NEWS: 2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment Association

NEWS: 2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment Association

Post by Dana Schwart » Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:52


For those who must know, I guess it's news.  My apologies if already
posted to r.r-c.

2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
Association

http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

Dana Schwartz

 
 
 

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Post by Dana Schwart » Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:17:37

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:07:52 -0400, Dana Schwartz

Quote:

>For those who must know, I guess it's news.  My apologies if already
>posted to r.r-c.

>2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
>Association

>http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
info appears at the source pages:

http://www.themeit.com/etea/2010Report.pdf

Thank Google alerts email for this.  Bye now.  

Dana Schwartz

 
 
 

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Post by GodsOnSafar » Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:12:32


Quote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:07:52 -0400, Dana Schwartz


> >For those who must know, I guess it's news. ?My apologies if already
> >posted to r.r-c.

> >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
> >Association

> >http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

> For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
> info appears at the source pages:

> http://www.themeit.com/etea/2010Report.pdf

> Thank Google alerts email for this. ?Bye now. ?

> Dana Schwartz

So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

 
 
 

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Post by nogodform » Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:20:09


Quote:

> > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:07:52 -0400, Dana Schwartz


> > >For those who must know, I guess it's news. ?My apologies if already
> > >posted to r.r-c.

> > >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
> > >Association

> > >http://SportToday.org/

> > For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
> > info appears at the source pages:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> > Thank Google alerts email for this. ?Bye now. ?

> > Dana Schwartz

> So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
> existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
> NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

Thanks for posting the report.   Impatient?   Its a month and a half
late.    The attendance report gives the fans something to talk about
in April.     I have stats going all the way back to 2002 and Ill use
them in my analysis.   No one else on this message board can do what
Im about to do, because youre all lazy and dont keep the stats.
The other reason, is Im not on any message board or in any club, so I
can tell the truth of whats really happening.   You may have a
different opinion, thats fine.

In this report, Ill refer to all the Nay Sayers, haters, and fuddy
duddy people as A-List.

Lets begin with none other than IOA and Universal.  To put everything
in perspective, I was banned in October 2008.    Attendance was stable
at that time, but then fell 11% in 2009.   Report after report came
out with a 10% drop saying it was caused by the recession, even though
Disneys numbers remained steady.

IOA
2007 5,430,000
2008 5,297,000
2009 4,627,000 (-11%)
2010 5,950,000 (+30%)

So they basically got a big bump from the HP Shopping mall after
attendance was free falling by 11% in 2009.   The movie comes out mid
July, which will keep the attendance stats high.  But then what?
Its back to -11%  as they ban 20k a year.   The big jump in 2010 puts
them where they should have been all along, in fact, they should be
higher right now.

USF
2007 6,200,000
2008 6,231,000
2009 5,530,000 (-10%)
2010 5,930,000 (+6.1%)

USF is riding the coat tails of the HP Shopping mall.   Its always
had higher attendance than IOA.    But look, even with the huge bump,
their numbers are still below 2008 levels (when I was banned).
Whats probably happening here, is many fans visit the HP Shopping
mall to see what its all about, and dont bother going to USF,
because the only thing new over there is a carnival coaster that is
broken down most of the time, and a re-done Homer simulator thats
worth going on once just to try it.

SWF
2007 5,800,000
2008 5,926,000
2009 5,800,000 (-6.8%)
2010 5,100,000 (-12.1%)

Sea World Of Florida messed up by letting a foreign *** company named
In-Bev buy out their stock with a hostile take over.  It was the
biggest mistake of the decade.    Up until this point, SWF posted
notices all over the park reminding everyone it was American.   But
all that changed when In-Bev came along.   They stopped the beer
samples, then karma struck with a trainer dying.    Even with Manta,
the numbers dropped.   Oh, by the way, when they were bought out by In-
Bev, I didnt renew my season pass, and havent been back since.   I
rode Manta and that was it.     My season pass included both SWF and
BGT, I didnt renew it.     The A-List crowd would tell you that
didnt matter, Im only one.  Well, the numbers dont lie, it looks
like more than one stopped going.    I used to stop in all the time,
drink a few beers, and have some food.   This year, my only plans are
to visit BGT to ride Chunt, and we wont be visiting Orlando.    And
more thing, I no longer drink Budweiser.   I drink Coors Light and
Heinekin.

BGT
2007 4,400,000
2008 4,410,000
2009 4,100,000 (-12.3%)
2010 4,200,000 (+2.4%)

BGT suffered the same fate as SWF.   They stopped the beer samples and
I didnt renew my pass.   Cheetah Hunt will make their numbers go up
for 2011, but probably back to 2008 levels, maybe a little higher.
Im only visiting one time this year, for Chunt.   In the past Id
visit many times.   In-Bev, you suck.   Drink Coors Light.

GERNERAL OBSERVATION
In the 2010 PDF, its very interesting to note the map at the end of
the report.   It high lights the major areas of the country that have
the most attendance.    Obvously, Orlando is the biggest, with
Disney.   The west coast is big with LA.    Back to the east, theres
***a with BGE and KD.    Moving north, is SFNJ, and then the Ohio
area.   Guess what, those are the areas I find myself flying to most
of the time.   Why?    They offer the most bang for the buck.    I can
visit multiple parks.   A place with only one park is tuff to visit.
For example, I made my first trip to Dollywood this year, and drove
there.   This would also explain why Freestyle park went out of
business.   It was a single park, out of the way, with an average B&M
sit down.   The hype didnt make fans show up.

SFNJ
Moving on to the American parks, we take at look at SFNJ.   Their
attendance is good, but not even in the top 25, even with the fastest
and tallest roller coaster in the world.   Why is that?   1.  Only one
park in the area.   2.  Not open all year.   3.  Shitty Service.
They dont have all rides operating when the park opens.  They run 1
train to start, and act like theyre doing the fans a favor by adding
more trains as the day goes on.   It can take half an hour to add
another train WITH FANS WAITING IN THE STATION because they have to
stop the ride, put the new train on, and run them before letting fans
back on.    When more fans show up, it just makes things worse.    I
took my family there and had a shitty morning because none of the
rides were working.  El Toro doesnt open until noon.    The flying
coaster only starts with one train.     So to all the suits at Six
Flags Great America, your attendance will never go up because you have
shitty service.   Your rides are not open in the morning.    I havent
been back since and dont have any plans to go this year.    Your
shitty service is what has kept me away.     Theyve got all those
coasters, only 2 million visitors in the year, yet the major rides
have long lines.    Ive just given you the reason why.   And this is
why fans wont come back, even if you add new coasters.    Your
service is shit, you dont understand how to move people through the
park.    When you open in the morning, have ALL TRAINS on the rides
and give the early people a bonus for showing up.

So there you have it, the A-list crowd will say my analysis is flawed,
that Im only one person, yet I backed it up with stats and real life
examples of what Im doing to prove it.   I will not give the suits a
break, because they've proven over and over how stupid they are.

Rides not being open are a killer.   It explains why people stopped
visiting USF and their carnival coaster.   It explains why SFNJ and
the other six flags parks can't break into the top 25.    You***off
fans once, and they don't come back.

 
 
 

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Post by ldnayma » Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:35:12


Quote:

> SFNJ
> Moving on to the American parks, we take at look at SFNJ. ? Their
> attendance is good, but not even in the top 25, even with the fastest
> and tallest roller coaster in the world. ? Why is that? ? 1. ?Only one
> park in the area. ? 2. ?Not open all year. ? 3. ?Shitty Service.
> They dont have all rides operating when the park opens. ?They run 1
> train to start, and act like theyre doing the fans a favor by adding
> more trains as the day goes on. ? It can take half an hour to add
> another train WITH FANS WAITING IN THE STATION because they have to
> stop the ride, put the new train on, and run them before letting fans
> back on. ? ?When more fans show up, it just makes things worse. ? ?I
> took my family there and had a shitty morning because none of the
> rides were working. ?El Toro doesnt open until noon. ? ?The flying
> coaster only starts with one train. ? ? So to all the suits at Six
> Flags Great America, your attendance will never go up because you have
> shitty service. ? Your rides are not open in the morning. ? ?I havent
> been back since and dont have any plans to go this year. ? ?Your
> shitty service is what has kept me away. ? ? Theyve got all those
> coasters, only 2 million visitors in the year, yet the major rides
> have long lines. ? ?Ive just given you the reason why. ? And this is
> why fans wont come back, even if you add new coasters. ? ?Your
> service is shit, you dont understand how to move people through the
> park. ? ?When you open in the morning, have ALL TRAINS on the rides
> and give the early people a bonus for showing up.

Are you trying to say they have shitty service?
 
 
 

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Post by nogodform » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:35:06


Quote:

> > SFNJ
> > Moving on to the American parks, we take at look at SFNJ. ? Their
> > attendance is good, but not even in the top 25, even with the fastest
> > and tallest roller coaster in the world. ? Why is that? ? 1. ?Only one
> > park in the area. ? 2. ?Not open all year. ? 3. ?Shitty Service.
> > They dont have all rides operating when the park opens. ?They run 1
> > train to start, and act like theyre doing the fans a favor by adding
> > more trains as the day goes on. ? It can take half an hour to add
> > another train WITH FANS WAITING IN THE STATION because they have to
> > stop the ride, put the new train on, and run them before letting fans
> > back on. ? ?When more fans show up, it just makes things worse. ? ?I
> > took my family there and had a shitty morning because none of the
> > rides were working. ?El Toro doesnt open until noon. ? ?The flying
> > coaster only starts with one train. ? ? So to all the suits at Six
> > Flags Great America, your attendance will never go up because you have
> > shitty service. ? Your rides are not open in the morning. ? ?I havent
> > been back since and dont have any plans to go this year. ? ?Your
> > shitty service is what has kept me away. ? ? Theyve got all those
> > coasters, only 2 million visitors in the year, yet the major rides
> > have long lines. ? ?Ive just given you the reason why. ? And this is
> > why fans wont come back, even if you add new coasters. ? ?Your
> > service is shit, you dont understand how to move people through the
> > park. ? ?When you open in the morning, have ALL TRAINS on the rides
> > and give the early people a bonus for showing up.

> Are you trying to say they have shitty service?

I'll give another example along this line while I'm thinking about
it.

SFMM

I show up early, an hour before the park opens, first in line at the
gate, run with the bulls to X2, make it near the front of the pack.
Do you know what our reward is?   A guard who makes everyone wait 15
minutes.    15 ***ing minutes all for nothing.    They finally let
the fans in, and the ride operates.   By the time I get my one ride
and exit the station, the line is already out to the walk way (60
minutes plus).    This has happened to me twice, so it's SOP.

You're saying join a coaster club and get ERT.   I don't want to join
a coaster club and get one day of fun.    The park should have the
ride operating when the park opens.   They should do like (oh no,
don't say it) CEDAR POINT and have the 2 best rides running early for
season pass holders and hotel guests.  I realize they don't have a
hotel, but there was talk of building one.

When you run with the bulls at Cedar Point, and get to the Maverick
queue, there's a human waiting there, but he immediately walks
everyone through the queue to the station, where they start running
the ride.   But NO, SFMM wants to make everyone wait 15 minutes, then
open the ride like they're doing everyone a favor.      So I only end
up getting one ride before continuing on, when it should be 2.

This also causes a domino effect for the morning causing the wait for
X2 to spill out into the walk way.     The answer is to have X2
operating when the park opens.    Not 15 minutes later.

 
 
 

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Post by Wolf » Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:53:00

Quote:
>> >For those who must know, I guess it's news.  My apologies if already
>> >posted to r.r-c.

>> >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
>> >Association

>> >http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

>> For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
>> info appears at the source pages:

>> http://www.themeit.com/etea/2010Report.pdf
> So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
> existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
> NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

The attendance figures aren't official. Universal didn't release their
official numbers.

--
|\-/|
<0 0>
=(o)=
-Wolf

 
 
 

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Post by nogodform » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:46:42


Quote:
> >> >For those who must know, I guess it's news. ?My apologies if already
> >> >posted to r.r-c.

> >> >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
> >> >Association

> >> >http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

> >> For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
> >> info appears at the source pages:

> >>http://www.themeit.com/etea/2010Report.pdf
> > So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
> > existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
> > NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

> The attendance figures aren't official. Universal didn't release their
> official numbers.

> --
> |\-/|
> <0 0>
> =(o)=
> -Wolf

Thanks Wolf.   No parks release their official attendance figures.
It's all "estimated."

No one challenged me on my report.   I backed it up with stats.

The numbers don't lie.

The real question I'm going to concentrate on is the Six Flags and
Knotts parks versus Disney.

We're obviously talking LA here.

Why is there such a huge gap, and why did the CEO of SF talk about
shutting down SFMM?

These are the questions I want answered.

The fuddy duddy A-List people will chime in with stupid answers.  I
don't want to hear them.

No one has every answered the question as to why Disney has such a
huge number.

Actually I have.  It's because babies grow up in "Disney" rooms.

But no one listened to me.

There's no "Six Flags" room, or a "Knotts" room.      Maybe a few
Snoopy characters.

So tell me.  Why are there 16 million people going to Magic Kingdom
and only 2.7 million to SFNJ?

Two Questions here.    SFMM vs. Disney Land, and SFNJ VS. Magic
Kingdom.

Answer the question.     Give me a report of the attendance figures
and back it up with stats.

I'm going to give a full analysis after I review the numbers.

 
 
 

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Post by VFTB Mat » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:25:14


Quote:

> > >> >For those who must know, I guess it's news. ?My apologies if already
> > >> >posted to r.r-c.

> > >> >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
> > >> >Association

> > >> >http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10042840.asp

> > >> For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
> > >> info appears at the source pages:

> > >>http://www.themeit.com/etea/2010Report.pdf
> > > So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
> > > existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
> > > NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

> > The attendance figures aren't official. Universal didn't release their
> > official numbers.

> > --
> > |\-/|
> > <0 0>
> > =(o)=
> > -Wolf

> Thanks Wolf. ? No parks release their official attendance figures.
> It's all "estimated."

> No one challenged me on my report. ? I backed it up with stats.

> The numbers don't lie.

> The real question I'm going to concentrate on is the Six Flags and
> Knotts parks versus Disney.

> We're obviously talking LA here.

> Why is there such a huge gap, and why did the CEO of SF talk about
> shutting down SFMM?

> These are the questions I want answered.

> The fuddy duddy A-List people will chime in with stupid answers. ?I
> don't want to hear them.

> No one has every answered the question as to why Disney has such a
> huge number.

> Actually I have. ?It's because babies grow up in "Disney" rooms.

> But no one listened to me.

> There's no "Six Flags" room, or a "Knotts" room. ? ? ?Maybe a few
> Snoopy characters.

> So tell me. ?Why are there 16 million people going to Magic Kingdom
> and only 2.7 million to SFNJ?

> Two Questions here. ? ?SFMM vs. Disney Land, and SFNJ VS. Magic
> Kingdom.

> Answer the question. ? ? Give me a report of the attendance figures
> and back it up with stats.

> I'm going to give a full analysis after I review the numbers.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Yep.  "It happened to me twice. It's SOP."

True mathematics at work everyone!

 
 
 

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Post by nogodform » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:36:44


Quote:


> > > >> >For those who must know, I guess it's news. ?My apologies if already
> > > >> >posted to r.r-c.

> > > >> >2010 Theme Park Attendance Figures Released by Themed Entertainment
> > > >> >Association

> > > >> >http://SportToday.org/

> > > >> For the truly impatient who must know such things NOW, more detailed
> > > >> info appears at the source pages:

> > > >>http://SportToday.org/
> > > > So Universal cites a 30% increase in attendance for a ride that
> > > > existed at the park for, what, a quarter of the season? LOL.
> > > > NoGodForMe, you reading tihs?

> > > The attendance figures aren't official. Universal didn't release their
> > > official numbers.

> > > --
> > > |\-/|
> > > <0 0>
> > > =(o)=
> > > -Wolf

> > Thanks Wolf. ? No parks release their official attendance figures.
> > It's all "estimated."

> > No one challenged me on my report. ? I backed it up with stats.

> > The numbers don't lie.

> > The real question I'm going to concentrate on is the Six Flags and
> > Knotts parks versus Disney.

> > We're obviously talking LA here.

> > Why is there such a huge gap, and why did the CEO of SF talk about
> > shutting down SFMM?

> > These are the questions I want answered.

> > The fuddy duddy A-List people will chime in with stupid answers. ?I
> > don't want to hear them.

> > No one has every answered the question as to why Disney has such a
> > huge number.

> > Actually I have. ?It's because babies grow up in "Disney" rooms.

> > But no one listened to me.

> > There's no "Six Flags" room, or a "Knotts" room. ? ? ?Maybe a few
> > Snoopy characters.

> > So tell me. ?Why are there 16 million people going to Magic Kingdom
> > and only 2.7 million to SFNJ?

> > Two Questions here. ? ?SFMM vs. Disney Land, and SFNJ VS. Magic
> > Kingdom.

> > Answer the question. ? ? Give me a report of the attendance figures
> > and back it up with stats.

> > I'm going to give a full analysis after I review the numbers.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Yep. ?"It happened to me twice. It's SOP."

> True mathematics at work everyone!

I did a search to find out WHY Disney has such a huge lead when it
comes to attendance.   There really are no answers out there.  Robert
Niles has a good discussion here.

http://SportToday.org/

Lot's of good content on this article.

So let's examine the American parks
Source of figures.
http://SportToday.org/

2010
    Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom, 16.92 million, -1.5%
    Disneyland, 15.98 million, +0.5%
    Epcot, 10.83 million, -1.5%
    Disney's Animal Kingdom, 9.69 million, +1.0%, up one position
    Disney's Hollywood Studios, 9.60 million, -1.0%, down one position
    Disney California Adventure, 6.28 million, +3.0%
    Universal's Islands of Adventure, 5.95 million, +30.2%, up two
positions
    Universal Studios Florida, 5.93 million, +6.1%
    SeaWorld Orlando, 5.10 million, -12.1%, down two positions
    Universal Studios Hollywood, 5.04 million, +26.0%
    Busch Gardens Tampa, 4.20 million, +2.4%, up one position
    SeaWorld San Diego, 3.80 million, -9.5%, down one position
    Knott's Berry Farm, 3.60 million, +8.0%
    Canada's Wonderland, 3.38 million, +7.0%
    Kings Island, 3.11 million, +3.7%
    Cedar Point, 3.05 million, +3.7%
    Hersheypark, 2.89 million, +3.0%, up one position
    Busch Gardens Williamsburg, 2.80 million, -3.4%, down one position
    Six Flags Great Adventure, 2.70 million, +2.5%
    Six Flags Great America, 2.70 million, +10.2%

2009

1       Magic Kingdom Orlando, Florida  17.2m (1.0%)
2       DisneylandAnaheim, California   15.9m(8.0%)
3       EpcotOrlando, Florida                   10.9m(+0.5%)
4       Disney's Hollywood StudiosOrlando, Florida      9.70m(+1.0%)
5       Disney's Animal KingdomOrlando, Florida 9.59m(+0.5%)
6       Disney's California AdventureAnaheim, California        6.05m(+9.5%)
7       SeaWorld OrlandoOrlando, Florida        5.80m(-6.8%)
8       Universal Studios FloridaOrlando, Florida       5.53m(-10.0%)
9       Islands of AdventureOrlando, Florida    4.62m(-11.3%)
10      Universal Studios HollywoodUniversal City, California
4.30m(-6.0%)
11      SeaWorld San DiegoSan Diego, California         4.20m(-12.6%)
12      Busch Gardens TampaTampa, Florida       4.10m(-12.3%)
13      Knott's Berry FarmBuena Park, California        3.33m(-6.5%)
14      Canada's WonderlandVaughan, Ontario     3.16m(-6.5%)
15      Kings IslandKings Mill, Ohio    3.00m(-4.0%)
16      Cedar PointSandusky, Ohio       2.94m(-8.0%)
17      Busch Gardens WilliamsburgWilliamsburg, ***ia        2.90m(+3.7%)
18      HersheyparkHershey, Pennsylvania        2.80m(-1.2%)
19      Six Flags Great AdventureJackson, New Jersey    2.63m(-4.6%)
20      Six Flags Magic MountainValencia, California    2.50m(-2.5%)
20      Six Flags Great AmericaGurnee, Illinois         2.50m(-6.3%)
--      Holiday WorldSanta Claus, Indiana       1.03m(n/a%)

2008

1       Magic KingdomOrlando, Florida   17.0m(0%)
2       DisneylandAnaheim, California   14.7m(-1.0%)
3       EpcotOrlando, Florida   10.9m(0%)
4       Disney's Hollywood StudiosOrlando, Florida      9.6m(+0.5%)
5       Disney's Animal KingdomOrlando, Florida         9.54m(+0.5%)
6       Universal Studios FloridaOrlando, Florida       6.23m(+0.5%)
7       SeaWorld OrlandoOrlando, Florida        5.92m(-2.9%)
8       Disney's California AdventureAnaheim, California        5.56m(-2.0%)
9       Islands of AdventureOrlando, Florida    5.29m(-2.4%)
10      Universal Studios HollywoodUniversal City, California
4.58m(-2.5%)
11      Busch Gardens TampaTampa, Florida       4.41m(-2.0%)
12      SeaWorld San DiegoSan Diego, California         4.14m(-2.7%)
13      Knott's Berry FarmBuena Park, California        3.56m(-1.8%)
14      Canada's WonderlandVaughan, Ontario     3.38m(+4.0%)
15      Cedar PointSandusky, Ohio       3.19m(+2.5%)
16      Kings IslandKings Mill, Ohio    3.12m(+2.5%)
17      Busch Gardens WilliamsburgWilliamsburg, ***ia        3.09m(-2.0%)
18      HersheyparkHershey, Pennsylvania        2.84m(-4.4%)
19      Six Flags Great AdventureJackson, New Jersey    2.76m(+1.5%)
20      Six Flags Great AmericaGurnee, Illinois         2.66m(+1.5%)

2007
1       Magic KingdomOrlando, Florida   17.0m(+2.5%)
2       DisneylandAnaheim, California   14.8m(+1.0%)
3       EpcotOrlando, Florida   10.9m(+4.5%)
4       Disney's Hollywood StudiosOrlando, Florida      9.51m(+4.5%)
5       Disney's Animal KingdomOrlando, Florida         9.49m(+6.5%)
6       Universal Studios FloridaOrlando, Florida       6.2m(+3.3%)
7       SeaWorld OrlandoOrlando, Florida        5.8m(+1.0%)
8       Disney's California AdventureAnaheim, California        5.68m(-4.5%)
9       Islands of AdventureOrlando, Florida    5.43m(+2.5%)
10      Universal Studios HollywoodUniversal City, California   4.7m(0%)
11      Busch Gardens TampaTampa, Florida       4.4m(+1.0%)
12      SeaWorld San DiegoSan Diego, California         4.26m(0%)
13      Knott's Berry FarmBuena Park, California        3.63m(-1.0%)
14      Canada's WonderlandVaughan, Ontario     3.25m(+0.5%)
15      Busch Gardens WilliamsburgWilliamsburg, ***ia        3.15m(+12.5%)
16      Cedar PointSandusky, Ohio       3.12m(+1.5%)
17      Kings IslandKings Mill, Ohio    3.05m(0%)
18      HersheyparkHershey, Pennsylvania        2.94m(+9.2%)
19      Six Flags Great AdventureJackson, New Jersey    2.72m(-0.5%)
20      Six Flags Great AmericaGurnee, Illinois         2.63m(+0.5%)

Knotts Berry Farm, the highest Amu***t park on the list.  Their
attendance stays near 3.6 million.    They're right down the street
from Disney.   Have a hotel next to the property.  Have thrill
coasters and a kiddie land.   What is missing?    We obviously have to
look at the over all park feel, and the characters.   Do kids grow up
in Snoopy rooms?   Are they coming to see Snoopy?    A few, but I
doubt it.    What about the park feel when you visit Knotts versus
Disney Land?

Cedar Point, stays near 3.1 million, even with block buster rides like
Top Thrill Dragster and Maverick.    They have on site hotels, and 2
value resorts down the street.   They have kid stuff, Snoopy, water
park.    Why is the attendance only 3.1 million year after year?

Hershey Park, same thing as Knotts and Cedar Point.   Attendance stays
around 2.9 million.   They have their own hotels with a shuttle bus to
the parks.    Chocolate world to tour.

SFNJ, attendance the last 4 years is about 2.7 million.     Tallest /
Fastest roller coaster in the land.    No hotels near property.
Rides don't open when the park does.    Crappy service.  Besides these
things, the attendance remains the same year after year.

SFMM - Dropped out of the top 20.  Is that why Snyder wanted to shut
it down?

Getting back to the discussion, the top Amu***t parks are not even
close to Disney.    Their attendance number remain the same year after
year.   The same can be said for the themed parks of Universal and
Busch Gardens.

Six Flags tried to be like Disney by adding more costumed characters
at their entrances and having a "party" like opening.   Well, it
didn't work, the numbers remained the same.    Their rides are not
open in the morning.  So they have this "party" to get people e***d,
then ruin the experience by only having 1 train operating, or opening
their biggest woodie at noon.

So why is this happening?     That's the big question.    Of coarse,
I'll go back to my argument that kids grow up in Disney rooms, and the
parents take them there year after year.    Clean parks, and the
"world" thing add to it.   We have to compare the over all
"experience" when visiting a Disney park versus the others.    Why is
there such a huge difference?    Why do the parents return to Disney
year after year, when the other parks seem to offer the same
thing?

 
 
 

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Post by ldnayma » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:10:53


Quote:
>?El Toro doesnt open until noon. ? ?The flying
> coaster only starts with one train. ? ? So to all the suits at Six
> Flags Great America, your attendance will never go up because you have
> shitty service. ?

As much as I enjoyed your rant, I have to say, I've been to Six Flags
NJ a few times this summer and it's always crowded as ***.

I don't think they have any problems with attendance at this park,
they seem to be doing fine. There may be some underperforming Six
Flags parks but this ain't one of them.

 
 
 

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Post by ldnayma » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:13:23


Quote:

> SFNJ, attendance the last 4 years is about 2.7 million. ? ? Tallest /
> Fastest roller coaster in the land. ? ?No hotels near property.
> Rides don't open when the park does. ? ?Crappy service. ?Besides these
> things, the attendance remains the same year after year.

Again, maybe that's just how many people are going to go to Six Flags,
no matter what they do. There are only so many people who want to go
to these parks, and there are only so many new attractions that can be
added.

Hershey Park...Six Flags...Cedar Point...these are some of the
biggest, most famous, and best coaster parks to go to. At some point
supply and demand just even each other out.

 
 
 

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Post by BaSSiStiS » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:17:47

Hey NGFM...what do the top 13 parks every year have in commmon?
 
 
 

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Post by VFTB Mat » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:11:57


Quote:
> Hey NGFM...what do the top 13 parks every year have in commmon?

Oh!  I know, I know!
 
 
 

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Post by nogodform » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:15:25


Quote:
> Hey NGFM...what do the top 13 parks every year have in commmon?

The top 13 parks are "Theme" parks versus "Amu***t" parks.

Six Flags tries to theme rides around super hero characters.
Cedar Fair has Snoopy.

Yet the parks are Amu***t in nature.

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The other thing the top parks have in common, is they are open year
around.     Yet we could say the same for Knotts, and SFMM.
Dollywood is also open most of the year, only closing in the
winter.
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Idnayman brings up a good point.   If SFNJ is crowded, then why is the
attendance only 2.7 million for the year?       On an average summer
day, how many people are visiting SFNJ versus a Disney park?

Is the size of the park itself a limiting factor?    Meaning, if SFNJ
puts in the fastest / tallest coaster in the world, it doesn't matter,
because the lines are long, and people stay away?

That's exactly how I'm thinking.   I have a trip planned for later
this year when the crowds die down.   I can fly anywhere in the
country.    Where will I go?   Texas?   Nope.    SFNJ?   Probably not
if the rides don't open in the morning and the park is crowded.
***ia?   Yes.    2 parks, most bang for the buck.    That's exactly
how I'm thinking, and I hope the suits are reading this.