TR: Knott's & The Rat Trap 04-01-00

TR: Knott's & The Rat Trap 04-01-00

Post by Rollrcst » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00


This is just a short TR since both parks were really crowded.

Knott's
 Ghostrider...80 min wait for back seat...1 ride...this was the first time I
have been able to ride Ghostrider during the day (my two previous rides were at
KSF and my unofficial visit to KCS) and until now, it was behind the SCBB Giant
Dipper for #1 wood, but after this ride, it is now my favorite wooden coaster.
Upon exiting the ride I found that they had placed a basket full of Ghostrider
wood in the store so I had to buy a piece (By the end of the day my shins were
black and blue).  

 Jaguar...30 min wait...1 ride...my first time on this ride and I think its a
cool ride but I just couldn't stop laughing through the entire ride.  The only
other Tivoli coaster I have been on is the Orient Express (not sure if that is
really the name) in Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen and I thought that ride was a
little better just because it is powered through the entire course and gives
you three trips around.

  Montezuma's Revenge...20 min wait...1 ride...much better than GLTCFKATW at
PGA (I have never had airtime in the back seat on the rear tower at PGA).  I
have been trying to ride this every time and I never seem to be able to.

I then got lunch at the chicken place and then took the bus to Disneyland
(hereafter known as The Rat Trap)

The Rat Trap
  Construction note...all the new ticket booths are open and at night, the
Mickey  Mouse logos on top are pretty colors

  Innoventions...no wait...uuhhh....ok...whatever...the speech thingie by a
cast member named Ali for the home of the future was great.  Amusingly enough,
the little clock in the house set (it was one of the waving wands that makes
green letters as it waves back and forth) had little messages about how you
should fool somebody today and stuff like that.

  Tarzan's Treehouse...uuuhhh yeah...it looks great until you see the giant
plastic action figures for the Tarzan characters...oh well...just another sign
Imagineering is going down the drain (first rocket rods, then this...what will
they think of next, an amu***t park themed to places within an hour's drive
of the park...)

  Pirates of the big body of water in between the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf
of Mexico...35 min wait...1 ride...I love this ride...and I got the back seat
to myself...too bad I didn't have someone to share it with...

And that was it for the day...(aren't season passes great)

The best ride of the day was probably the 4+hours spent on public
transportation (Metro) and the shock of finding out that the Disneyland/LA
Convention Center (and Staples Center) Bus no longer goes all the way to the
convention center but instead leaves you in a very interesting neighborhood a
couple of blocks away (I didn't know I could run that fast)

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TR: Knott's & The Rat Trap 04-01-00

Post by Iain Hendr » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00


Quote:
>other Tivoli coaster I have been on is the Orient Express (not sure if that
is
>really the name) in Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen and I thought that ride
was a
>little better just because it is powered through the entire course and
gives
>you three trips around.

Oooooo, want.

Quote:
>The best ride of the day was probably the 4+hours spent on public
>transportation (Metro) and the shock of finding out that the Disneyland/LA
>Convention Center (and Staples Center) Bus no longer goes all the way to
the
>convention center but instead leaves you in a very interesting neighborhood
a
>couple of blocks away (I didn't know I could run that fast)

Finally! Someone else who enjoys just RIDING subways. I can't wait for the
Montreal trip Paul, Chris, Cola and I have planned for June. Saturday is La
Ronde. Sunday is metro day. (^:

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TR: Knott's & The Rat Trap 04-01-00

Post by J. Rasmusse » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00



Quote:

> Finally! Someone else who enjoys just RIDING subways. I can't wait for
>the Montreal trip Paul, Chris, Cola and I have planned for June.
>Saturday is La Ronde. Sunday is metro day. (^:

I have always had a thing for subways (and any good, reliable public
transportation system). When I first started visiting Toronto, we rode
the subway just to ride it, not neccessarily to go anywhere. I make it a
point to ride the subway in any city I visit. Some of my favorites:
Paris Metro, London Underground, Washington D.C. Metro, Tokyo, Boston,
and Munich. Somewhere around here I've got a collection of subway maps
for all the systems I've been on, including Buffalo's own
one-line-down-Main Street Metro Rail (which is actually pretty cool
despite the fact that it doesn't go anywhere but downtown and back).

For those interested in subways, these sites are pretty good:
http://www.reed.edu/~reyn/transport.html
http://www.metropla.net/
http://pavel.physics.sunysb.edu/RR/metro.html

-Janna

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Post by Iain Hendr » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00

Quote:

>I have always had a thing for subways (and any good, reliable public
>transportation system). When I first started visiting Toronto, we rode
>the subway just to ride it, not neccessarily to go anywhere.

Did you ride on the SRT?

Quote:
>I make it a
>point to ride the subway in any city I visit. Some of my favorites:
>Paris Metro, London Underground, Washington D.C. Metro, Tokyo, Boston,
>and Munich. Somewhere around here I've got a collection of subway maps
>for all the systems I've been on, including Buffalo's own
>one-line-down-Main Street Metro Rail (which is actually pretty cool
>despite the fact that it doesn't go anywhere but downtown and back).

I love the Washington DC Metro. It's a beautiful system. I just can't WAIT
to ride the Metro in Montreal.

I'm interested to hear your experience with the Parrisian system,
considering it uses an older (although similar) technology to the Montreal
Metro.

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Post by J. Rasmusse » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00



Quote:

> >I have always had a thing for subways (and any good, reliable public
> >transportation system). When I first started visiting Toronto, we
> >rode the subway just to ride it, not neccessarily to go anywhere.

> Did you ride on the SRT?

That's the Scarborough line, right? No, I haven't been on that. I'll
have to check it out. Lately when I visit Toronto, I just use the
Yongue-University-Spadina and Bloor-Danforth Subways along with the
streetcars and buses or just walk. I haven't used the GO trains either
but I have hung out at Union Station. Looking at an old (1995) map I
have I see that you can take a GO train to Maple and then a (seasonal)
bus to Canada's Wonderland--and now we're back on topic!

Quote:
> >I make it a point to ride the subway in any city I visit. Some of my
> >favorites: Paris Metro, London Underground, Washington D.C. Metro,
> >Tokyo, Boston, and Munich. Somewhere around here I've got a
> >collection of subway maps for all the systems I've been on, including
> >Buffalo's own one-line-down-Main Street Metro Rail (which is actually
> >pretty cool despite the fact that it doesn't go anywhere but downtown
> >and back).

> I love the Washington DC Metro. It's a beautiful system. I just can't
>WAIT to ride the Metro in Montreal.

Yes, that is a great system. My sister lived out in the 'burbs of
***ia so I'd take the Vienna train into the city every day when I
visited. My only gripe is that the station closest to Georgetown (Foggy
Bottom I think) is quite a trek.

Quote:

> I'm interested to hear your experience with the Parrisian system,
> considering it uses an older (although similar) technology to the
>Montreal Metro.

I know little or nothing about the technological aspects of the subways
and trains I've been on. I know Buffalo's is a Light Rail RT and I've
been on some very fast trains (TGV in France and some fast trains in
Japan) but other than that, I'm pretty lacking in the technological
area. I just enjoy riding trains and subways and I like the *idea* of
public transportation. If I lived in a city with a good transportation
system I'd ditch my car in a minute. Can you recommend a site that
describes the technology of different types of subway/train/monorail
systems in a simple manner?

Some of the things I liked about the Paris Metro (rode in 1987):

--It was easy to use, even for a foreigner. I read about it in advance
so I knew how to do the tickets (carnets). It's like DC's Metro-purchase
a ticket and put it in a machine that spits it back out after you
proceed through the turnstile. Many of the stations also had cool
navigation boards-you push a button of your destination and the route
lights up on the big board for you.
--It was fast, efficient and relatively clean. (This reminds me of the
Munich subways--they were so clean it looked like they cleaned and
sterilized them every night. Not one speck of litter or graffiti. Upon
closer inspection (staring at the black rocks surrounding the tracks
while waiting for a train), I saw *many* black rats running around by
the tracks. Yuk.)
--Many stations had really cool Art Nouveau station entrances-works of
art.
--I'll never forget riding the last train from the Eiffel Tower back to
my hotel on New Year's Eve. Everyone was screaming "Bonne Annee!" and
drinking champagne and having a big old party on the Metro.

The cool thing about Europe (unlike the US) is that people take trains
all over the place. When I went, I purchased a Eurail pass which gave me
unlimited train travel for a month and I was able to take trains all
over the continent. I can't wait to go back and check out the Chunnel
and Tonnere de Zeus (back on topic again!).

-Janna

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Post by Iain Hendr » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00

Quote:

>That's the Scarborough line, right? No, I haven't been on that. I'll
>have to check it out. Lately when I visit Toronto, I just use the
>Yongue-University-Spadina and Bloor-Danforth Subways along with the
>streetcars and buses or just walk. I haven't used the GO trains either
>but I have hung out at Union Station. Looking at an old (1995) map I
>have I see that you can take a GO train to Maple and then a (seasonal)
>bus to Canada's Wonderland--and now we're back on topic!

Actually, from Yorkdale you can take a GO Bus express from Yorkdale to
Canada's Wonderland. Bus number 3 I believe. The GO Bus terminus is directly
fore of the glass tunnel which goes from the Yorkdale Shopping Centre to the
Yorkdale Subway Station.

Quote:
>Yes, that is a great system. My sister lived out in the 'burbs of
>***ia so I'd take the Vienna train into the city every day when I
>visited. My only gripe is that the station closest to Georgetown (Foggy
>Bottom I think) is quite a trek.

I DIED when I saw that name. It sounded so crude to me. (^:

Quote:
>I know little or nothing about the technological aspects of the subways
>and trains I've been on. I know Buffalo's is a Light Rail RT and I've
>been on some very fast trains (TGV in France and some fast trains in
>Japan) but other than that, I'm pretty lacking in the technological
>area. I just enjoy riding trains and subways and I like the *idea* of
>public transportation. If I lived in a city with a good transportation
>system I'd ditch my car in a minute. Can you recommend a site that
>describes the technology of different types of subway/train/monorail
>systems in a simple manner?

I found this page a little while ago, which is very knowledgable about both
the Montreal Metro and ***-tyred metros in general:

http://SportToday.org/

And this page pour les metro sur pneus:

http://SportToday.org/

(VERY good reading!!)

Quote:
>The cool thing about Europe (unlike the US) is that people take trains
>all over the place. When I went, I purchased a Eurail pass which gave me
>unlimited train travel for a month and I was able to take trains all
>over the continent. I can't wait to go back and check out the Chunnel
>and Tonnere de Zeus (back on topic again!).

Boy would I ever love to tour Europe by train - visit some of the cities
with extensive metros and also some of the parks overseas. It would be so
grand!

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Post by Rollrcst » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>Finally! Someone else who enjoys just RIDING subways. I can't wait for the
>Montreal trip Paul, Chris, Cola and I have planned for June. Saturday is La
>Ronde. Sunday is metro day. (^:

Actually, the Metro in LA refers mainly to the bus system, because our "subway"
system consists of 3 lines servicing Hollywood, Downtown LA, Watts (easist
place to get land i assume) and the airport (sort of...you have to take a
shuttle the mile from the station to the terminal).  I do really like subways
though...Toronto's is cool, DC's is awesome, and LA's will be cool in the
future because in true Hollywood fasion, all of the new stations have some sort
of theme and each have a different architect designing the above ground plazas.

As for public transportation, I think Vegas should look at Disney for the
Rocket Rod's vehicles for moving from *** to ***...maybe have each hotel
station have a track going to a different hotel station and then have the
tracks curve and cross over the Strip so there are hundreds of those stupid
vehicles zipping in every direction...it might get annoying, but it would be
fun!

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Post by Dave Althoff » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

: I know little or nothing about the technological aspects of the subways
: and trains I've been on. I know Buffalo's is a Light Rail RT and I've
: been on some very fast trains (TGV in France and some fast trains in
: Japan) but other than that, I'm pretty lacking in the technological
: area. I just enjoy riding trains and subways and I like the *idea* of
: public transportation. If I lived in a city with a good transportation
: system I'd ditch my car in a minute. Can you recommend a site that
: describes the technology of different types of subway/train/monorail
: systems in a simple manner?

Well, for starters I can suggest http://www.monorails.org 8-)

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Post by J. Rasmusse » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00



 Can you recommend a site that

Quote:
> : describes the technology of different types of subway/train/monorail
> : systems in a simple manner?

> Well, for starters I can suggest http://www.monorails.org 8-)

Thanks. I am amazed that the worlds oldest operating monorail (the
"Schwebebahn" which translates as "suspended railway") opened in 1901.

http://www.monorails.org/tMspages/Wuprtal.html

-Janna

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