if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by menotmee » Sun, 18 May 2008 00:51:07


im voting mccain..
 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by wanyik.. » Sun, 18 May 2008 00:54:49


Quote:
> im voting mccain..

He shouldn't because of the "Loser" stigma.  Edwards is the new
Gephardt.

Shoudln't go with Clinton for that matter, I'm dreading that that's
where things are headed.

Picture Hillary as VP (if Obama wins, which he surely won't if he's
saddled with Billary).   Insubordination city.

 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by Torrey M. Spear » Sun, 18 May 2008 02:17:06


Quote:

> Picture Hillary as VP (if Obama wins, which he surely won't if he's
> saddled with Billary).   Insubordination city.

Dick Gephardt was a name floated around on FNC this past Sunday - and
I think that would be a great VP choice for Obama.
Gephardt is an established party Democrat who has the experience he's
lacking, strong on defense, and is as personable.

But isn't the issue Obama is going to run into ... painting himself as
a unifying "change-agent" who is going to re-write politics in
Washington; but with such a lack of experience - he has to take a
statesmen from Washington to run with him, and thereby negating his
argument:  You're calling for change in Washington, but taking another
politician with you?

- TMS

 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by wanyik.. » Sun, 18 May 2008 02:50:47


Quote:
>*** Gephardt was a name floated around on FNC this past Sunday - and
> I think that would be a great VP choice for Obama.
> Gephardt is an established party Democrat who has the experience he's
> lacking, strong on defense, and is as personable.

Perception is everything.  He's a nice guy yes, but he comes across as
meek, and has a loser stigma.  There's better choices available who
fit your criteria.

Quote:
> But isn't the issue Obama is going to run into ... painting himself as
> a unifying "change-agent" who is going to re-write politics in
> Washington; but with such a lack of experience -

Just remember nobody gives a sh*t about "experience".   That's the
mistake Clinton made, if McCain is smart he won't run on
"experience".  Experience in this sense is overrated as they all have
enough "experience" to be qualified.

Quote:
>he has to take a statesmen from Washington to run with him, and thereby negating >his argument: ?You're calling for change in Washington, but taking another
> politician with you?

Well both candidates face a dilemna.

Obama, probably would feel comfortable with someone like Sebelius,
Kaine or Webb.  However, it "makes sense" to go with an old white guy
either strong on foreign policy (Clark, Biden) or a big Clinton
supporter (Bayh, Strickland). I'd like to see him go with Clark, as
he's "not a politician" and he softens the "I heard he's a muzlim
ya'll" element.

McCain has to pick between appealing to moderates/independents or
exciting the base.  The best choice is Huckabee, because the bible-
thumpers will be happy with that, and he's also just a cool person
(comes across as that - I actually like the guy).  He has a gimmick to
live up to as a maverick, so he'll have to pick someone immigration
friendly.   Hagel would be good, but people'd see right through
Lieberman (even though they're legit friends). I don't see him going
with a full-***ed GOPer, McCain is so weird, he comes across as he
legit has disdain for many GOP thought-processes.  As George Will
says, he views other conservatives, from his own high horse i.e. you
idiots.  You should be a modern, principled conservative like me.
Principled and unpredictable like me. Like me you know.

All in all, surprisingly decent options this time round.

 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by Lost mode » Sun, 18 May 2008 02:56:26


Quote:

> >*** Gephardt was a name floated around on FNC this past Sunday - and
> > I think that would be a great VP choice for Obama.
> > Gephardt is an established party Democrat who has the experience he's
> > lacking, strong on defense, and is as personable.

> Perception is everything. ?He's a nice guy yes, but he comes across as
> meek, and has a loser stigma. ?There's better choices available who
> fit your criteria.

> > But isn't the issue Obama is going to run into ... painting himself as
> > a unifying "change-agent" who is going to re-write politics in
> > Washington; but with such a lack of experience -

> Just remember nobody gives a sh*t about "experience". ? That's the
> mistake Clinton made, if McCain is smart he won't run on
> "experience". ?Experience in this sense is overrated as they all have
> enough "experience" to be qualified.

> >he has to take a statesmen from Washington to run with him, and thereby negating >his argument: ?You're calling for change in Washington, but taking another
> > politician with you?

> Well both candidates face a dilemna.

> Obama, probably would feel comfortable with someone like Sebelius,
> Kaine or Webb. ?However, it "makes sense" to go with an old white guy
> either strong on foreign policy (Clark, Biden) or a big Clinton
> supporter (Bayh, Strickland). I'd like to see him go with Clark, as
> he's "not a politician" and he softens the "I heard he's a muzlim
> ya'll" element.

I would love to see Clark become his running mate.
 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by Torrey M. Spear » Sun, 18 May 2008 03:39:32


Quote:

> All in all, surprisingly decent options this time round.

I said basically the same thing in another thread.
McCain's choice of Veep will tell us a lot about which way he decides
to go in the general.

McCain's best bet if he wants to win the White House is to take a
moderate, center-right guy with him, and he'll have a lot easier time
running to the center with his pro-green, pro-immigration stance that
urks Conservatives so much; promising us Supreme Court justices, lower
taxes, and winning the War in Iraq.
Everything else the Republicans are going to have to compromise on.

McCain can build a strong enough coalition nationwide - and eliminate
the "George W Bush Third Term" moniker from the left, which I think is
a losing proposition anyway.

- TMS

 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by V~A~R~F~A The Egalitarian Sco » Sun, 18 May 2008 03:38:27

lol. just mention politics and those puppets dance the macarena. too bad
they don't respond to any meaningful posts.
 
 
 

if obamma picks edwards as his vp candidate

Post by Scott » Sun, 18 May 2008 03:58:37


Quote:
> Gephardt is an established party Democrat who has the experience he's
> lacking, strong on defense, and is as personable.

hi, fake TMS.