Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Post by kipros » Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:12:50


Saw this linked from a couple sites:

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/680857.html

Sold to a land developer.

-kipross

 
 
 

Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Post by Shawn Mamr » Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:33:37

Quote:

>Saw this linked from a couple sites:

>http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/680857.html

>Sold to a land developer.

Man, that blows...

The article (and the park's website) indicate that they'll still be
operating this year.  Can anyone confirm that?  That'll at least give
us a chance at a last (and, for some of us, first) visit there.

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Crowthe » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:59:18



Quote:

> >Saw this linked from a couple sites:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> >Sold to a land developer.

> Man, that blows...

> The article (and the park's website) indicate that they'll still be
> operating this year.  Can anyone confirm that?  That'll at least give
> us a chance at a last (and, for some of us, first) visit there.

> -Shawn Mamros
> E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

Oh..do not get me started.....Great, another strip mall or more condos.
We are losing our soul as a nation- there are already thousands of
cookie-cutter developments like the one that is likely to replace
Miracle Strip, but we need yet another- at the expense of the funky,
charming and unique place that is Miracle Strip. But we Americans, we
would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
restaurant down the block. Go to a nice small park....no, I would rather
shop at the exact same store that is in 25 locations in my home town-
and if I want an amu***t park experience, I will go to one of the five
remaining mega-parks left in the country (after the last of the
traditional parks closes)- drive 500 miles, pay $100 a person, and wait
in two hour long lines.

Losing hope-

Matt

 
 
 

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Post by Walt Breymie » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:50:42

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:59:18 GMT, Matt Crowther

Quote:

>But we Americans, we
>would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
>restaurant down the block.

  Damn right. Red Lobster Ultimate Fondue rocks!

        Walt Breymier

 
 
 

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Post by Al » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 02:33:01

3rd Mall from the Sun   :)

 
 
 

Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Post by Keith Hopkin » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:07:37


Quote:
> Oh..do not get me started.....

Whoops!  Too late.

Quote:
> But we Americans, we
> would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
> restaurant down the block.

Quite frankly, I've found that Red Lobster has far better food than the
family owned restaurant down the block.  There are exceptions, of course,
but most of the non-chain restaurants I've been in have been pretty
mediocre.

--
Keith "Contributing to Generica" Hopkins

"If Disney had its way, at the end of every DVD the player would
 connect to the internet and dump you in a gift shop."
          Stolen from a Slashdot thread

 
 
 

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Post by Keith Hopkin » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:09:00


Quote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:59:18 GMT, Matt Crowther

> >But we Americans, we
> >would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
> >restaurant down the block.

>   Damn right. Red Lobster Ultimate Fondue rocks!

Fred and I saw that last Saturday, at the table next to us.  I don't know
why they put it in the appetizer section of the menu.  It looks big enough
to be a meal for two.

--
Keith "I had the Ultimate Feast" Hopkins

"If Disney had its way, at the end of every DVD the player would
 connect to the internet and dump you in a gift shop."
          Stolen from a Slashdot thread

 
 
 

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Post by Locobo » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:11:52

Quote:

> Oh..do not get me started.....Great, another strip mall or more condos.
> We are losing our soul as a nation- there are already thousands of
> cookie-cutter developments like the one that is likely to replace
> Miracle Strip, but we need yet another- at the expense of the funky,
> charming and unique place that is Miracle Strip. But we Americans, we
> would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
> restaurant down the block. Go to a nice small park....no, I would rather
> shop at the exact same store that is in 25 locations in my home town-
> and if I want an amu***t park experience, I will go to one of the five
> remaining mega-parks left in the country (after the last of the
> traditional parks closes)- drive 500 miles, pay $100 a person, and wait
> in two hour long lines.

> Losing hope-

> Matt

Thank goodness the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk is just a short drive away
from me.
 
 
 

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Post by K966 » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:06:46


indicate that they'll still be
operating this year.  Can anyone confirm that? >><BR><BR>

A friend of mine talked to the parks GM today. He said the last operating day
would be Labor Day '04.

A truly sad, sad day.

Ken

 
 
 

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Post by agne » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:09:50

Quote:


> > Oh..do not get me started.....Great, another strip mall or more condos.
> > We are losing our soul as a nation- there are already thousands of
> > cookie-cutter developments like the one that is likely to replace
> > Miracle Strip, but we need yet another- at the expense of the funky,
> > charming and unique place that is Miracle Strip. But we Americans, we
> > would rather eat at the Red Lobster than at the nice family owned
> > restaurant down the block. Go to a nice small park....no, I would rather
> > shop at the exact same store that is in 25 locations in my home town-
> > and if I want an amu***t park experience, I will go to one of the five
> > remaining mega-parks left in the country (after the last of the
> > traditional parks closes)- drive 500 miles, pay $100 a person, and wait
> > in two hour long lines.

> > Losing hope-

> > Matt

> Thank goodness the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk is just a short drive away
> from me.

Everybody who can ought to patronize the SC Beach Boardwalk *now* so it
won't get the 'paved and put up a parking lot' treatment...

agnes
*Just reply here please...thanks :)

 
 
 

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Post by Todd Lon » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:34:39

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:59:18 GMT, Matt Crowther

Quote:

>Oh..do not get me started.....Great, another strip mall or more condos.
>We are losing our soul as a nation- there are already thousands of
>cookie-cutter developments like the one that is likely to replace
>Miracle Strip, but we need yet another- at the expense of the funky,
>charming and unique place that is Miracle Strip.

The article mentioned the park wasn't profitable anymore. I'm betting
the property tax and insurance rates have went up quite a bit over the
last few years. Can't blame anyone for not holding onto a business
that is draining them. As for what the property is going to be used
for, oh well. Whatever is going in there will be something that
generates enough income to make a profit.

As for blaming anyone for going to corporate parks and stores, hey if
the general public sees a better value and better time then that is
where they will go. We enthusiasts aren't the normal customer and our
dollars don't add up to shit at the end of the day.

Don't think I don't think it blows the park is going away. I do. But
like most people I haven't bothered to get there and up until today
didn't see much of a reason to. I'm betting the locals there and
tourists feel the same way.

Todd "know about waterfront property, taxes and insurance" Long

Just one of my rave reviews - "what an Idoit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 
 
 

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Post by Keith Hopkin » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:46:21


Quote:
> Todd "know about waterfront property, taxes and insurance" Long

I didn't know that swamp land counted as waterfront property.  Do your yard
balls count as "Architectural detail"?

--
Keith "he said yard balls" Hopkins

"If Disney had its way, at the end of every DVD the player would
 connect to the internet and dump you in a gift shop."
          Stolen from a Slashdot thread

 
 
 

Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Post by Coastnli » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:46:05

Well now I'm really glad I made it down to the park 2 years ago.  I had a
feeling then it wouldn't be around forever.
One thing I didn't understand was why the park never operated during the
college Spring Break season.  I understand that there would be some worry about
rowdy kids, but nonetheless Panama City Beach explodes (figuratively) during
March.  I would think that with the right promotion and events they would have
been able to draw a good number of spring breakers and take in more cash.  The
only time I was in Panama City Beach was for my fraternity's formal, in April
two years ago.  Fortunately, it was the first or second weekend of operation
for the park.  Spring Break was over, and PCB overall was quiet, and the park
uncrowded.  I don't know what PCB is like in the summer, but wonder if it's as
packed as it is during the March spring break season.

David

Quote:

>website)
>indicate that they'll still be
>operating this year.  Can anyone confirm that? >>

>A friend of mine talked to the parks GM today. He said the last operating
>daywould be Labor Day '04.A truly sad, sad day.Ken

 
 
 

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Post by Shawn Mamr » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:02:41

Quote:


>> Thank goodness the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk is just a short drive away
>> from me.

>Everybody who can ought to patronize the SC Beach Boardwalk *now* so it
>won't get the 'paved and put up a parking lot' treatment...

While I do agree with you that SCBB is well worth a visit (or two, or ten!),
it's worth pointing out that they're actually quite healthy, attendance-wise.
Amu***t Business estimated their annual take at three million patrons (!)
last year, a figure that many a Six Flags park would kill to see.  Their
closest competition, PGA, drew less than two-thirds of that amount.

Granted, one never knows what the future holds, and even successful parks
have been known to close down when lucrative offers from developers were
dangled under their owners' noses.  But I wouldn't be overly worried
about SCBB's immediate future, certainly not in comparison to that of
many, many other independent parks (seaside or otherwise).

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

 
 
 

Bye bye, Miracle Strip, Florida

Post by DeadAndRestle » Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:05:19

Quote:
>Saw this linked from a couple sites:

>http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/680857.html

>Sold to a land developer.

Well, that sucks, especially since I never made it.

However, being realistic, let's think about the place's flaws and why it didn't
survive:

1) This is with a bullet. Terrible operating schedule. We've all heard the
stories about people going there on Saturdays in July and finding the park
closed only to see it open on Tuesday the following week, even when they were
told it would be operating. There wasn't a hard schedule that anyone ever had
access to until last year. If anything, this was the deciding factor. How can
anyone plan to go to a park when they don't even know if its open?

2) Ride selection. I love classic rides like anyone, but you gotta build new
stuff once in awhile too. Knoebels has how many new flat rides in the last
decade?

3) Spring Break. They skipped it entirely. And they wonder why Waterville USA
(which is from most reports typically a ghost town) is still open and they
aren't. Panama City is infested with college kids, who, while drunk and
occasionally disorderly, SPEND MONEY. The fact that group buyouts have had open
bars at virtually every other park on earth never prevented them from keeping
the events safe and their guests happy (and spending dough). But Miracle Strip,
for whatever reason, didn't want to. And if they want to miss out on a week of
beyond full capacity, well, that was their call, and its now their funeral.

4) Costs. Insurance in this industry has skyrocketed. Not only that, they have
property that could just as easily be used for a hotel or resort and would be
more profitable year round. Sometimes, sad as it is, you have to take your
losses. For the owner, I'm sure he'd rather stay out of the poor house than go
down with his sinking ship (in this case, the park).

-
 Alan