Something EXTREMELY disturbing I observed at AK 5-20

Something EXTREMELY disturbing I observed at AK 5-20

Post by FunTyp » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:



> > >>Well this shouldn't be surprising at all, considering an entire LAND in
> > >>California Adventure is supposed to be a cheap trashy carnival. Yeah, the
> > >>coaster will be good, no, it doesn't belong there.

> > DCA is far from a Disney caliber park.  The only animatrons in the
> > park are the ones in the theaters for It's Tough to Be a Bug and
> > Muppetvision.  There are a bunch of off the shelf carnival rides,
> > games, and really only one Disney level ride - California Soaring.

>         I take it you've been there already.

And FYI According to Morgan MFG., the rides are not "off the shelf", but that's
as far as they can "say" to the GP because it's a Disney item.

IOA has modified "off the shelf" rides too and I don't hear anyone complaining
about them.

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Post by Justin » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>IOA has modified "off the shelf" rides too and I don't hear anyone
>complaining
>about them.

A number of people have quips about Dr. Doom's Fearfall..


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Post by SCREAMSCAP » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> 4.  IT WILL ALL BE GONE IN 6 WEEKS.

Unless the profits are through the roof, then you'll see
permanent versions put in place.

 
 
 

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Post by Evil O » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>IOA has modified "off the shelf" rides too and I don't hear anyone
>complaining
>about them.

IOA is also a Universal theme park, which by its very nature will never be the
calibur of Disney anyway, so why would it matter?
 
 
 

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Post by Senshi So Sugo » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> WOW! what a shock - thanks for the post.
> I'll be goin in June and can see my 7 year old whining to spend her money
at
> this cheap thrill spot.
> We were all looking forward to AK the most of all the parks and seems like
> it would be hard to "get around" this eyesore in what is deemed to be the
> greatest themepark of all.
> Hope all take your advise and speak up - I sure will if the carnival is in
> town when I go
> Thanks again for the warning!     GOODolPAL

It is very hard to get around in!  We went there for half a day, aand
requested to get a ticket for Epcot, we were so miffed.  My son is seven,
85lbs of pure muscle, and 53 inches tall (big boy!), and there were kids his
size and age being pushed around in strollers, which made navigation
virtually impossible, and to top it off, now, my man and I aren't exactly
small by any comparison, but there were so many supersized people in the
park that day, too.  Supersize people and strollers at every turn make for a
very unpleasant walk.
We really had a blast at Epcot, though!  Test Track is the bomb!
 
 
 

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Post by Robert Ma » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

one inch short of coasters that SUCKS
silent were the cars, silent were the cries.
medusa count 11
In loving memory of Adam Petty and all those brave people who risk thier life
for the sport we love so much. I hate to see talent and life cut short so soon,
so tragic.45, 7,davey.
 
 
 

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Post by Robert Ma » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>IOA is also a Universal theme park, which by its very nature will never be
>the
>calibur of Disney anyway, so why would it matter?

Maybe they will never be on that caliber becuase of people like YOU if people
expected things and if they werent delivered didnt go they would be forced into
disney like caliber so MAMOSH
silent were the cars, silent were the cries.
medusa count 11
In loving memory of Adam Petty and all those brave people who risk thier life
for the sport we love so much. I hate to see talent and life cut short so soon,
so tragic.45, 7,davey.
 
 
 

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Post by Drachenwu » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

whats a Disney calibur ride???? was there at MGM and Epcot on Sunday 5/21 and
R&R went down....and Test Track went down ( again) this time as I got to the
loading platform....to in my last 4 visits I have a total of 11 ride shutdowns
while I was there....and I am talking about the major rides...

Clint

 
 
 

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Post by Rastus O'Ging » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00



Quote:




>> >> >Well this shouldn't be surprising at all, considering an entire LAND in
>> >> >California Adventure is supposed to be a cheap trashy carnival. Yeah, the
>> >> >coaster will be good, no, it doesn't belong there.

>> >> Why?  I think everything in DCA so far looks great and will fit in just fine.
>> >> Or was this just your personal opinion?

>> >> Cheers.

>> >> --Robb

>> >> Theme Park Review
>> >> www.themeparkreview.com

>> >       I agree 100% Robb!  Everyone stay home so there are less people in
>> >front of me in the queues at California Adventure.  :-)

>> Queues for what?  The only new ride is California Soaring and that
>> lame-sounding Limo ride.  The big coaster looks OK, but quite rampy.
>> The rapids ride reportedly has zero theming on it.

>> I'm sure Disnoids will fight this one to the end just like AK, but DCA
>> is a very unimpressive park to say the least.  Unless there are about
>> 5 secret rides that are going to be there, it's probably the lamest
>> Disney park yet.

>    Well, as long as you've been there to form an opinion.

Well, let's see.  I rode a brand new steel wild mouse at the Houston
LSR that is a near if not exact duplicate of Mulholland Madness.  Fun
ride, but nothing great.  I really don't like spinning swing rides,
either in a single swing or in a car (DCA has one of each).  I always
thought parachute rides are sorta neat, but not too long of a ride
(DCA has two).  I've never been too impressed with space shot rides,
except for the Big Shot (DCA has two.)  I do LOVE Muppetvision 4-D,
but think that It's Tough To Be a Bug is inferior.  I like most river
rapids rides, and the one at DCA is long, but not a whole lot
different than any of the others, even with the drop like in Kali
River Rapids.

Let's see, that's damn near all the rides at DCA.  California Soaring
sounds very cool and is a first of it's kind ride, so that is ONE
thing I don't know about the park.  The Superstar Limo ride sounds
quite lame and I doubt will be anywhere near as good as Roger Rabbit.

Finally, the big coaster is very rampy, has one verticle loop, a
couple of LIM sections, and is a Vekoma.  It should be very fun, but I
doubt it will mix up any top ten lists.  

So, that's all the rides I believe.  Let's not forget the farm
area!!!!  I don't pay $45 to visit a farm.  And of course the
previously mentioned carnival games just like the ones Walt never
wanted in his park  In fact, as I'm sure you know, he made Disneyland
the exact opposite of the carny midways of the 50s because they
weren't family friendly.

As I said, DCA is far from impressive.  It will be popular because of
the Disnoids, but it will not come even close to Disneyland in magic
and enjoyment.

Rastus O'Ginga

Winner of the 2nd Annual C. Montgomery Burns Award for
Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.

 
 
 

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Post by Rastus O'Ging » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00



Quote:



>> > >>Well this shouldn't be surprising at all, considering an entire LAND in
>> > >>California Adventure is supposed to be a cheap trashy carnival. Yeah, the
>> > >>coaster will be good, no, it doesn't belong there.

>> > DCA is far from a Disney caliber park.  The only animatrons in the
>> > park are the ones in the theaters for It's Tough to Be a Bug and
>> > Muppetvision.  There are a bunch of off the shelf carnival rides,
>> > games, and really only one Disney level ride - California Soaring.

>>         I take it you've been there already.

>And FYI According to Morgan MFG., the rides are not "off the shelf", but that's
>as far as they can "say" to the GP because it's a Disney item.

>IOA has modified "off the shelf" rides too and I don't hear anyone complaining
>about them.

Which ones?  One Fish is, and Hulk and DD are off the shelf (off the
absolute top shelf).  Yeah, technically Popeye is off the shelf, but
it has loads of animatrons and tunnels.  The only "new" ride at DCA is
California Soaring, and if it is one tenth the ride Spider-man is I'll
be happy.  But, one ride doesn't justify the rest of the crap.  

To compare IOA to DCA is damn near blasphemous.

Rastus O'Ginga

Winner of the 2nd Annual C. Montgomery Burns Award for
Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.

 
 
 

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Post by Locobo » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Well, let's see.  I rode a brand new steel wild mouse at the Houston
> LSR that is a near if not exact duplicate of Mulholland Madness.  Fun
> ride, but nothing great.  I really don't like spinning swing rides,
> either in a single swing or in a car (DCA has one of each).  I always
> thought parachute rides are sorta neat, but not too long of a ride
> (DCA has two).  I've never been too impressed with space shot rides,
> except for the Big Shot (DCA has two.)  I do LOVE Muppetvision 4-D,
> but think that It's Tough To Be a Bug is inferior.  I like most river
> rapids rides, and the one at DCA is long, but not a whole lot
> different than any of the others, even with the drop like in Kali
> River Rapids.

> Let's see, that's damn near all the rides at DCA.  California Soaring
> sounds very cool and is a first of it's kind ride, so that is ONE
> thing I don't know about the park.  The Superstar Limo ride sounds
> quite lame and I doubt will be anywhere near as good as Roger Rabbit.

> Finally, the big coaster is very rampy, has one verticle loop, a
> couple of LIM sections, and is a Vekoma.  It should be very fun, but I
> doubt it will mix up any top ten lists.

> So, that's all the rides I believe.  Let's not forget the farm
> area!!!!  I don't pay $45 to visit a farm.  And of course the
> previously mentioned carnival games just like the ones Walt never
> wanted in his park  In fact, as I'm sure you know, he made Disneyland
> the exact opposite of the carny midways of the 50s because they
> weren't family friendly.

> As I said, DCA is far from impressive.  It will be popular because of
> the Disnoids, but it will not come even close to Disneyland in magic
> and enjoyment.

> Rastus O'Ginga

> Winner of the 2nd Annual C. Montgomery Burns Award for
> Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.

        OK, that's your opinion and that's fine.  For myself though, I like to
experience things for myself before making a final judgement.  I apply
that to everything, and not just new parks or rides.  I don't like to
judge things on paper because if I do ride them and I happen to love it,
I don't liek to eat my own words.  (Anyone remember the "Medusa will
*NOT* be a floorless coaster" debate?  Notice how you don't hear that
comment since it opened?  What condiment do you put on your own words
before chowing down on them?)

        BTW do you have to resort to namecalling when you're trying to make a
point or state your opinions about something?  Do you do that when you
talk to people in person too or just online?

 
 
 

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Post by SLChri » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Whoa there pardner.  Let's mosie on over here and discuss this.  IOA was and
sitll is of Disney caliber.  Some of the rides are better than Disney
(Spidey, Popeye, Hulk, DD.  Others are close to Disney.  The park as a whole
is Disney quality.  The people who run it and work there aren't, but the
park itself (as those of us who were there during the AP Previews can
attest) is Disney quality.  Of course, if Disney doesn't get it's act
together with the cast members and new rides (cheap, cheap, cheap) at WDW
there may not be that much of a distinction in the future.
--
Keep 'em Coasting!

Morientes Et Eco Vivimus
Acts 2: 36-39

Chris Harper
http://www.lifthill.com/


Quote:
> >IOA has modified "off the shelf" rides too and I don't hear anyone
> >complaining
> >about them.

> IOA is also a Universal theme park, which by its very nature will never be
the
> calibur of Disney anyway, so why would it matter?

 
 
 

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Post by Locobo » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> And lets not even get into the employees. One of the main reasons that I, and a
> good number of others I know have little to no interest in renewing their APs.

        I never saw Islands of Adventure in its preview days, so I can't
comment on its current condition compared to its early state.  (I loved
the park during my two recent visits though.)  But, I agree 100% with
your last point, quoted above.  The employees there were not very
courteous at all.  Do the people in the stores and restaurants *ever*
say "thank you" as they're taking your hard-earned money?  They didn't
when I was there.  :-(  I saw a very ugly incident there involving the
employees, but I'll save that for my trip report.  It definitely left a
bad taste in my mouth about the park.
 
 
 

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Post by Evil O » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

<<Whoa there pardner>>

You whoa there, Son.

You need to get it right. . . What you are talking about, based on this
statement:

<< (as those of us who were there during the AP Previews can attest) >>

. . . clearly seems to me as though you are speaking of IoA in *preview* mode.
Back when it was an awesome park. Back when it was in perfect condition.

Back before Universal ruined it.

No sense arguing about the *past*. IoA has fallen to crap. The rides are in
some of the worst conditions, and the worst part is Universal shows *no*
concern about fixing most of it, at least on a timely schedule.

During previews, IoA could attempt to *compete* with Disney, but would never
overcome, for the sheer fact that the obvious would happen, and it already has:
Universal Tech Services' utter neglect of what the park and rides SHOULD still
be like.

And lets not even get into the employees. One of the main reasons that I, and a
good number of others I know have little to no interest in renewing their APs.

C

 
 
 

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Post by Evil O » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

<<the big coaster is very rampy>>

If you call steep twisted drops and many airtime hills "rampy," then ok.

<< couple of LIM sections, >>

One launch, the other is used soley as a lift hill to reduce noise, and is not
a launch.

<<and is a Vekoma.>>

Absolutely wrong.

If you're going to pass judgement on the park prior to opening, at least get
your facts straight. It's an Intamin. Yes, the same Intamin from Superman Ride
of Steel.

The CA Screamin' track is mostly the flat track they use, and much of it is a
*lot* more steeply banked than first glance would assume.