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Post by GodsOnSafar » Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:58:01


http://content.sixflags.com/newfor2013/

Lots of stuff there to digest.

-Full Throttle at SFMM looks pretty good. Not super long, but some decent elements, like the backwards launch setting up the forward one, the top hat element over the loop looks cool too. This seems to be the kind of ride Intamin traditionally would have been brought in to do, but Premier has been called in to do the job.

-Iron Rattler is tough to have a great take on given the limited footage provided.  By existing it is probably a huge improvement over Rattler.

-I gotta admit that I like the idea of merging the Safari stuff with the theme park at Great Adventure. Lot of potential there.

-Tower swings at SFOT and SFOG. Every park and carnival is gonna have one by the end of the decade, aren't they?

-Big night time spectacular at Great America. Just about any park over 3,000,000 in attendance is going to end up with something like this, aren't they?

-SFStl gets a used boomerang. Better than nothing, amirite?

-Water slides at a bunch of places straight out of various companies catalogs, with Whitewater in Georgia just getting a waterslide they own plussed up, probably as a test case for the rest of the chain

-moar new Flyers at Great Escape

Pretty good list of stuff for next year.

 
 
 

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Post by BaSSiStiS » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:08:07

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> -Full Throttle at SFMM looks pretty good. Not super long, but some decent elements, like the backwards launch setting up the forward one, the top hat element over the loop looks cool too. This seems to be the kind of ride Intamin traditionally would have been brought in to do, but Premier has been called in to do the job.

Yay, more inversions at SFMM. Well, at least it looks to be adding one more airtime moment, so there will now be 3 in the park...

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> -Iron Rattler is tough to have a great take on given the limited footage provided.  By existing it is probably a huge improvement over Rattler.

Given how great NTG was, I have pretty high hopes for this. The beginning of Rattler would be good if the ride hadn't been in such shitty shape, and it looks like they're re-thinking the stupidity on top of the cliff, which was always the  other big problem. Kind of e***d for this one.

 
 
 

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Post by tyl.. » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 04:11:29

The amazing thing about Iron Rattler to me is that not only does it essentially restore the original profile of the first drop, but even s-curves it a bit and is in general just insanely steep.

 
 
 

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Post by skiguy77 » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:19:49

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> The amazing thing about Iron Rattler to me is that not only does it essentially restore the original profile of the first drop, but even s-curves it a bit and is in general just insanely steep.

pfffft.    Full Throttle and Rattler, the other stuff is just fluff.  

And Full Throttle goes backwards, just like Gatekeeper.  That means flying into Austin, staying just north, and visiting both SFFT and SFoT.   Or picking which ever city has the lowest airfare and driving between the two.

CP will still have more fans based on GK and the over all experience of the area.   There's nothing SF can do to change this.   It's the over all area that makes destination travelers visit.  

Each of these parks in Texas may have great rides, but the parks are not in resort areas, but attractions on the side of a road.  That's the difference, the over all experience.   When visiting CP, the entire experience is special.

The same thing can be said about SFNJ, they've got a zoo, trying to be like Disney, but they don't have the onsite hotels.   People have to drive from far away, then play $20 to park.   It's not the same as riding Disney buses in Florida.    

 
 
 

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Post by BaSSiStiS » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 07:16:47

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> And Full Throttle goes backwards, just like Gatekeeper.  That means flying into Austin, staying just north, and visiting both SFFT and SFoT.   Or picking which ever city has the lowest airfare and driving between the two.

How many people were hurt in the construction of this paragraph?
 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Brawle » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 08:17:50



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>How many people were hurt in the construction of this paragraph?

All of them.
 
 
 

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:41:07


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> http://content.sixflags.com/newfor2013/
> -I gotta admit that I like the idea of merging the Safari stuff with the theme park at Great Adventure. Lot of potential there.

Since the drive entrance was reworked a couple of years back, where
Safari and Waterpark guests had to turn left way before you even see
the Safari, I've often wondered if attendance had gone down for drive
thru safari guests. If I had never been to the park before, I almost
probably wouldn't have even noticed that there was a safari, or
would've thought it was closed. It used to be that you didn't have to
choose between Safari or theme park until much further up (go straight
for Safari, continue to the right for theme park). Now it looks like
some long closed thing off to the side/in the distance. I don't think
that helped anything but bring down attendance at the safari.

While I respect the tradition of a drive thru safari, I also think
there's potential here, making it like Rhino Rally/Kilomanjaro Safari.
Probably safer for the animals too than having random guests drive
through the animal areas. The last few years, I almost did the ari
conditioned bus tour, since its been forever since I've been thru the
safari, but either ended up not having time to take away from coasters/
rides and/or couldn't convince the people I was with to do it.

Now, Six Flags Great Adventure will be only 2 parks- theme park and
waterpark, as opposed to 3 separate gates. Kind of makes it feels
smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest
theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional
angle, too.

 
 
 

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Post by skiguy77 » Sat, 01 Sep 2012 20:45:00

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> smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest

> theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional

> angle, too.

It doesn't matter what they claim.   The problem with SFNJ isn't the gate entrance, it's the rides not being open when the park does.    I took my family years ago and haven't been back since.    Already told everyone why a bunch of times.   KK wasn't operating, El Toro didn't open until noon, and all the other rides were not operating when the park opened.   It's like the start time for the employees is the same as the park opening, and that's when they test the rides.   Only one train on Superman.   Like they're doing everyone a favor by even being there.  The attendance figures prove what I'm saying, SFNJ fell off the list, below 2.7 million.  

But let's look at the bigger picture.   What city would you fly into in 2 years?    

Los Angeles (SFMM), Austin Texas (SFoT, SFFT), or Newark (SFNJ)?  

Notice I don't say next year.    Why?   Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster.  Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks on it.    

Honestly for me, it's probably going to be Texas, 2 parks plus a visit to Schlitterbahn.    

 
 
 

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Post by CanobieFa » Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:06:23

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> Notice I don't say next year. ? ?Why? ? Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster. ?Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.... Yeah, cedar point always has
their stuff open from the get go.... Dragster, Maverick, Shoot the
Whatever, Windwhatever......

Clearly CP is on a roll.

 
 
 

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Post by surfdan.. » Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:06:47

Honestly, in recent (past few years) experience, Six Flags as a whole has had true act together a lot more than many other park chains.
 
 
 

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Post by ansle » Sun, 02 Sep 2012 03:15:49

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> > smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest

> > theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional

> > angle, too.

> It doesn't matter what they claim.   The problem with SFNJ isn't the gate entrance, it's the rides not being open when the park does.    I took my family years ago and haven't been back since.    Already told everyone why a bunch of times.   KK wasn't operating, El Toro didn't open until noon, and all the other rides were not operating when the park opened.   It's like the start time for the employees is the same as the park opening, and that's when they test the rides.   Only one train on Superman.   Like they're doing everyone a favor by even being there.  The attendance figures prove what I'm saying, SFNJ fell off the list, below 2.7 million.  

> But let's look at the bigger picture.   What city would you fly into in 2 years?    

> Los Angeles (SFMM), Austin Texas (SFoT, SFFT), or Newark (SFNJ)?  

> Notice I don't say next year.    Why?   Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster.  Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks on it.    

> Honestly for me, it's probably going to be Texas, 2 parks plus a visit to Schlitterbahn.

You're big mistake there is flying in Newark!  Fly into Philly, or even Baltimore, and hit Hershey/Knoebels/Dorney/SFGAd and shore parks, Morey's will have a new woodie by then as well.  That is a hell of a good combo of parks.  You can hit SFA too.  Or, you could fly into NYC, or Hartford Ct., and do SFGAD, Coney, Rye, Quassy, Lake Compounce, and SFNE.  Another good bunch of parks...  If you goto Texas you get less.  LA is a good choice if there's anyting new there for you.

Ted

 
 
 

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Post by skiguy77 » Mon, 03 Sep 2012 08:12:24

Quote:


> > > smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest

> > > theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional

> > > angle, too.

> > It doesn't matter what they claim.   The problem with SFNJ isn't the gate entrance, it's the rides not being open when the park does.    I took my family years ago and haven't been back since.    Already told everyone why a bunch of times.   KK wasn't operating, El Toro didn't open until noon, and all the other rides were not operating when the park opened.   It's like the start time for the employees is the same as the park opening, and that's when they test the rides.   Only one train on Superman.   Like they're doing everyone a favor by even being there.  The attendance figures prove what I'm saying, SFNJ fell off the list, below 2.7 million.  

> > But let's look at the bigger picture.   What city would you fly into in 2 years?    

> > Los Angeles (SFMM), Austin Texas (SFoT, SFFT), or Newark (SFNJ)?  

> > Notice I don't say next year.    Why?   Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster.  Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks on it.    

> > Honestly for me, it's probably going to be Texas, 2 parks plus a visit to Schlitterbahn.

> You're big mistake there is flying in Newark!  Fly into Philly, or even Baltimore, and hit Hershey/Knoebels/Dorney/SFGAd and shore parks, Morey's will have a new woodie by then as well.  That is a hell of a good combo of parks.  You can hit SFA too.  Or, you could fly into NYC, or Hartford Ct., and do SFGAD, Coney, Rye, Quassy, Lake Compounce, and SFNE.  Another good bunch of parks...  If you goto Texas you get less.  LA is a good choice if there's anyting new there for you.

> Ted

Right, we flew in Philly the last time.    Newark is more expensive, but closer to SFNJ.     If I do another trip that way, I'll fly into Harrisburg (MDT) and make the Hershey area the base.   They have buses that go from their hotels to the park.   It makes the stay feel like a resort, which it is.   Philly is also good since it's a major airport in the middle, could do that as well.        

I'm flying to Hartford Sunday to visit LC and SFNE.    

I think SF is getting better about opening rides because I *** about it so much.    From what I hear, the suits read this stuff.  They say I'm only one, but others must think the same, because SFNJ dropped off the attendance report, going below 2.7 million visitors.       And I keep talking about the early rides at CP.    SF tries to make their parks look like resorts, but they've got no onsite hotels, and don't have any early rides except at SFoG.  

SFMM - Run to X, what happens, wait 15 minutes while slow dads catch up and cut the line joining their kids.   I'd say something but then it would ruin my day.  It's not fair to those who are first in line.  Have X open when the people jog up to the ride.    

SFNJ - ?   Haven't been back in a few years, don't know if the rides are running when the park opens.   May go next year, but Hershey will be the base, not the SFNJ area.    

 
 
 

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Mon, 03 Sep 2012 08:32:28


Quote:


> > > > smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest

> > > > theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional

> > > > angle, too.

> > > It doesn't matter what they claim. ? The problem with SFNJ isn't the gate entrance, it's the rides not being open when the park does. ? ?I took my family years ago and haven't been back since. ? ?Already told everyone why a bunch of times. ? KK wasn't operating, El Toro didn't open until noon, and all the other rides were not operating when the park opened. ? It's like the start time for the employees is the same as the park opening, and that's when they test the rides. ? Only one train on Superman. ? Like they're doing everyone a favor by even being there. ?The attendance figures prove what I'm saying, SFNJ fell off the list, below 2.7 million.

> > > But let's look at the bigger picture. ? What city would you fly into in 2 years?

> > > Los Angeles (SFMM), Austin Texas (SFoT, SFFT), or Newark (SFNJ)?

> > > Notice I don't say next year. ? ?Why? ? Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster. ?Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks on it.

> > > Honestly for me, it's probably going to be Texas, 2 parks plus a visit to Schlitterbahn.

> > You're big mistake there is flying in Newark! ?Fly into Philly, or even Baltimore, and hit Hershey/Knoebels/Dorney/SFGAd and shore parks, Morey's will have a new woodie by then as well. ?That is a hell of a good combo of parks. ?You can hit SFA too. ?Or, you could fly into NYC, or Hartford Ct., and do SFGAD, Coney, Rye, Quassy, Lake Compounce, and SFNE. ?Another good bunch of parks... ?If you goto Texas you get less. ?LA is a good choice if there's anyting new there for you.

> > Ted

> Right, we flew in Philly the last time. ? ?Newark is more expensive, but closer to SFNJ. ? ? If I do another trip that way, I'll fly into Harrisburg (MDT) and make the Hershey area the base. ? They have buses that go from their hotels to the park. ? It makes the stay feel like a resort, which it is. ? Philly is also good since it's a major airport in the middle, could do that as well.

> I'm flying to Hartford Sunday to visit LC and SFNE.

> I think SF is getting better about opening rides because I *** about it so much. ? ?From what I hear, the suits read this stuff. ?They say I'm only one, but others must think the same, because SFNJ dropped off the attendance report, going below 2.7 million visitors. ? ? ? And I keep talking about the early rides at CP. ? ?SF tries to make their parks look like resorts, but they've got no onsite hotels, and don't have any early rides except at SFoG.

> SFMM - Run to X, what happens, wait 15 minutes while slow dads catch up and cut the line joining their kids. ? I'd say something but then it would ruin my day. ?It's not fair to those who are first in line. ?Have X open when the people jog up to the ride.

> SFNJ - ? ? Haven't been back in a few years, don't know if the rides are running when the park opens. ? May go next year, but Hershey will be the base, not the SFNJ area.

SFNJ- definitely in my visits the past few years (although its only
1-2 visits per year)
 
 
 

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Post by Wolf » Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:11:40

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> -I gotta admit that I like the idea of merging the Safari stuff with the
> theme park at Great Adventure. Lot of > potential there.

I'm a little bummed by that. I always enjoyed the Safari as a standalone.

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Post by Jonathan » Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:38:56

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> > > > smaller. But, they are claiming the theme park will be the largest

> > > > theme park after the merge, so I guess that's a good promotional

> > > > angle, too.

> > > It doesn't matter what they claim.   The problem with SFNJ isn't the gate entrance, it's the rides not being open when the park does.    I took my family years ago and haven't been back since.    Already told everyone why a bunch of times.   KK wasn't operating, El Toro didn't open until noon, and all the other rides were not operating when the park opened.   It's like the start time for the employees is the same as the park opening, and that's when they test the rides.   Only one train on Superman.   Like they're doing everyone a favor by even being there.  The attendance figures prove what I'm saying, SFNJ fell off the list, below 2.7 million.  

> > > But let's look at the bigger picture.   What city would you fly into in 2 years?    

> > > Los Angeles (SFMM), Austin Texas (SFoT, SFFT), or Newark (SFNJ)?  

> > > Notice I don't say next year.    Why?   Because you can't expect the ride to be open unless it's CP and a B&M coaster.  Once again, SF doesn't care if the ride is delayed, and the A-listers and web masters don't call the parks on it.    

> > > Honestly for me, it's probably going to be Texas, 2 parks plus a visit to Schlitterbahn.

> > You're big mistake there is flying in Newark!  Fly into Philly, or even Baltimore, and hit Hershey/Knoebels/Dorney/SFGAd and shore parks, Morey's will have a new woodie by then as well.  That is a hell of a good combo of parks.  You can hit SFA too.  Or, you could fly into NYC, or Hartford Ct., and do SFGAD, Coney, Rye, Quassy, Lake Compounce, and SFNE.  Another good bunch of parks...  If you goto Texas you get less.  LA is a good choice if there's anyting new there for you.

> > Ted

> Right, we flew in Philly the last time.    Newark is more expensive, but closer to SFNJ.     If I do another trip that way, I'll fly into Harrisburg (MDT) and make the Hershey area the base.   They have buses that go from their hotels to the park.   It makes the stay feel like a resort, which it is.   Philly is also good since it's a major airport in the middle, could do that as well.        

> I'm flying to Hartford Sunday to visit LC and SFNE.    

> I think SF is getting better about opening rides because I *** about it so much.    From what I hear, the suits read this stuff.  They say I'm only one, but others must think the same, because SFNJ dropped off the attendance report, going below 2.7 million visitors.       And I keep talking about the early rides at CP.    SF tries to make their parks look like resorts, but they've got no onsite hotels, and don't have any early rides except at SFoG.  

> SFMM - Run to X, what happens, wait 15 minutes while slow dads catch up and cut the line joining their kids.   I'd say something but then it would ruin my day.  It's not fair to those who are first in line.  Have X open when the people jog up to the ride.    

> SFNJ - ?   Haven't been back in a few years, don't know if the rides are running when the park opens.   May go next year, but Hershey will be the base, not the SFNJ area.

If Newark is closer, it's not by much.  They are probably both around an hour away.