HELP SAVE THE DRACHEN FIRE!!!

HELP SAVE THE DRACHEN FIRE!!!

Post by Kyle Macke » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:25:53


I have a couple of people making a website to help save the crachen
fire or at least open it again. Personal experiences, picture and
anything to make this a great site will help greatly.

very much.

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Post by DJ » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:50:20

I thought that Drachen Fire had already been taken down.  You're talking
BGW, right?

Then again, I haven't been to BGW since before Alpengeist when all the had
was DF, LNM, and BBW.

-DJ


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> I have a couple of people making a website to help save the crachen
> fire or at least open it again. Personal experiences, picture and
> anything to make this a great site will help greatly.

> very much.

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Post by Jim W » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:13:59



Quote:
> I thought that Drachen Fire had already been taken down.  You're
talking
> BGW, right?

>  (snip)
> -DJ

I think it is SBNO still and isn't it for sale?
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Post by Kyle Macke » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:30:09

Yeah Drachan Fire is still up. We have a website now.

http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/drachenfire/index.html
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Post by Johnnyupsidow » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:05:59

I don't wish to start any rumors. But here is an interesting thought.   It
has been noted that last year there was a bald eagles nest on part of The
Drachen Fire. Now Busch Gardens is all about animals. Well. Under The
Protected Species Act you have to maintain atleast  an Acre Clearance and It
may be 5 acres clearance for the Birds to live!  If it is true than the park
will have a hard time trying to move The Coaster. I believe the coaster is
still Up for sale ...About 2 months ago somebody posted that it was still
for sale at 4.5 million and you move.  That's all I got.
See ya on The Next Lift Hill
Johnny Upsidedown.

Quote:
> I thought that Drachen Fire had already been taken down.  You're talking
> BGW, right?

> Then again, I haven't been to BGW since before Alpengeist when all the had
> was DF, LNM, and BBW.

> -DJ



> > I have a couple of people making a website to help save the crachen
> > fire or at least open it again. Personal experiences, picture and
> > anything to make this a great site will help greatly.

> > very much.

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Post by Kyle Macke » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:35:26

The price is down to 4 million http://www.italintl.com/usdride.htm yo
will see it under roller coasters. We are trying to get
www.savedrachenfire.com registered. Hopefully everything goes our way.
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Post by Dr. Smo » Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:11:33



Quote:
>The price is down to 4 million http://www.italintl.com/usdride.htm yo
>will see it under roller coasters. We are trying to get
>www.savedrachenfire.com registered. Hopefully everything goes our way.
>--

Come to think of it, Cedar Point could keep its claim of most
full-circuit coasters by simply purchasing that ride. :-) Although God
knows I don't know where they'd put it, but they would have a much
needed custom multi-looper (besides Corkscrew of course.)

Actually I've not ridden DF (BGTOC didn't have it open the day I
visited), but I've heard its rough. Exactly how rough? Rough as in
square wheel syndrome, or rough as in constant headbanging? If its
just headbanging, all they need to do is replace the horsecollars with
lap bars (might require some new custom trains, but they can't be too
expensive, can they?) although I have a feeling Busch won't go for it.
Its a pity, it looks like a good ride, pity to see it rust away
because a few beancounters won't make a simple adjustment.

BTW: Is Drachen Fire the only Arrow multilooper without a 360 veritcal
loop? (not counting the off-the-shelf corkscrews)

Chrs "Dr. Smoky"
(who knows that CP wouldn't purchase DF, although it would be nice to
see the ride stay somewhere in the USA. And yes I do know that CP can
keep its full circuit ride claim without a purchase, although the ride
would definately bring a nice ROI)


 
 
 

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Post by rob.. » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:03:08

Yes, its rough.

We rode it twice, on the second time, my 8 year old daughter came off
of it and was dizzy.  The ride op was watching and asking to make sure
she was ok.

You see a new trend in coasters away from the cork screw.  It may seem
like a cool ride element, but it leads to alot of head bashing and it's
not that fun when you go thru it.  The first part of the ride is cool,
the big hills, the cobra roll, but then the ending is bad.

Drachen Fire suffers from the same fate as Steal Phantom of Kennywood.
The beginning is cool, but then the loops at the end doom the ride,
it's too rough.   They would have to do the same thing to Drachen Fire
as they're doing to Revenge of Steal Phantom.

Take out the loops at the end, and put in a different restraint
system.  Seems like BGW doesn't want to spend the money to do this.

Talk to you later.



Quote:


> >The price is down to 4 million http://www.italintl.com/usdride.htm yo
> >will see it under roller coasters. We are trying to get
> >www.savedrachenfire.com registered. Hopefully everything goes our
way.
> >--
> Come to think of it, Cedar Point could keep its claim of most
> full-circuit coasters by simply purchasing that ride. :-) Although God
> knows I don't know where they'd put it, but they would have a much
> needed custom multi-looper (besides Corkscrew of course.)

> Actually I've not ridden DF (BGTOC didn't have it open the day I
> visited), but I've heard its rough. Exactly how rough? Rough as in
> square wheel syndrome, or rough as in constant headbanging? If its
> just headbanging, all they need to do is replace the horsecollars with
> lap bars (might require some new custom trains, but they can't be too
> expensive, can they?) although I have a feeling Busch won't go for it.
> Its a pity, it looks like a good ride, pity to see it rust away
> because a few beancounters won't make a simple adjustment.

> BTW: Is Drachen Fire the only Arrow multilooper without a 360 veritcal
> loop? (not counting the off-the-shelf corkscrews)

> Chrs "Dr. Smoky"
> (who knows that CP wouldn't purchase DF, although it would be nice to
> see the ride stay somewhere in the USA. And yes I do know that CP can
> keep its full circuit ride claim without a purchase, although the ride
> would definately bring a nice ROI)



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Post by DJ » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:58:18

Assuming its the DF at BGW...

If I remember right, the problem is head banging from bad changes of
direction. They were very sudden with little or no banking.  If you have a
picture of it from above like I do in a book I have, you can really see it.
Its horrible.

But you can't use lap bars.  It has 4 inversions.  Lap bars on a looper are
a safety hazard.  Gotta have the OTSRs.

-DJ


Quote:


> >The price is down to 4 million http://www.italintl.com/usdride.htm yo
> >will see it under roller coasters. We are trying to get
> >www.savedrachenfire.com registered. Hopefully everything goes our way.
> >--
> Come to think of it, Cedar Point could keep its claim of most
> full-circuit coasters by simply purchasing that ride. :-) Although God
> knows I don't know where they'd put it, but they would have a much
> needed custom multi-looper (besides Corkscrew of course.)

> Actually I've not ridden DF (BGTOC didn't have it open the day I
> visited), but I've heard its rough. Exactly how rough? Rough as in
> square wheel syndrome, or rough as in constant headbanging? If its
> just headbanging, all they need to do is replace the horsecollars with
> lap bars (might require some new custom trains, but they can't be too
> expensive, can they?) although I have a feeling Busch won't go for it.
> Its a pity, it looks like a good ride, pity to see it rust away
> because a few beancounters won't make a simple adjustment.

> BTW: Is Drachen Fire the only Arrow multilooper without a 360 veritcal
> loop? (not counting the off-the-shelf corkscrews)

> Chrs "Dr. Smoky"
> (who knows that CP wouldn't purchase DF, although it would be nice to
> see the ride stay somewhere in the USA. And yes I do know that CP can
> keep its full circuit ride claim without a purchase, although the ride
> would definately bring a nice ROI)



 
 
 

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Post by Robert Ma » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:16:09

Quote:
>Subject: Re: HELP SAVE THE DRACHEN FIRE!!!Here is a thought

>Date: 1/17/01 5:58 PM Eastern Standard Time

>Assuming its the DF at BGW...

>If I remember right, the problem is head banging from bad changes of
>direction. They were very sudden with little or no banking.  If you have a
>picture of it from above like I do in a book I have, you can really see it.
>Its horrible.

>But you can't use lap bars.  It has 4 inversions.  Lap bars on a looper are
>a safety hazard.  Gotta have the OTSRs.
e ride
>> would defi

Not true there are several looping lap bar coasters. I am not sure about multi
element loopers though.

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Post by Kyle Macke » Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:54:33

Please feel free to stop by the site.
http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/drachenfire/index.html

YOU COULD MAKE COASTER HISTORY!!!!

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