Coaster Celebration Extremely Doubtful

Coaster Celebration Extremely Doubtful

Post by Sam Mar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:24:25


It's now approximately 48 hrs since I posted a request for e-mails to send to
the "proper" person to change their mind about not having the Coaster
Celebration this year.  (The method recommended by Great Adventure staffers)

I've received a pathetic 10 e-mails!

I think the coaster event has almost a ZERO chance of being revived with that
kind of response. The *** "Great Adventurers" didn't bother to send in
their plea!

SO I guess maybe we should look north to Lake Compounce, or Rye Playland to
host a pre Cyclone Celebration event, cause with the pitiful response to
Coaster Celebration being cancelled, I'm afraid we'll just have to look
elswhere for a gathering on Sept 14th!

Sadly,

SAM

 
 
 

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Post by FlyerAC » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:00:34

Quote:

>It's now approximately 48 hrs since I posted a request for e-mails to send to
>the "proper" person to change their mind about not having the Coaster
>Celebration this year.  (The method recommended by Great Adventure staffers)

>I've received a pathetic 10 e-mails!

>I think the coaster event has almost a ZERO chance of being revived with that
>kind of response. The *** "Great Adventurers" didn't bother to send in
>their plea!

>SO I guess maybe we should look north to Lake Compounce, or Rye Playland to
>host a pre Cyclone Celebration event, cause with the pitiful response to
>Coaster Celebration being cancelled, I'm afraid we'll just have to look
>elswhere for a gathering on Sept 14th!

>Sadly,

>SAM

Sam, I appreciate your effort but please don't come down so *** people.
Geez, I mean, an entire park up north is in danger of meeting the wrecking ball
and still people haven't made the effort to donate. A coaster event is hardly
something to panic about.

Your attack on the *** "Great Adventurers" is also not warranted as many
of us are planning to address the issue shortly and seriously. I'm as bummed as
the next guy that CC may no longer exist but this is just the typical Six Flags
corporate bullshit in effect. Believe me, I'm *this* close to personally
shutting the door on Six Flags. My dollar and efforts are much more well spent
and appreciated elsewhere.

                     Live to Ride,
                       Adam Revesz (who knows it's near impossible to fight the
corporate giants)

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Mc Inern » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:22:16

Thank you Adam, that was an excellent answer.

When something happens within a family, the family will deal with it in their
own way. The next door neighbor does not need to be involved. Their support is
appreciated, but we need to keep the family problems at home.

As for Corporate Adam, this is not a case of that. It is that budget ***that
is the main cause, they forget that goodwill is an asset that is part of a sale
for companies. The goodwill is slowly getting lost in the SF chain, I do agree.

Ed
Thank You all that I enjoyed the season with. 2001 was not a banner year with
coasters, it was a banner year of meeting people. I take the people banner to
be more important.

 
 
 

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Post by Ted Ansl » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:00:40

Quote:


>>It's now approximately 48 hrs since I posted a request for e-mails to send to
>>the "proper" person to change their mind about not having the Coaster
>>Celebration this year.  (The method recommended by Great Adventure staffers)

>>I've received a pathetic 10 e-mails!

>>I think the coaster event has almost a ZERO chance of being revived with that
>>kind of response. The *** "Great Adventurers" didn't bother to send in
>>their plea!

>>SO I guess maybe we should look north to Lake Compounce, or Rye Playland to
>>host a pre Cyclone Celebration event, cause with the pitiful response to
>>Coaster Celebration being cancelled, I'm afraid we'll just have to look
>>elswhere for a gathering on Sept 14th!

>>Sadly,

>>SAM

>Sam, I appreciate your effort but please don't come down so *** people.
>Geez, I mean, an entire park up north is in danger of meeting the wrecking ball
>and still people haven't made the effort to donate. A coaster event is hardly
>something to panic about.

>Your attack on the *** "Great Adventurers" is also not warranted as many
>of us are planning to address the issue shortly and seriously. I'm as bummed as
>the next guy that CC may no longer exist but this is just the typical Six Flags
>corporate bullshit in effect. Believe me, I'm *this* close to personally
>shutting the door on Six Flags. My dollar and efforts are much more well spent
>and appreciated elsewhere.

Hmmm, Adam.  first you say you are planning to address the issue shortly.  
Then you say "I'm *this* close to personally
shutting the door on Six Flags. My dollar and efforts are much more well
spent  and appreciated elsewhere".  

I hate ot say it, but I would bet that
talk like this, and all the SF bashing on RRC, is one of the reasons that
SFGAd does not want to hold the event.  People like to bash the park on here
then attend the event?   That doensn't make sense to me and if i was the park
why would I hold an event for a bunch of coaster enthusiasts who do nothing
but rip apart Six Flags?  IMHO the majority of criticism of SF is completely
un-warrented and out of line.  I still don't get the majority of SF bashing.
There is absolutely nothing I have seen at a SF park that I have not seen at
other parks, including some of the popular traditional parks on RRC.  
I know SF has its problems, but people continue to rip SF apart rather than
attempt to help the parks with good PR and constructive private criticisms
via letters etc..   It is clear to me that many SF parks have vastly improved
over the last 2-3 seasons, dependent on the park, and that they continue
to improve the SF experience.  

With that said, I would hate to see the SFGAd Coaster Celebration go the
way of the DoDo.  I thought it was a great event every year!

Ted Ansley
**Rollercoaster Fan<atic>**

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Mc Inern » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:19:44

Quote:
>I hate ot say it, but I would bet that
>talk like this, and all the SF bashing on RRC, is one of the reasons that
>SFGAd does not want to hold the event.

I do not really think this is the reason Ted, but at the same time, it would
certainly not help the situation. When I first came online it was a total Great
Adventure hate fest, so this is nothing new.

Whatever happens, we are working to try to get this event scheduled. Not that
we do not want outside help, but we would rather GA people be the ones to work
on this. If any park employees went to outsiders to help with this, well, they
again went the wrong way and are making mistakes all over again. What else is
new though? We still appreciate our park none-the-less, even though they do not
understand this. Someday they will get it. Does not seem like they will in the
near future though.

Ed
Thank You all that I enjoyed the season with. 2001 was not a banner year with
coasters, it was a banner year of meeting people. I take the people banner to
be more important.

 
 
 

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Post by Coastin Ste » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:08:45

from my talking with Kris (of GAdv PR) at Eastcoaster,  it seems as
though CC7 is still a possibility.
    The more we express our desire for it to happen (here and however)
the more likely it is to happen.
   So keep these threads going,   GAdv WILL see our pleas.

    Coastin  Steve

http://community.webtv.net/Coastin_Steve/CoastinStevesHome

 
 
 

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Post by Sam Mar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:56:26

Quote:
>Your attack on the *** "Great Adventurers" is also not warranted as many
>of us are planning to address the issue shortly and seriously.

Attacks! attacks!

Why does every goddam comment have to be called an attack???

Well it's so nice to know that you're planning to address the issue!

Couldn't even ONE of you have sent me a message saying "we're working on
something" ?

SAM

(left out in the cold wondering where the hell any of you are!)

 
 
 

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Post by Sam Mar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:59:21

Quote:
>When something happens within a family, the family will deal with it in their
>own way.

So the rest of us are not allowed to be part of the solution?  

COME ON!  this isn't the freakin coaster mafia, its a coaster celebration FOR
EVERYONE, and the saving of it should be something EVERYONE should be permitted
to be a part of!

SAM

 
 
 

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Post by Sam Mar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:04:02

Quote:
>Not that
>we do not want outside help, but we would rather GA people be the ones to
>work
>on this.

Fine!  when the event doesn't happen we'll know EXACTLY who to blame!
 
 
 

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Post by Sam Mar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:42:06

Quote:
>When something happens within a family, the family will deal with it in their
>own way. The next door neighbor does not need to be involved.

I'm out

 I apologize for everything I've tried to do, and whatever I said to this
point. I've trashed the e-mails I collected, and I'm walking away from the save
CC effort.

good luck!

 
 
 

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Post by Kyle Mack » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 00:35:22

Quote:
>SO I guess maybe we should look north to Lake Compounce

Im down for this idea. I would love ANOTHER event at LC. It makes me happy when
new people I havent met come to my homepark.

                                          Dropped and Dashed
                                                600+ Times

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Urbanowi » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:36:31

There will be a good chance that Cyclone Celebration will also cease to exist
if Coaster Celebration is cancelled.

The idea for our "CC" was that there be another park in the vicinity to host an
event that same weekend, building attendance at both parks by making an even
bigger, more attractive package.  Since our special enthusiast events have
rarely been attended by more than 50 people, there is little reason to assume
that keeping Cyclone Celebration scheduled will attract a great enough number
without Coaster Celebration also being held.  

As of right now, I have scheduled only two special event days:  Cyclone
Celebration 2, on March 24, held as a replacement because of our early closing
last September, and in conjunction with Colleen Whyte and the NYC Metro ACE
Region, Cyclone Appreciation Day on June 29.  Any chance of Cyclone Celebration
3 happening in September will be contingent on whether or not Coaster
Celebration happens.  

  Steve
  Coney Island's Astroland 40th Anniversary 1962-2002
  Home of the World-Famous CYCLONE 75th Anniversary 1927-2002
  COME CELEBRATE WITH US

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Turne » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 03:21:59

Let me give Great Adventure some good reasons why they should hold Coaster
Celebration.

1.) It's a good end of the summer event
2.) Out of all the parks in SF chain , Great Adventure is the only one that
is doing this type of Celebration
3.) The park has some great coasters and flat rides, and it's a nice park to
visit when it's not running at full capacity , like in the middle of the
summer.
4.)It's one of the few parks that I know that has an un-offical fan club
that is very active

No matter what coaster club that you belong to , Great Adventure's Coaster
Celebration always made you feel welcome at the park. What I also enjoy
about this event , is that some of the employees get to join in with the
rest of us coaster nuts and have fun.

Now what happened last year ?

The World Trade Center , pure and simple. A lot of people that fly to this
event more than likely canceled their plans to fly , I would have. That
being said , that was last year , this year promises to be a lot better.
Security on the airlines is up , people once again are starting to feel good
about air travel.

My only problem with Coaster Celebration, is the date change. The change
from the weekend after Labor Day , to 2 weekends after Labor Day makes
impossible for me to attend , my schedule conflicts. That 's the only reason
that I haven't attended Coaster Celebration lately , is the date change.

Here's some simple math to look at , $105,000.00 of revenue will be lost
that weekend if Coaster Celebration is canceled , that's not including
registration for the event. Lost registration revnue would be about $21,000.
I based the in park estimate on 350 people spending an average $150 a day in
the park for 2 days. I based the registration fee on $65 a person average.
Now that is about $126,000.00 on top of what the gate is going to take in
for the day , I would not want to lose that revenue.

Coaster Celebartion is one of those events that is looked forward too , just
like Cedar Point's Coaster Mainia , Stark Raven Mad , Timberfest just to
name a few off the top of my head.

If I was the park , I would take all the e-mails , and all the RRC posts ,
put them on a desk and gauge the response to the event. My guess would be
that there's an overwhelming support for the event.

I would hate to see Coaster Celebration canceled , I always enjoyed
attending it.

Bruce.............................

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