Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by GRA Jeni » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 08:38:02


I'd like to hear from anyone with experience with the Sport Saddle or
other endurance saddles. I am planning to buy a new saddle for my
tennessess walker, whom I use primarily for trail riding.

I've heard that the Sport Saddle may be a problem because it does not have
a tree, so it might get too hot. Does anyone have experience to indicate
that that is or is not a problem?

Because I ride a walker, I need a saddle that sits me back on the horse,
not one that produces a forward seat.

Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks

 
 
 

Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by Truman Preva » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 23:11:31


Quote:

> I'd like to hear from anyone with experience with the Sport Saddle or
> other endurance saddles. I am planning to buy a new saddle for my
> tennessess walker, whom I use primarily for trail riding.

> I've heard that the Sport Saddle may be a problem because it does not have
> a tree, so it might get too hot. Does anyone have experience to indicate
> that that is or is not a problem?

> Because I ride a walker, I need a saddle that sits me back on the horse,
> not one that produces a forward seat.

Riding a walker you need a saddle that puts you in good balance near the
center of gravity of the horse, not forward nor back.  The sitting back on
a walker in the show ring might produce the *desired results* for a five
minute class, but on the trail it will cause a sore back faster than
anything else you can do.  If you have a good fitting saddle that fits the
horse in the shoulder area you won't have to sit back to keep the saddle
from interfering with the shoulder motion.  (One of my soap box issues).

Quote:
> Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks

I have gone to a custom fit saddle for my endurance walker.  A good custom
fit saddle is about the same price as a good saddle and you know it will
fit.  Walkers tend to be difficulat to fit for several reasons.  In general
the walker has a laid back wide shoulder, predominate wide withers and  and
a narrow pitch.  This combination causes saddle fit problems.  I started
out five years ago with a saddle (custom fit) with a fairly wide tree.  The
last three years we have been fairly active in endurance competition and I
had to get a different saddle.  Her back changes a lot becuase of the
exercise.  I went to a narrow pitch tree (pretty standard TB pitch) with a
lot of flair at the gullet to accominate the shoulders.

A walker tends to have a lot of shoulder motion and many saddles will
restrict this motion, be sure to check this when you get a saddle.  As far
as sprots saddles, most people that use them are very happy.  I talked with
Genie Stewart-Spears the other day about the sports saddle and walkers.  I
have a young Arab(6) two young walkers (5 and 3) that I we need to start
riding and I wanted a saddle that is somewhat interchangable between the
horses and my wife and myself.  Being in Southwestern Kentucky, Genie sees
a lot of gaited horses and owns a five gaited horse (ABS) herself.  She
said she sells a lot of saddles to people to use on gaited horses and most
seem satisified.   The only way to really find out is to try one out.  
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     Understand the prinicples so you can devise your own methods.

       Truman and Mystic "The Horse from HELL" Storm


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Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by Amy Susan Garn » Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:37:51

Well, Jeni, I'll let you know.  I ordered an endurance model, for price
and minimal bulk, to see if it will fit my Arab (a saddle, at last?).
I'm hoping it will fit the Paso, too.  I have to see how the size runs,
because Genie Stewart Spears (does she go by a normal, short name, by the
way) suggested that the sizes run a little different.  She suggested that
one use a pad, which fit under the ENTIRE saddle so as not to create a
pressure point, of equal thickness throughout, that had wicking action to
absorb sweat, and this should help keep the horse cool.  The Sports Saddle
is something of a souped up saddle pad, which is what I wanted, so it
does sit along the back its whole length.  
        Hopefully it will be here any day.  (fingers crossed) I really
hope it frees up my horses like it says.  I can't wait to see them when
they can be tacked up with no tail swishing, or wanting to canter all
the time (no, its not just extra energy, they get to run on pasture), etc.
(fingers crossed REAL tight)  I just remember the look on Cobrena's face
when we put the copper Tom Thumb in her mouth after those years of Columbian
bits, big heavy spade things:  'Gee, what is this?  Hmmm, I, I think I LIKE
this!'  
        I'll type back to let you know how it goes.

Amy S. Garner

Manhattan, KS

 
 
 

Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by Sullys Ma » Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:20:30



Quote:
>Well, Jeni, I'll let you know.  I ordered an endurance model, for price
>and minimal bulk, to see if it will fit my Arab (a saddle, at last?).
>I'm hoping it will fit the Paso, too.  I have to see how the size runs,
>because Genie Stewart Spears (does she go by a normal, short name, by the
>way) suggested that the sizes run a little different.  She suggested that
>one use a pad, which fit under the ENTIRE saddle so as not to create a
>pressure point, of equal thickness throughout, that had wicking action to
>absorb sweat, and this should help keep the horse cool.  The Sports Saddle
>is something of a souped up saddle pad, which is what I wanted, so it
>does sit along the back its whole length.
>        Hopefully it will be here any day.  (fingers crossed) I really
>hope it frees up my horses like it says.  I can't wait to see them when
>they can be tacked up with no tail swishing, or wanting to canter all
>the time (no, its not just extra energy, they get to run on pasture), etc.
>(fingers crossed REAL tight)  I just remember the look on Cobrena's face
>when we put the copper Tom Thumb in her mouth after those years of Columbian
>bits, big heavy spade things:  'Gee, what is this?  Hmmm, I, I think I LIKE
>this!'
>        I'll type back to let you know how it goes.

>Amy S. Garner

>Manhattan, KS

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Thought I would jump here in again.  Genie SS also told me to make
sure the pad was the same size as the saddle.  Skito makes an
equalizer pad for this saddle which fits it perfectly-the foam
inserts are larger than the saddle, but the spine is not covered, so
the pad creates a sort of air channel along the spine.

We just got back from riding Pt. Reyes.  The weather was brisk and
windy and the horses were wild.  We did about 20 to 25 miles each
day at a fast pace and were fighting the horses at that to slow
down.  Anyway, all three had the Sport saddle and neoprene cinches
and no one came back with a sore back, rub spots or girth sores.
AFter cantering along and in the ocean, we stopped and it was REALLY
easy to wash all the sand off the cinches before taking off again.
This is a huge advantage to neoprene. Also, with the Sport saddle
you can ride with the cinch very loose and not have the saddle
slip at all.

Yes, they can move downhill very easily, they were all quite willing
to trot fast and canter downhill and we had lots of arguments with
them about going down at a safe pace!  Anyway, all three ate and
drank well and came home fine.

Good luck with the saddles!

Karen

 
 
 

Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by Truman Preva » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:30:34


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Quote:

> We just got back from riding Pt. Reyes.  The weather was brisk and
> windy and the horses were wild.  We did about 20 to 25 miles each
> day at a fast pace and were fighting the horses at that to slow
> down.

Don't you just love it when that happens!

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Quote:
> Karen

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     Understand the prinicples so you can devise your own methods.

       Truman and Mystic "The Horse from HELL" Storm


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Sport Saddle/Endurance Saddle Advice

Post by Sullys Ma » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 01:11:28


Quote:



>snip..

>> We just got back from riding Pt. Reyes.  The weather was brisk and
>> windy and the horses were wild.  We did about 20 to 25 miles each
>> day at a fast pace and were fighting the horses at that to slow
>> down.

>Don't you just love it when that happens!

>snip..

>> Karen

>______________________________________________________________________________

>     Understand the prinicples so you can devise your own methods.

>       Truman and Mystic "The Horse from HELL" Storm


>______________________________________________________________________________

Well, yes, it was the time of my life.  Very exciting and fun, but I
was tired afterward and I thought I was in very good shape.  My mare
was also in heat which factored in a very grumpy and defiant mood.

The third day we decided to go for a short ride to let the horses
stretch out before we put them in the trailer to go home.  I hopped
on bareback and it felt really good to let my legs just hang.

It ended up being a 2 hour ride and all three horses STILL really
wanted to go.  Going out away from camp was great.  All three going
on a loose rein.  Comming back to camp was just awful!

But all three came back sound and frisky so I guess we didn't ride
them too hard-just got them in better shape!  We thought we better
plan a Friday ride with a lot of hills.
Karen