horses expect: take the slack out, walk around a bit, snug
up, pick feet, tighten up. Horses that expect this procedure can get a
little surprised when you deviate from it!

Happy Trails,
Phetsy

Opinions owned, not rented.

 
 
 

Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Martha Selle » Wed, 23 Mar 1994 05:03:06


Quote:

>The horse in question has an extremely well-fitting saddle and high-tech foam
>back pads to boot. The very second I pick up the girth to even begin to hook
>the buckles (loosly) he pulls back and rears. I don't even get a chance to
>pull it tight quickly. And he is such a big lug that one has to get the hell

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Quote:
>outta the way or get killed. Any dicipline suggestions?

He needs to rebuild his trust.  This is not a rebellion
or limit testing usually, it is a reaction to pain
and surprise.  Somebody pulled it tight quickly and
he is afraid you will too.

Start with a surcingle, carrots and lots of patience.
And don't tie him.  Get him standing respectfully
first, using gentle consistent reminders when he
moves.  That may take a few days.  Then work
the surcingle over him, backing off when he gets
tense, to reassure him that you are not going to
do the thing he fears.  

Then put the saddle on and don't try to girth up.
If he won't let you reach for the girth, rub
a leadrope all around and under the belly.  When
you can, reach for the girth then drop it.  Pull
it under his belly then let it go again.

When you finally work him up to letting you
tighten it, you have to keep his trust --
don't tighten much when you first saddle
and never tighten quickly, or you will prove to
to him he was right.  Those darn humans do
sneak up and hurt you.

I would not hurry this retraining.  Once
he gets it (and if you continue to be considerate
saddling him) he will be a lot nicer to be
around.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Martha

 
 
 

Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by John Cleme » Sat, 02 Apr 1994 05:54:22

Quote:

>> I have an 11 year-old LARGE quarter horse gelding who tries to pull back and
>> rear every time I tighten his girth. I have elastic on the girth and have
>> never ridden with it very tight anyway and so am not sure what's bugging him.
>> I was not his original owner, though and cannot say what previous folks did
>> to him. He also blows up before you get a chance to start tightening. Any
>> body else have experience with this?

>> -Kris

Here's something you mmight try, just on the off chance it might work.  Try
saddling him from the other side.  My mare used to be *terrible* to saddle;
as soon as she saw the saddle coming she'd jump sideways, try to run forward,
anything to try to prevent you from getting it on her back.  The vet checked
her back and found no problems, and I came to think that she was just really
afraid of having the saddle slammed onto her back (she's off the track and
her trainer was not the gentlest of people).  ANyway, one day I tried putting
the saddle on from the off side, and she stood like a little lamb.  SHe only
thinks it's scary if I tack her up from the "traditional" side.  (She's does
*not* get a lot of points for intelligence -- but I love her anyway.)

So give it a try.

-ellie

 
 
 

Horse HATES having the girth tightened.

Post by Hr Daniel Demu » Sat, 02 Apr 1994 23:16:25

--
The horse I ride hates saddling; but if I put the saddle on his back in his
box and girth it there, it seems to be less "danger" for him. Because he
also hates stone-floors, it can also be related to this...

Seeya, Daniel

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Post by David Wyla » Wed, 06 Apr 1994 16:56:57

My horse used to panic sometimes when I tried to
tighten the girth.  Went over backward two times and
freaked out fighting the rope other times.  Turned out
she had a spasmed back (from riding in the trail, apparently).
I had to be sure to NOT tie her and to girth her slowly.  Both
times this happened, it took weeks to "go away".  It wasn't
until after the second time that my current vet was able to
tell me what the problem was.  Since then, she's had
chiropractic treatments and no longer has those kinds of
reactions.If she does start reacting to being girthed, I
take to the chiropractor and get her rib or back put back in.

You might investigate to see if your horse hurts.
His back could be sore or he could have a rib out.  (My mare
objects to being curried in the girth area and between her
front legs when a rib is out).

Good luck with him.

Kathy

 
 
 

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Post by weinzap.. » Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:33:00

Quote:
> ANyway, one day I tried putting
> the saddle on from the off side, and she stood like a little lamb.  

This also works great for giving shots. Alot of people who are right handed
give shots on the left side of the horse. If they tend to go beserk try the
right side. Carolyn