MF is one bad MF!!!

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by Steven Wilso » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>  I will try to keep this short.

> I just got back from AAA day at CP. The main reason I was there (as well as
> 66,000 other people) was to try out the new Millennium  Force.

Thanks for the report, Sean!  Can't wait!

Also, I checked out Iain's videos.  Cool!  Hmmm, it seems like only a
week ago, a lot of those same people in the videos were out here riding
coasters with me.  :-)

Steven


 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by Sean Flahart » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

 I will try to keep this short.

I just got back from AAA day at CP. The main reason I was there (as well as
66,000 other people) was to try out the new Millennium  Force.

 I won't go into a full TR because I know there will probably be a TON of
them later tonight.

 Here is what I thought of the ride.

 The first time I saw how fast the train moves up the lift hill,  I almost
soiled myself.  You won't believe it!

 The early morning test runs were a bit deceiving. The train barely made it
around the course. There was only one person riding in the train at that
time.

 I was with a few of RRCer's including Mark McKenzie, Steve Nuss, and Todd
Long during my first ride.  Yes, Todd surprised the hell out of everyone
once again by showing up. Cindy Stout, Shawn McLaughlin, Dave Sandborg, rode
before us in the back of the train.

 Mark, Todd, Steve, and myself decided to wait for the front seat for our
first ride.  The only problem was that the wait was an hour and a half for
the front.  No problem.  I was sure it would be worth it.

 After we waited out turn,  Mark and I climbed into the front seat. From the
front, you can't see the top of the lift.  When the train dispatches, it
crawls up very slowly for about 15 feet. This is where we got our first view
of the STEEP lift from the train.

 The train then picks up some amazing speed and begins it's 22 second climb
to 310 feet!! Yep! Only 22 seconds! You won't believe how fast that lift is.
It's a ride in itself.  You don't have time to get scared although Mark and
I were shaking while I was saying some choice words.

 While going over the top, this is what I said out loud,

" Boy, it sure does not look like a 300-foot drop. Oh wait. That's the climb
up to the next hill.  What THE F&%K is THAT? OH MY GOD!!  OH MAN!"

 That is when I realized just how steep and long that first drop is.  It is
EASILY the best first drop I have ever gone down.  It looks like it is 90
degrees instead of 82 degrees. The ride down is incredible. It seems to last
forever.  The pull out does not produce the crushing g's I thought it would
but that's a good thing.

 The train shoots up into the first 122-degree overbanked turn. The train
seems to lose NO speed as it goes into this element. It is really a scary
moment of the ride.

 The train dives out of the curve, heading for the ground while curving
left, and passes through a tunnel that went by so fast, I almost didn't even
realize we went through it.

The rise up into the 182-foot hill was amazing.  Mark and I were ejected
from our seats and both turned and looked at each other. We could not
believe the airtime we had just gotten.  It lasts all the way down the other
side of the drop.

 We were now on the island.  There is a tight curve that felt almost like
another 122-degree overbanked turn but it wasn't.  That element was next.
The second overbanked turn lets the riders on the left side of the train,
experience what the right side riders experienced on the first overbanked
turn.

 The trains then tears out of the element and heads up into another huge
hill. This time, providing some more amazing air.  From that hill, we flew
through another tunnel (which has the cameras set up for Hot Shots) and into
the small bunny hop.  This bunny hop provides amazing ejector seat airtime.
It really surprised us.

 From there, it is a slight curve that leads into the final overbanked turn
which is directly above the MASSIVE queue area.  The train then heads into
the brakes for a very smooth stop.

 I was blown away.  I have been following the ride since the ground
breaking, done two construction tours,  and checked out cedarpoint.com on
almost a daily basis, but NOTHING will prepare you for a ride on that
sucker.

 It is easily, IMO, the best ride at Cedar Point.  Mark, however, felt
differently.  He did not make a sound during the ride and as we got off the
ride, I think I heard him mumble something like, " Been there. Done that".
I don't know why, but he seemed like he was really disappointed about the
ride.  I personally thought it was best ride I have EVER gotten on any
coaster at CP, while Mark just seemed to walk away calmly and did not  look
back.  Sorry you didn't like it Mark.  I sure did! I am not certain, but I
think Steve and Todd liked it a bit also.  I can't wait to read Mark's TR to
find out what he did not like about the ride.

 I wanted to ride again but the line had reached 4 hours!!!!

 I talked with others that had ridden in the back seat and they were kind of
disappointed because they did not get a lot of air.  I think this might be a
front seat ride.  Next time, I am going for seat 1.2 (my favorite on
Superman at SFDL).  I will try the back also and see how it compares.

 The slogan for MF is  "The future is riding on it!"

 If that is the case, then I am going back to the future for another ride
VERY soon.  Congrats CP! You have another winner on your hands!

--

Sean (who is all about going down that amazing 300 first drop) Flaharty

Irishcoast's Homepage
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7332

 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by FunTyp » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>  I will try to keep this short.

> I just got back from AAA day at CP. The main reason I was there (as well as
> 66,000 other people) was to try out the new Millennium  Force.

>  I won't go into a full TR because I know there will probably be a TON of
> them later tonight.

>  Here is what I thought of the ride.

>  The first time I saw how fast the train moves up the lift hill,  I almost
> soiled myself.  You won't believe it!

>  The early morning test runs were a bit deceiving. The train barely made it
> around the course. There was only one person riding in the train at that
> time.

>  I was with a few of RRCer's including Mark McKenzie,

Did you get to blindfold Mark ??

Quote:
> I personally thought it was best ride I have EVER gotten on any
> coaster at CP, while Mark just seemed to walk away calmly and did not  look
> back.  Sorry you didn't like it Mark.  I sure did! I am not certain, but I
> think Steve and Todd liked it a bit also.  I can't wait to read Mark's TR to
> find out what he did not like about the ride.

Maybe has was still High on all the world class wood over the last few weeks.

--

Chris Murray
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Post by Flar » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for a really good synopsis of the ride Sean!!! MUCH appreciated... And
it's funny what you said about the train *crawling* through the course in the
morning. The same thing seemed to happen at SFNE with S:RoS on Friday. A bunch
of RRCers were looking at one another with concern on their face, as
in...*Hmmmm...looks like it's going a little slow...* But that was the *empty
train, morning* syndrome... The ride was, like yours, ANYTHING but
slow...lol...

Just one question though: MF...you're new #1 steel???? lol...It's not a trick
question. I'm just curious... :-)

Dave

Quote:

>  I will try to keep this short.

> I just got back from AAA day at CP. The main reason I was there (as well as
> 66,000 other people) was to try out the new Millennium  Force.

>  I won't go into a full TR because I know there will probably be a TON of
> them later tonight.

>  Here is what I thought of the ride.

>  The first time I saw how fast the train moves up the lift hill,  I almost
> soiled myself.  You won't believe it!

>  The early morning test runs were a bit deceiving. The train barely made it
> around the course. There was only one person riding in the train at that
> time.

>  I was with a few of RRCer's including Mark McKenzie, Steve Nuss, and Todd
> Long during my first ride.  Yes, Todd surprised the hell out of everyone
> once again by showing up. Cindy Stout, Shawn McLaughlin, Dave Sandborg, rode
> before us in the back of the train.

>  Mark, Todd, Steve, and myself decided to wait for the front seat for our
> first ride.  The only problem was that the wait was an hour and a half for
> the front.  No problem.  I was sure it would be worth it.

>  After we waited out turn,  Mark and I climbed into the front seat. From the
> front, you can't see the top of the lift.  When the train dispatches, it
> crawls up very slowly for about 15 feet. This is where we got our first view
> of the STEEP lift from the train.

>  The train then picks up some amazing speed and begins it's 22 second climb
> to 310 feet!! Yep! Only 22 seconds! You won't believe how fast that lift is.
> It's a ride in itself.  You don't have time to get scared although Mark and
> I were shaking while I was saying some choice words.

>  While going over the top, this is what I said out loud,

> " Boy, it sure does not look like a 300-foot drop. Oh wait. That's the climb
> up to the next hill.  What THE F&%K is THAT? OH MY GOD!!  OH MAN!"

>  That is when I realized just how steep and long that first drop is.  It is
> EASILY the best first drop I have ever gone down.  It looks like it is 90
> degrees instead of 82 degrees. The ride down is incredible. It seems to last
> forever.  The pull out does not produce the crushing g's I thought it would
> but that's a good thing.

>  The train shoots up into the first 122-degree overbanked turn. The train
> seems to lose NO speed as it goes into this element. It is really a scary
> moment of the ride.

>  The train dives out of the curve, heading for the ground while curving
> left, and passes through a tunnel that went by so fast, I almost didn't even
> realize we went through it.

> The rise up into the 182-foot hill was amazing.  Mark and I were ejected
> from our seats and both turned and looked at each other. We could not
> believe the airtime we had just gotten.  It lasts all the way down the other
> side of the drop.

>  We were now on the island.  There is a tight curve that felt almost like
> another 122-degree overbanked turn but it wasn't.  That element was next.
> The second overbanked turn lets the riders on the left side of the train,
> experience what the right side riders experienced on the first overbanked
> turn.

>  The trains then tears out of the element and heads up into another huge
> hill. This time, providing some more amazing air.  From that hill, we flew
> through another tunnel (which has the cameras set up for Hot Shots) and into
> the small bunny hop.  This bunny hop provides amazing ejector seat airtime.
> It really surprised us.

>  From there, it is a slight curve that leads into the final overbanked turn
> which is directly above the MASSIVE queue area.  The train then heads into
> the brakes for a very smooth stop.

>  I was blown away.  I have been following the ride since the ground
> breaking, done two construction tours,  and checked out cedarpoint.com on
> almost a daily basis, but NOTHING will prepare you for a ride on that
> sucker.

>  It is easily, IMO, the best ride at Cedar Point.  Mark, however, felt
> differently.  He did not make a sound during the ride and as we got off the
> ride, I think I heard him mumble something like, " Been there. Done that".
> I don't know why, but he seemed like he was really disappointed about the
> ride.  I personally thought it was best ride I have EVER gotten on any
> coaster at CP, while Mark just seemed to walk away calmly and did not  look
> back.  Sorry you didn't like it Mark.  I sure did! I am not certain, but I
> think Steve and Todd liked it a bit also.  I can't wait to read Mark's TR to
> find out what he did not like about the ride.

>  I wanted to ride again but the line had reached 4 hours!!!!

>  I talked with others that had ridden in the back seat and they were kind of
> disappointed because they did not get a lot of air.  I think this might be a
> front seat ride.  Next time, I am going for seat 1.2 (my favorite on
> Superman at SFDL).  I will try the back also and see how it compares.

>  The slogan for MF is  "The future is riding on it!"

>  If that is the case, then I am going back to the future for another ride
> VERY soon.  Congrats CP! You have another winner on your hands!

> --

> Sean (who is all about going down that amazing 300 first drop) Flaharty

> Irishcoast's Homepage
> http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7332

 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by Sean Flahart » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Did you get to blindfold Mark ??

 Nope. Mark showed up just a bit late so he cheated and peaked before I
caught up with him.  After seeing the ride run, the blindfold thing was not
a priority.  Sorry Mark. =:^)

--

Sean

Irishcoast's Homepage
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7332

 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by Sean Flahart » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Thanks for a really good synopsis of the ride Sean!!! MUCH appreciated...

Well, thank you.

 And

Quote:
> it's funny what you said about the train *crawling* through the course in
the
> morning. The same thing seemed to happen at SFNE with S:RoS on Friday. A
bunch
> of RRCers were looking at one another with concern on their face, as
> in...*Hmmmm...looks like it's going a little slow...*

That is what we all did also. I mean, it looked slow but it probably was
going faster than what we thought it was.

 But that was the *empty

Quote:
> train, morning* syndrome... The ride was, like yours, ANYTHING but
> slow...lol...

Exactly!

Quote:
> Just one question though: MF...you're new #1 steel???? lol...It's not a
trick
> question. I'm just curious... :-)

 Well, I no longer rate coasters but I will say that only after one ride, I
think MF is the best coaster at CP.

   I will be riding it more on Thursday and will get to try out different
seats to confirm my reason why I like it so much, but as of right now, it is
easily the best coaster I have ridden within the last two weeks.  =:^)

 It is the smoothest coaster I have ever been on.

 The list of new for 2000 steel coasters I have ridden within the last two
weeks is :

 Goliath
 Stealth
 Batman Knight Flight
 Superman: Ultimate Escape
 Medusa (SFMW)
 Cobra

  In my opinion, MF provides the overall best ride. The positive g forces
are not that extreme on MF (ride S:UE for that) but it provides a feel that
I love. It's nothing but a fun ride all the way IMO.

  Superman was great also. Batman was amazing as well.   All the California
steel coasters were awesome too.  Each of the new coasters has something
good to offer.

 Maybe I thought MF was going to be less spectacular than what it is.  I am
not sure.  The drop was INSANE but the ride offers so much more.  Try it in
the front car for a really good ride!

--

Sean

Irishcoast's Homepage
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7332

 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by ShiveringTi » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>  The list of new for 2000 steel coasters I have ridden within the last two
> weeks is :

>  Goliath
>  Stealth
>  Batman Knight Flight
>  Superman: Ultimate Escape
>  Medusa (SFMW)
>  Cobra

>   In my opinion, MF provides the overall best ride. The positive g forces
> are not that extreme on MF (ride S:UE for that) but it provides a feel
that
> I love. It's nothing but a fun ride all the way IMO.

>   Superman was great also. Batman was amazing as well.   All the
California
> steel coasters were awesome too.  Each of the new coasters has something
> good to offer.

>  Maybe I thought MF was going to be less spectacular than what it is.  I
am
> not sure.  The drop was INSANE but the ride offers so much more.  Try it
in
> the front car for a really good ride!

You mean that Cobra at SFMW isn't better than MF???  :)

Scott W. Short

http://welcome.to/midwestcoastercentral

 
 
 

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Post by Flar » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>  Well, I no longer rate coasters but I will say that only after one ride, I
> think MF is the best coaster at CP.

That's a REALLY smart move... I'm thinking the same thing... But then you start
wondering which to list first when people ask you what your favorites
are...lol.. :-)

Dave

 
 
 

MF is one bad MF!!!

Post by Dave Sandbo » Tue, 09 May 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>  I talked with others that had ridden in the back seat and they were kind of
> disappointed because they did not get a lot of air.  I think this might be a
> front seat ride.  Next time, I am going for seat 1.2 (my favorite on
> Superman at SFDL).  I will try the back also and see how it compares.

Yes, at this point I wouldn't put MF as even above Magnum, based on my back
seat experience.  I'll piggyback on your post to give my own impressions.

Visual impact:  CP does it again!  They *always* know how to present a
ride, from the Corkscrew swooping over the midway to this.  They weren't
kidding about changing the skyline of the park forever.  And the sight of
the train zooming up that lift is a wonder to behold.  This must be what
people thought of Magnum not all that long ago...and before that, Gemini.

The wait:  I am glad I used the Marina Gate trick to get to the ride
faster.  Even so, we were beaten by some folks running all the way down the
midway...then we gave up our spot in line to join up with Mark and company
anyway.  I don't like the loose article policy.  I see why they're doing
it, but it's really going to cause problems.  I don't think there are going
to be enough lockers to hold everybody's stuff...unless they use the trash
cans.  However, I did learn that waist packs are OK.  At first, I thought
they weren't, and I would really be lambasting the park if that had been
the case.

The station:  I like the look a lot.  Did anybody else notice that dancing
projected logo?  I thought it was kind of cool.  It's better laid out than
Magnum's (wouldn't be hard!).  I can see if people want to wait for the
back, it will cause some jam-ups.  But most seemed to go for the front,
where there was a *huge* line.

The lift:  I assume that the crawling of the train onto the lift at the
outset will be fixed later on.  Once it gets going, though, it is just
incredibly fast.    It wouldn't totally surprise me if this would win a
race with the Cedar Creek Mine Ride lift!  On the other hand, you barely
have time to consider your fate on the way up.  The trip up was over before
I knew it.

The drop:  Wow!  Easily the best part of the ride in back.  In fact, the
best steel first drop I've ever experienced, with no close competitors.
That was worth the wait alone (but I didn't wait 4 hours!).  My lap
restraint was a bit close, so I didn't get to experience the full airtime,
but I could tell it was there, all of it.

The first turn:  I wasn't expecting much from this, but I liked it quite a bit!

The rest of the ride:  After this, though, I found myself let down.  I did
yell my lungs out--it just seemed like the thing to do--and no doubt the
ride was incredibly fast.  But I need more than speed from a ride, and this
didn't deliver what I wanted.

Now, I desperately want to ride in front (or, more likely, the second
seat), to experience what Sean and everybody else got.  But I wasn't going
to wait in that long of a line for it...particularly since I'll be back
next weekend to try the Marina Gate trick again two days running.

By the way, I had a fine day otherwise.  The park was much more crowded
than expected, because it wasn't just "AAA day" after all...two other
companies had the park as well.  Far from exclusive.  But under
circumstances like this, you just have to "work the park."  And the company
was good, as always.  That last Disaster Transport ride (you know it's a
weird day when you get two rides apiece on this and Wildcat, but only one
on Raptor) was terrific fun.

One last note:  Kudos go out to the season pass office.  They weren't
supposed to be open at all that day, but they processed mine anyway.
Thanks!

--
Dave Sandborg
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Post by FlyerAC » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>>  Well, I no longer rate coasters but I will say that only after one ride, I
>> think MF is the best coaster at CP.

>That's a REALLY smart move... I'm thinking the same thing... But then you
>start
>wondering which to list first when people ask you what your favorites
>are...lol.. :-)

>Dave

Thanks for the report, Sean! It's funny, I keep getting different reports on MF
and many of them vary per where the person sat. It sounds like front is best.

Dave, I don't know about you but I'm thinking it's going to be VERY tough to
beat SFNE's Superman and I think just about everyone who rode it this past
weekend will agree with me.

I will say, though, that everyone kept imagining what it would be like to
continue 100+ feet higher up Superman's lift hill and *everyone* was freaking
out just thinking about it!

I get my first ride on MF in like 12 days and will reserve judgement til then
BUT right now I'd say that I'm scared of anything that could possibly be better
than Superman! It seems almost impossible!

                         Live to Ride,
                           Adam Revesz

 
 
 

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Post by Thom » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

Dave,

That was a great post - very informative - and very well written.

Thanks

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Thom » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

Adam,

SFNE's Superman is that good? I can't believe it could be better than SFDL
Superman - One can only hope!!

I'm checking it out Friday and can NOT wait - thanks for the TR

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Shawn Mamr » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00


[lots of stuff snipped...]

Quote:
>[...]  I don't like the loose article policy.  I see why they're doing
>it, but it's really going to cause problems.  I don't think there are going
>to be enough lockers to hold everybody's stuff...unless they use the trash
>cans.  However, I did learn that waist packs are OK.  At first, I thought
>they weren't, and I would really be lambasting the park if that had been
>the case.

*phew* - big sigh of relief there!  After seeing Tim's post, I was
concerned that my waist pack wouldn't be allowed on MF.  Glad to hear
it's not a problem!

(I only started doing the "*** pack" thing a couple seasons ago, after
losing keys at BGT - fortunately, I did get the keys back at the end of
the day, but it was a scary enough experience that I do not want a repeat
of that incident, ever.  Keys go in the pack, pack stays with me, no
further worries - simple as that.)

-Shawn Mamros

 
 
 

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Post by Daryl F. Berna » Wed, 10 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>>  I talked with others that had ridden in the back seat and they were kind
>of
>> disappointed because they did not get a lot of air.  I think this might be
>a
>> front seat ride.  Next time, I am going for seat 1.2 (my favorite on
>> Superman at SFDL).  I will try the back also and see how it compares.

>Yes, at this point I wouldn't put MF as even above Magnum, based on my back
>seat experience.

I rode the back seat, and since I wasn't expecting airtime at all, I thoroughly
enjoyed it. When I first got in line, I was planning on the front seat. Then,
after waiting so long, and seeing the look on the faces of people in EVERY
seat, I decided it didn't matter to me that much.
Then, when we finally entered the station, there was only two pairs in the back
seat line. It was a guy with a SRM t-shirt on (didn't get his name) and his
girlfriend (I assume). We talked a few minutes, about Legend, SRM, and MF. He
was absolutely juiced when he climbed aboard!

I thought the ride was incredible.

Next time (May 19), however, front seat!

Daryl F. Bernard
A.C.E., C.O.S.T.

Shivering Timbers ride count: 58

upcoming trips:
May 7 - Cedar Point
May 19 - Cedar Point
May 27 - Michigan's Adventure
May 31 - Paramount's Kings Island
June 3-4 - Cedar Point

 
 
 

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Post by Runaway Mine Trai » Thu, 11 May 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 08 May 2000 00:28:08 GMT, "Sean Flaharty"

Quote:

> It is easily, IMO, the best ride at Cedar Point.  Mark, however, felt
>differently.  He did not make a sound during the ride and as we got off the
>ride, I think I heard him mumble something like, " Been there. Done that".
>I don't know why, but he seemed like he was really disappointed about the
>ride.  I personally thought it was best ride I have EVER gotten on any
>coaster at CP, while Mark just seemed to walk away calmly and did not  look
>back.  Sorry you didn't like it Mark.  I sure did! I am not certain, but I
>think Steve and Todd liked it a bit also.  I can't wait to read Mark's TR to
>find out what he did not like about the ride.

I am SO over that ride!  My hands finally stopped shaking last night
and I'm pretty sure my heart rate has returned to normal as well.

Millennium Force: It's a big pickle.  

Mark-
who knows Sean won't be over it until gets to ride with Mr. Pickle

       Today for you, tomorrow for me

                  RunawayMT

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