I Like Huge Steelies - Want more.....

I Like Huge Steelies - Want more.....

Post by Trust Micro Consulting Servic » Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:00


I'm a native Georgian and usually go to SF over Georgia about twice a year.
We have the Ninja, the Viper, and the Mindbender, all steel, all pretty
good.  But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.  The KI Vortex is
twice the length of the Ninja, and definately higher.  I want MORE!!  What
parks in the southeast have coasters in the class of the Vortex.  I've
decided that SFOG's Ninja is a wimp!  I've also been to Paramount's
Carowinds and rode everything there and was sorely disappointed.  I want
southeastern super-steelies!  Also, where are more of these coasters in
the States.  I don't want woodies 'cause I have to go to a chiropractor
after riding them (Although the PKI Beast was incredible).  

S Ewing

 
 
 

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Post by John Downi » Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>Subject: I Like Huge Steelies - Want more.....
>Date: 25 Jul 1995 14:22:18 GMT
>I'm a native Georgian and usually go to SF over Georgia about twice a year.
>We have the Ninja, the Viper, and the Mindbender, all steel, all pretty
>good.  But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
>thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.  The KI Vortex is
>twice the length of the Ninja, and definately higher.  I want MORE!!  What
>parks in the southeast have coasters in the class of the Vortex.  I've
>decided that SFOG's Ninja is a wimp!  I've also been to Paramount's
>Carowinds and rode everything there and was sorely disappointed.  I want
>southeastern super-steelies!  Also, where are more of these coasters in
>the States.  I don't want woodies 'cause I have to go to a chiropractor
>after riding them (Although the PKI Beast was incredible).  

Head for Tampa and try the Kumba.  Us northerners wish we had one of those up
here.
Quote:
>S Ewing


 
 
 

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Post by Todd Lo » Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>parks in the southeast have coasters in the class of the Vortex.  I've
>decided that SFOG's Ninja is a wimp!  I've also been to Paramount's
>Carowinds and rode everything there and was sorely disappointed.  I want
>southeastern super-steelies!  Also, where are more of these coasters in>>the States.  I don't want woodies 'cause I have to go to a chiropractor
>after riding them (Although the PKI Beast was incredible).  

>S Ewing


 
 
 

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Post by Strid » Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:00

        For an awesome SE mega-looper you must ride Kumba.  I have
actually never ridden it but it looks awesome and everyone I have seen
who's gone on it has said it was one of the absolute best mega-loopers.  
        Kumba is located in Busch Gardens Tampa.  If you don't think
you'll be able to go more than once go next year.  They're will be a new
inverted coaster that will supposedly be bigger than the Raptor.  It will
also probably make the Kumba line a little shorter.
        FWIW, I guess I shouldn't have posted this because I have never
been on it but it seemed so obvious I just had to say something.

Jesse
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Post by Todd Lo » Thu, 27 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
>thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.  The KI Vortex is
>twice the length of the Ninja, and definately higher.  I want MORE!!  What
>parks in the southeast have coasters in the class of the Vortex.  I've
>decided that SFOG's Ninja is a wimp!
>S Ewing

I'll try to post this right this time!

Head to Busch Gardens Tampa which has IMHO the best looping steel coaster
Kumba. Everything about it is great. If you are a steel freak this park
is for you. No wood in sight. :(  2 older steels complete the lineup one
of which is the only lapbar with no shoulder restraint looping coaster I've
seen. (Do I see the beginning of another thread here?) Also coming next
year a suspended Raptor style coaster.
 I rode PKI's Vortex and IMHO Kumba beats it hands down. For non looping
steel Magnum of course.
See ya in the front car!   Todd Long

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Obszans » Thu, 27 Jul 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
>I'm a native Georgian and usually go to SF over Georgia about twice a year.
>We have the Ninja, the Viper, and the Mindbender, all steel, all pretty
>good.  But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
>thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.  The KI Vortex is
>twice the length of the Ninja, and definately higher.  I want MORE!!  What
>parks in the southeast have coasters in the class of the Vortex.  I've
>decided that SFOG's Ninja is a wimp!  I've also been to Paramount's
>Carowinds and rode everything there and was sorely disappointed.  I want
>southeastern super-steelies!  Also, where are more of these coasters in
>the States.  I don't want woodies 'cause I have to go to a chiropractor
>after riding them (Although the PKI Beast was incredible).  

>S Ewing

For southeastern steelies that top SFOG's offerings, you'll have to head
down to Busch Gardens in Tampa, FL.  Kumba is a nice, looping steel coaster,
and a new mega-inverted coaster is going in for a debut next year.

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Post by KFP104 » Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:00:00

So. You liked the Vortex, eh?  Head to Chicago and ride the Shockwave at
SFGreat America.  Perhaps you'd like the Steel Phantom at Kennywood?  Also
try the Kumba!  You're so close to it in Hotlanta and it is very much
worth it.  It's far better than the Vortex.

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Post by A Usenet P » Sat, 29 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
>thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.

I found that the most interesting thing about the Vortex is that it's the
clearest example I've seen of Arrow's inability to lay a decent track.

If you look at the curves, they are banked, but the inside rail does this:

----------                                ---------
           \                            /
             --------------------------

It's so clear that you can't miss it.  Instead of the smooth evenly-banked
curves that you get on a Schwartzkopf or B&M or even Vekoma ride, the track
just drops about 1 foot as it goes into the curve and then comes back up
at the end.  There are clearly visible corners.  Yuck!

__   -paul asente                                               My other car

  Look at them all, through the darkness I'm bringing,
  They're not sad at all; they're actually singing!
  They sing without juicers!  They sing without blenders!
  They sing without flungers, capdabblers and smendlers!
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Post by Trust Micro Consulting Servic » Tue, 01 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Kings Island Vortex
Quote:
>I found that the most interesting thing about the Vortex is that it's the
>clearest example I've seen of Arrow's inability to lay a decent track.

>If you look at the curves, they are banked, but the inside rail does this:

>----------                                ---------
>           \                            /
>             --------------------------

So what if the turns aren't even.  The ride is still incredible.  The
drop into the turn tends to throw you into the turn resulting in an
increase in intensity in my book.  If you want smooth turns, Kings Island
has a nice merry-go-round right next to the Vortex.  Otherwise, let me
know of any other Arrow coasters that don't have (in your words) a decent
track, especially those that are as big or bigger than the one at Kings
Island.  I want to ride them all!

S Ewing

 
 
 

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Post by Trust Micro Consulting Servic » Tue, 01 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>>But I just went to Ohio to Kings Island and rode the Vortex and
>>thought it was the most incredible thing ever built.

>I found that the most interesting thing about the Vortex is that it's the
>clearest example I've seen of Arrow's inability to lay a decent track.

>If you look at the curves, they are banked, but the inside rail does this:

>----------                                ---------
>           \                            /
>             --------------------------

So what if the turns aren't even.  The ride is still incredible.  The
drop into the turn tends to throw you into the turn resulting in an
increase in intensity in my book.  If you want smooth turns, Kings Island
has a nice merry-go-round right next to the Vortex.  Otherwise, let me
know of any other Arrow coasters that don't have (in your words) a decent
track, especially those that are as big or bigger than the one at Kings
Island.  I want to ride them all!

Also, let me know what your favorite steelies are, where they're at, etc.
I have 3 requirements for coasters:

        1) They fill my entire field of vision.
        2) They must be steel.
        3) They must look like they could kill me.

....a rather simplistic way of viewing coasters, but hey, I'm not an
engineer.  I'm a paying customer.  I want my socks thrilled off.

S Ewing

 
 
 

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Post by Trust Micro Consulting Servic » Tue, 01 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>I found that the most interesting thing about the Vortex is that it's the
>clearest example I've seen of Arrow's inability to lay a decent track.

>If you look at the curves, they are banked, but the inside rail does this:

>----------                                ---------
>           \                            /
>             --------------------------

So what if the turns aren't even.  The ride is still incredible.  The
drop into the turn tends to throw you into the turn resulting in an
increase in intensity in my book.  If you want smooth turns, Kings Island
has a nice merry-go-round right next to the Vortex.  Otherwise, let me
know of any other Arrow coasters that don't have (in your words) a decent
track, especially those that are as big or bigger than the one at Kings
Island.  I want to ride them all!

Also, let me know what your favorite steelies are, where they're at, etc.
I have 3 requirements for coasters:

        1) They fill my entire field of vision.
        2) They must be steel.
        3) They must look like they could kill me.

....a rather simplistic way of viewing coasters, but hey, I'm not an
engineer.  I'm a paying customer.  I want my socks thrilled off.

S Ewing

 
 
 

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Post by Trust Micro Consulting Servic » Tue, 01 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>It's so clear that you can't miss it.  Instead of the smooth evenly-banked
>curves that you get on a Schwartzkopf or B&M or even Vekoma ride, the track
>just drops about 1 foot as it goes into the curve and then comes back up
>at the end.  There are clearly visible corners.  Yuck!

So what if the turns aren't even.  The ride is still incredible.  The
drop into the turn tends to throw you into the turn resulting in an
increase in intensity in my book.  If you want smooth turns, Kings Island
has a nice merry-go-round right next to the Vortex.  Otherwise, let me
know of any other Arrow coasters that don't have (in your words) a decent
track, especially those that are as big or bigger than the one at Kings
Island.  I want to ride them all!

S Ewing

 
 
 

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Post by Aaron Davi » Wed, 02 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>Also, let me know what your favorite steelies are, where they're at, etc.
>I have 3 requirements for coasters:

>    1) They fill my entire field of vision.
>    2) They must be steel.
>    3) They must look like they could kill me.

>....a rather simplistic way of viewing coasters, but hey, I'm not an
>engineer.  I'm a paying customer.  I want my socks thrilled off.

If you like steel coasters, then next time you go to Ohio, go a bit
farther north to CP.  Magnum will fill your field of vision.  Raptor
looks very menacing (even with that green/pink/yellow color scheme), and
the Gemini is great too.

9 days to Cedar Point and counting,
Aaron

 
 
 

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Post by Ravikanth Susar » Sat, 05 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I am little flummoxed but nobody in this group ever mentions about Iron Wolf in SFGAm,
Chicago. In this Steel Coaster, unlike in other coasters, people ride standing in the
coaster. Ultimate thrill ride,atleast to me.

Ravi.

 
 
 

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Post by Marcus L. Prat » Sat, 05 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>Also, let me know what your favorite steelies are, where they're at, etc.
>I have 3 requirements for coasters:
>    1) They fill my entire field of vision.
>    2) They must be steel.
>    3) They must look like they could kill me.
>....a rather simplistic way of viewing coasters, but hey, I'm not an
>engineer.  I'm a paying customer.  I want my socks thrilled off.

I agree. Vortex is, by far, my No.1 steel, right now; I haven't
ridden Magnum, Raptor or the Steel Phantom yet. :-) The things
I really liked about the Vortex is the fact that the intensity
never stops. It twists you, turns you, flips you over all the
way to the end. No "dead" track with 6 inversions! Go Mr. Ron
Toomer! I wish you could ride your masterful creations. It must
be like owning a candy factory and being a diabetic. :-(

I love the bowtie(?) element near the end of the ride. The
section of track going into it is a spectacular sight from the
front seat. I wish I could a picture of it somehow. In an
interwiew with Mr. Toomer he showed one of the ways he comes up
with ideas for elements: he takes a flexible rod and bends it
around. Then they put it in the computer to see if it can be
done. Very artistic. The interview was on the "America's Greatest
Roller Coaster Thrills" video.

PKI employees were spreading a rumor that this ride is being sold
for parts and a new ride was being put it sometime. Has anyone
heard about this? I think my leg was being pulled, but if there
is any truth to this story, the park is crazy. The line for ride
must have been 3 hours long! I'd say the ride is still popular. :-)

Looking forward to riding Magnum,

Marcus Prater

"The BEAST rules, for now!"