Alton Towers, UK

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Mr CB Bayli » Wed, 12 Jan 1994 00:17:57


Apparently, two new coasters are being built for this year.  Antone heard
anything about them - what they are, etc.
 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Eric Griswo » Wed, 12 Jan 1994 04:15:22


Quote:
> Apparently, two new coasters are being built for this year.  Antone heard
> anything about them - what they are, etc.

I remember two coasters of note (other than The Big One) going up in
the UK, one's at Drayton Manor, the other is at Alton Towers, but I
don't remember which goes where:

1. An Intamin standup featuring a standing heartline flip.

2. A B&M inverted, more like Top Gun than BATMAN, in that it covers
terrain rather than hangs out in a bit heap.

--
Eric Griswold


 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Richard Tuck » Wed, 12 Jan 1994 20:59:45

According to First Drop, the Alton Towers B&M inverted will be
called Nemesis, and a big hole in the ground has been excavated
for it to be built in, which will be partly filled up again. So
it should involve riding through solid rock tunnels.

Richard/

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Eric Griswo » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 04:36:47

Quote:



> >I remember two coasters of note (other than The Big One) going up in

>              WHATS THE BIG ONE THEN,AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE?

Please, shouting is quite unnecessary.

It's full name is (ugh) "Pepsi Max: The Big One" and is currently
under construction at Blackpool Pleasure Beach.  It is a large
non-looping steel by Arrow Dynamics, similiar in design to Cedar
Point's Magnum XL-200.  It is a large circle out-and back.

Although Blackpool claims that it will be the tallest coaster in the
world, their measuring standards are bogus.  They claim that The Big
One will be 215' tall, but they are measuring from sea level, not from
the level of the Pleasure Beach.  (If sea level were used for all
coasters, I suspect Denver's "Mister Twister" would be the tallest).
The undisputed record holder for the tallest coaster will soon to be
held by a similar Arrow non-looping steel under construction in Jean,
Nevada, outside of Las Vegas.

In reality, The Big One will be (based on the various things that I've
read), 201' over the Pleasure Beach.  Also, the lowest point of the
coaster will still be about 12' above the Pleasure Beach; the coaster
never actually comes near ground level.  Despite all the odd hype
(which Blackpool is quite practiced at), it looks to be a good ride.

I don't remember the exact opening date, but I think it is around
April.

--
Eric Griswold

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by M.. » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 00:03:15


Quote:

>I remember two coasters of note (other than The Big One) going up in

             WHATS THE BIG ONE THEN,AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE?
Quote:
>the UK, one's at Drayton Manor, the other is at Alton Towers, but I
>don't remember which goes where:

>1. An Intamin standup featuring a standing heartline flip.

>2. A B&M inverted, more like Top Gun than BATMAN, in that it covers
>terrain rather than hangs out in a bit heap.

>--
>Eric Griswold


 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Steven Wils » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 02:40:20

Quote:
>(If sea level were used for all
>coasters, I suspect Denver's "Mister Twister" would be the tallest).

At 7000 feet, Mexico City's coasters should easily beat Denver's.  Does
anyone know of coasters at still higher elevations?

Btw, I see you know the proper name for Elitch's largest coaster.  The
original name is much better than plain "Twister".  I continue to use
the original name, too.  Actually, I have not ridden it since its name
was altered.  I guess that shows that it has been a LONG time since I
was there.


 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Mr CB Bayli » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 21:42:43


: > Apparently, two new coasters are being built for this year.  Antone heard
: > anything about them - what they are, etc.

: I remember two coasters of note (other than The Big One) going up in
: the UK, one's at Drayton Manor, the other is at Alton Towers, but I
: don't remember which goes where:

: 1. An Intamin standup featuring a standing heartline flip.

This is at Drayton Manor.

: 2. A B&M inverted, more like Top Gun than BATMAN, in that it covers
: terrain rather than hangs out in a bit heap.

This must be at Alton Towers.  Thanks.

There are rumours of a second one at Alton Towers.

Chris Bayliss

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Mr CB Bayli » Fri, 14 Jan 1994 21:44:29



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: >I remember two coasters of note (other than The Big One) going up in
:  
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:              WHATS THE BIG ONE THEN,AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE?
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A big one at Blackpool (tallest in uk/eorope/world?).

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Bob Ramst » Sat, 15 Jan 1994 05:31:25

Wait a minute.  I know I've been remiss in keeping on top of this newsgroup, but
this is the first I've heard about a non-looping Arrow steelie under construction
in Jean NV.  Could someone please post more details?


Quote:
(Eric Griswold) writes:

|> The undisputed record holder for the tallest coaster will soon to be
|> held by a similar Arrow non-looping steel under construction in Jean,
|> Nevada, outside of Las Vegas.

--
Bob Ramstad, Pleasure Seeker

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Geoff All » Sat, 15 Jan 1994 09:28:45

Quote:

>Wait a minute.  I know I've been remiss in keeping on top of this newsgroup, but
>this is the first I've heard about a non-looping Arrow steelie under construction
>in Jean NV.  Could someone please post more details?

It's going in a new park called "Gary's Wild Wild West", and it's going
to be similar to Magnum XL-200, only bigger.

Should be worth a trip to Nevada for those of us a little farther away
from Cedar Point or Blackpool!

Geoff "Wishing for some summer trips" Allen

--

Washington State University EE/CS Deptartment sysadmin support guy
Moscow, ID: home of Geoff Allen and world champion decathlete Dan O'Brien
==============================================================================
Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everyone else.
               -- Author unknown

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by Eric Griswo » Sat, 15 Jan 1994 11:08:18


Quote:

> Geoff "Wishing for some summer trips" Allen

This off-season has been particularly difficult in anticipation of all
the cool stuff coming: Raptor, BATMAN at SFMM, the resurrected Crystal
Beach Comet, the Magnum clone in Nevada, The Hurler, La Montana Rusa
...

Fortunately, nearby, SCBB is always there for a fix, but lately, it
just hasn't been doing it.

I think the decidedly un-winter-like weather (even by California
standards) this year has caused me to keep looking out my door asking
the skies "Is it coaster season yet?"

*sigh*

--
Eric Griswold

 
 
 

Alton Towers, UK

Post by David B. Hempli » Sun, 16 Jan 1994 06:04:06

Quote:

>Wait a minute.  I know I've been remiss in keeping on top of this newsgroup, but
>this is the first I've heard about a non-looping Arrow steelie under construction
>in Jean NV.  Could someone please post more details?

A fellow ACEr and I drove to Vegas for New Year's. As we came over the
hill and out of San Bernadino County on I-15 at night, we could see
three islands of light. The first pool of glitter marks StateLine
(or BorderTown if you believe the AAA map). The second glowing
oasis is Jean, 10 miles down I-15 from StateLine. ~20 miles further is
the edge of Las Vegas.

StateLine and Jean are very similar. Both have two large hotels
that face eachother on either side of I-15. That's all there is
to these two "towns" - just two large hotels with ***s and
parking lots, and maybe a gas station. Between the towns is
nothing but I-15 and flat desert.

StateLine is home to Wiskey Pete's and the Primadona Hotels.
A third *** and hotel are being built by Primadona. This
is where the coaster is going. As of the New Year's Weekend,
the first quarter of the lift hill can be seen rising from
the iron girder frame of what will become the new ***.
There are some pieces of the yellow track near the construction
worker's trailer camp nearby. There wasn't a lot of track there
when we saw it. About half a dozen pieces of slightly curved
track.

At the Primadona is a model of the coaster/*** and small
theme park planned. The model isn't the best but it gives a
better idea of what happens after the first drop than those
pictures we've seen in the trade papers and ACE publications.
For the most part, the track comes out of the first drop and
into a wide, tilted 270 degree turn to the left. The middle of
this turn comprises the second hill. The track comes out
of that turn and then (from the looks of the model) does nothing
all that interesting - lots of little turns and small hills. It might
turn out to be something like the small hills on Magnum but
the model looked too flat for any good air time. Like I said, the
model track wasn't all that great.

Does anyone know why the word on this coaster is that it's going up
in Jean and not StateLine?

dave