Peace out, Cedar Point Wildcat

Peace out, Cedar Point Wildcat

Post by GodsOnSafar » Thu, 03 May 2012 23:34:11


Heaven needed another Schwarzcopf. WTF on this being announced for
removal 10 days prior to opening day.
 
 
 

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Post by David Sandbor » Fri, 04 May 2012 01:15:40

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> Heaven needed another Schwarzcopf. WTF on this being announced for
> removal 10 days prior to opening day.

I'm kind of surprised it didn't happen a long time ago.  Wildcat didn't
fit with the rest of the park's roller coaster image.  It was a holdover
from another time.  I'll certainly miss it.

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Post by BaSSiStiS » Fri, 04 May 2012 03:00:44


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> Heaven needed another Schwarzcopf. WTF on this being announced for
> removal 10 days prior to opening day.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

It's not like anything meaningful can be squeezed in between there and
the road anyways, is there?

 
 
 

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Post by tyl.. » Fri, 04 May 2012 08:02:23

I imagine parts sourcing for those is rather...interesting at this point? Is Wieland still supporting the old rides?
 
 
 

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Fri, 04 May 2012 08:44:47

So its definitely not being relocated elsewhere (either in or out of
the Cedar Fair chain)?

I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
anyway.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Althoff J » Fri, 04 May 2012 08:59:34

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> I imagine parts sourcing for those is rather...interesting at this
> point? Is Wieland still supporting the old rides?

I thought he was.  To make it more interesting, rcdb shows the Wildcat
model as (theoretically, at least) still in production.

As if we didn't already know that this decision is batshit insane, I'm
hearing chatter that...in spite of appearances...not only is there
nothing wrong with the ride, but the State had already signed off on it
for the season.  

One thing is painfully obvious:  The final decision was made this
morning.

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Post by Brandon Strouphaue » Fri, 04 May 2012 20:30:56

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> Heaven needed another Schwarzcopf. WTF on this being announced for
> removal 10 days prior to opening day.

Does anyone know if it's even still there? Like did they begin dismantling it yet.
 
 
 

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Post by Rastus O'Ging » Fri, 04 May 2012 22:41:32



Quote:

> > I imagine parts sourcing for those is rather...interesting at this
> > point? Is Wieland still supporting the old rides?

> I thought he was. ?To make it more interesting, rcdb shows the Wildcat
> model as (theoretically, at least) still in production.

> As if we didn't already know that this decision is batshit insane, I'm
> hearing chatter that...in spite of appearances...not only is there
> nothing wrong with the ride, but the State had already signed off on it
> for the season.

> One thing is painfully obvious: ?The final decision was made this
> morning.

> -- Dave Althoff, Jr.
> ? ? /X\ ? ? ? ?_ ? ? ?*** Respect rides. They do not respect you. ***
> ? ?/XXX\ ? ? ?/X\ ? ? /X\_ ? ? ?_ ? ? /X\__ ? ? ?_ ? ? _ ? ? ? ?_____
> ? /XXXXX\ ? ?/XXX\ ? /XXXX\_ ? /X\ ? /XXXXX\ ? ?/X\ ? /X\ ? ? ?/XXXXX
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> the body of your message for a quicker response.

It sure sounds to me like a structural issue was found that was deemed
too costly to fix, during it's pre-season checks.  If that isn't the
case, then yes, it sounds pretty crazy.

RO

 
 
 

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Post by Rik » Sat, 05 May 2012 10:03:20

Quote:
> I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
> imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
> high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
> anyway.

Magic Mountain has given up a few coasters recently, too -- three in
the last six years.  The last coaster CP gave up was a Jumbo Jet in
1978.

Rik

 
 
 

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Sat, 05 May 2012 20:23:07


Quote:
> > I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
> > imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
> > high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
> > anyway.

> Magic Mountain has given up a few coasters recently, too -- three in
> the last six years. ?The last coaster CP gave up was a Jumbo Jet in
> 1978.

> Rik

Yeah, but Cedar Point hasn't gotten a new one since Maverick in 2007,
while Magic Mountain has continued to up their count/keep it steady.
 
 
 

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Post by ansle » Sat, 05 May 2012 20:42:52

Quote:


> > > I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
> > > imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
> > > high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
> > > anyway.

> > Magic Mountain has given up a few coasters recently, too -- three in
> > the last six years. ?The last coaster CP gave up was a Jumbo Jet in
> > 1978.

> > Rik

> Yeah, but Cedar Point hasn't gotten a new one since Maverick in 2007,
> while Magic Mountain has continued to up their count/keep it steady.

I'm a bit surprised that CP has had no new coaster since '07, this is their longest drought since the 79-85 installations of Jr. Gemini and Avalanche!

Ted

 
 
 

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Post by David H.--REMOVE » Sun, 06 May 2012 04:36:06

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>> > > I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
>> > > imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
>> > > high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
>> > > anyway.

>> > Magic Mountain has given up a few coasters recently, too -- three in
>> > the last six years. ?The last coaster CP gave up was a Jumbo Jet in
>> > 1978.

>> > Rik

>> Yeah, but Cedar Point hasn't gotten a new one since Maverick in 2007,
>> while Magic Mountain has continued to up their count/keep it steady.

>I'm a bit surprised that CP has had no new coaster since '07, this is their longest drought since the 79-85 installations of Jr. Gemini and Avalanche!

>Ted

But why would we be surprised?

That was the whole point of buying out and shutting down Geauga Lake.
Without nearby competition, they wouldn't need to add as many new big
rides.

And at this point, how good of an investment is it to constantly add new,
expensive coasters, anyways?  Sure, we'd all like it (both die-hard
enthusiasts and local fans alike).  But they already have one of the best
collections of coasters on the planet.  Do they really need to add new
coasters every other year to keep bringing people in?  

If so, then they're really not a good long-term investment.

And if not, then why should they keep adding them?

I can't imagine that at this point they get their money's worth on adding
new coasters.  At least very regularly.

 "With the first link, a chain is forged.  The first speech censured,
 the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us
 all irrevocably."  -Capt. Jean-Luc Picard
                     "The Drumhead", _Star Trek: The Next Generation_

 
 
 

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Sun, 06 May 2012 07:14:29

On May 4, 3:36?pm, "David H.--REMOVE \"STOPSPAM\" to reply"

Quote:




> >> > > I always thought it was odd that the ride stayed as long as it did. I
> >> > > imagine for a good while it was simply to keep its coaster count so
> >> > > high... I wonder if they've given up competing with Magic Mountain
> >> > > anyway.

> >> > Magic Mountain has given up a few coasters recently, too -- three in
> >> > the last six years. ?The last coaster CP gave up was a Jumbo Jet in
> >> > 1978.

> >> > Rik

> >> Yeah, but Cedar Point hasn't gotten a new one since Maverick in 2007,
> >> while Magic Mountain has continued to up their count/keep it steady.

> >I'm a bit surprised that CP has had no new coaster since '07, this is their longest drought since the 79-85 installations of Jr. Gemini and Avalanche!

> >Ted

> But why would we be surprised?

> That was the whole point of buying out and shutting down Geauga Lake.
> Without nearby competition, they wouldn't need to add as many new big
> rides.

> And at this point, how good of an investment is it to constantly add new,
> expensive coasters, anyways? ?Sure, we'd all like it (both die-hard
> enthusiasts and local fans alike). ?But they already have one of the best
> collections of coasters on the planet. ?Do they really need to add new
> coasters every other year to keep bringing people in?

> If so, then they're really not a good long-term investment.

> And if not, then why should they keep adding them?

> I can't imagine that at this point they get their money's worth on adding
> new coasters. ?At least very regularly.

> ?"With the first link, a chain is forged. ?The first speech censured,
> ?the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us
> ?all irrevocably." ?-Capt. Jean-Luc Picard
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?"The Drumhead", _Star Trek: The Next Generation_

Not only did they buy and shut down Geauga Lake, they bought the only
other competitor - Kings Island. Between the two of them, now that KI
now has the CF signature hyper, I don't expect much new coaster
activity from either for a while. Both parks (more Cedar Point than
Kings Island) can now work more on their non-coaster lineup, which is
probably generally a good thing, for now.
 
 
 

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Post by David Sandbor » Sun, 06 May 2012 09:08:19


 "David H.--REMOVE \"STOPSPAM\" to reply"

Quote:

> But they already have one of the best
> collections of coasters on the planet.

Replace "best" by "biggest" and it's a bit more accurate IMHO.

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Post by Surf Dance Chri » Sun, 06 May 2012 09:20:09



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> ?"David H.--REMOVE \"STOPSPAM\" to reply"


> > But they already have one of the best
> > collections of coasters on the planet.

> Replace "best" by "biggest" and it's a bit more accurate IMHO.

> --
> Dave Sandborg
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Definitely agree. None of their coasters are really best in their
genre, except possibly Maverick. Everything else I can find a much
better version of elsewhere.

Raptor -  Batman or Montu
Magnum - Steel Force, Phantom's Revenge, etc.
Blue Streak - many examples
Mean Streak - most wood coasters
TTD - Xcelerator
Cedar Creek Mine Ride - Big Thunder Mt
Millennium Force - SROS/Bizarro
Mantis - Green Lantern
Iron Dragon - Ninja or Flight Deck
Wicked Twister - Posessed
Corskcrew - Viper
Disaster Transport - Avalanche
Woodstock Express - Dragon
Gemini - may be the only other best of its genre besides Maverick,
unless you consider Kennywood Racer (even though it's wood)