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Post by Winn » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Please provide my friends and I with tips for our Labor Day visit to CP.
Which coasters shouldn't we miss, what seats to sit on, which ones we
should miss, what other rides are good, how long are lines, etc.
We can return the favor for KI.  We are season pass holders.  Thanks.
 
 
 

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Post by Noodl » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> I think there are only 4 coaster worth riding... and in this order.

> 1) Raptor
> 2) Magnum
> 3) Blue Streak (yes, Blue Streak... it is quick and there is great
> air time on this ride... a coaster classic)
> 4) Mean Streak

   Just to present another opinion, FWIW...  I'd remove Mean Streak from
the #4 slot and replace it with Gemini!  If for no other reason than the
wonderful headchopper effect on that one hill (hope I'm not ruining any
surprises here).  It sure caught me off-guard, even when I was looking
for it.

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Post by MagnmXL2 » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00


[snip for brevity]

Quote:
>10. Disaster Transport - unlike the Mean Streak which
>has divided opinions,
>EVERYONE hates this ride.  Plus, the lines are long.  
>For these 2 reasons, I
>recommend skipping this unless you
>ABSOLUTELY MUST see why everyone hates it.

I don't disagree with your putting DT at the end of your newbie list, but
I do disagree that "EVERYONE" hates this ride.
For an Intamin bobsled, it's not too bad as far as "rideability" goes
(much better than SFGAm Rolling Thunder). I personally don't like any
theming on a ride (spend the cash on the ride) so I think the DT theming
is a waste. But I wouldn't hate it for that reason. DT is worth a ride on
a slow day when you can GUESS that the line isn't too long (or trust the
"door attendant").

If they just turned off all the lights on the ride portion it would be a
much better ride, IMHO. I've ridden it when the lights were partially down
and it made it more enjoyable.
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Post by David Salv » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


> > I think there are only 4 coaster worth riding... and in this order.

> > 1) Raptor
> > 2) Magnum
> > 3) Blue Streak (yes, Blue Streak... it is quick and there is great
> > air time on this ride... a coaster classic)
> > 4) Mean Streak

>    Just to present another opinion, FWIW...  I'd remove Mean Streak from
> the #4 slot and replace it with Gemini!  If for no other reason than the
> wonderful headchopper effect on that one hill (hope I'm not ruining any
> surprises here).  It sure caught me off-guard, even when I was looking
> for it.

For those of use lucky enough to be seasoned CP veterans, both of these
arguments are true -- once you've been on Iron Dragon, Corkscrew, Disaster
Transport, Wildcat, Mineride ONCE, there is no need to waste your time
in the lines again.

HOWEVER, I do not feel that this is the best advice to give to a CP newbie.
With the possible exception of Disaster Transport, I think that a newbie
should ride ALL of the coasters.  To avoid long lines on the lesser coasters,
I suggest the following order which starts 1/2 way back and goes around
clockwise:  

1. Wildcat - the line is non-existent when the park opens but gets very long and
slow later in the day due to very slow boarding.  Ride it first!
2. Iron Dragon - it is right across from Wildcat and also has very small lines
if you get there right when the park opens.  If you've never been on a suspended
coaster, this is certainly worth experiencing.  I would only skip it if you
have been on a good suspended coaster before.
3. Mean Streak - next in line if you follow the fronier trail.  There is NO WAY
that a newbie should miss this coaster.  Don't let other coaster buffs who may
dislike this coaster convince you to skip it.  Make up your own mind.  There are
as many of us who LOVE this coaster as there are those who hate it.
4. Mine ride - skippable, but will have NO line early in the day, so why not
ride it?
5. Magnum - simply the best.  It is worth a 2 hour wait.
6. Gemini - I agree with the 2nd poster above.  Do NOT skip this ride.  The
line is usually short, too.
7. Corkscrew - lets you add another coaster to your list.  

Depending on the crowd size, you can do all of these by 1-2 pm (assuming you
got to the park before opening time and were able to get on the Wildcat/Iron
Dragon before any lines formed.  Now is a good time to eat lunch.

8. Raptor - the long line will give your lunch time to settle.  
9. Blue Streak - great air time!
10. Disaster Transport - unlike the Mean Streak which has divided opinions,
EVERYONE hates this ride.  Plus, the lines are long.  For these 2 reasons, I
recommend skipping this unless you ABSOLUTELY MUST see why everyone hates it.

You now have the rest of the day to re-ride the coasters that you like best.
Following this plan, a newbie gets to ride all of the CP coasters.  The first
few will be walk-ons maybe.  

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Post by William Donabedi » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I think there are only 4 coaster worth riding... and in this order.

1) Raptor
2) Magnum
3) Blue Streak (yes, Blue Streak... it is quick and there is great
air time on this ride... a coaster classic)
4) Mean Streak

Ride these all day. If Demon Drop is less than a half an hour... ride
it. Your stomach will be in your throat before you know it!

 
 
 

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Post by nac120700-Todes » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>> > I think there are only 4 coaster worth riding... and in this order.

>> > 1) Raptor
>> > 2) Magnum
>> > 3) Blue Streak (yes, Blue Streak... it is quick and there is great
>> > air time on this ride... a coaster classic)
>> > 4) Mean Streak

>10. Disaster Transport - unlike the Mean Streak which has divided opinions,
>EVERYONE hates this ride.  Plus, the lines are long.  For these 2 reasons, I
 ^^^^^^^^
>recommend skipping this unless you ABSOLUTELY MUST see why everyone hates it.

I firmly DON'T agree.  Sure, it's not Magnum or Raptor, but it is a different
type of ride.  I for one think that having it in darkness has improved the
ride in general.  However, don't waste hours in line, unless, of course, you're
very hot.
 
 
 

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Post by ken reigha » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

[Discussion of Cedar Point Coasters...]
: 10. Disaster Transport - unlike the Mean Streak which has divided opinions,
: EVERYONE hates this ride.  Plus, the lines are long.  For these 2 reasons, I
: recommend skipping this unless you ABSOLUTELY MUST see why everyone hates it.

Here's a way to sort of save this lame ride.  Wear sunglasses so you can't
see where you're going (or the cheesey effects).  However, it is still only
worth it when the line is short.

Ken R.

 
 
 

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Post by Deborah L. Marti » Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Please remember that the parks also cater to children under the
54 inch height restrictions (Raptor, Batman, etc.)  The children
are a LARGE market and they thoroughly enjoy rides like Iron
Dragon.  These coasters have an important place in creating young
coaster fanatics like us. They need BEGINNER coasters.

I have a 10 year old daughter.  Watching her grow and challenge
each size and type of coaster was a blast.

Debbie Martin

 
 
 

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Post by ansl » Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:00:00



Quote:


>> I think there are only 4 coaster worth riding... and in this order.

>> 1) Raptor
>> 2) Magnum
>> 3) Blue Streak (yes, Blue Streak... it is quick and there is great
>> air time on this ride... a coaster classic)
>> 4) Mean Streak

>   Just to present another opinion, FWIW...  I'd remove Mean Streak from
>the #4 slot and replace it with Gemini!  If for no other reason than the
>wonderful headchopper effect on that one hill (hope I'm not ruining any
>surprises here).  It sure caught me off-guard, even when I was looking
>for it.

For me the coasters at CP fall into 3 groups: very good, rideable and
fun, and boring
My list of CP coasters:

1. Raptor
2. Magnum
3. Mean Streak (please, no flames, I really like it a lot!)
4. Gemini
5. Blue Streak

All the coasters in the first group are excellant.  Most parks would die
to have any of these coasters.

6. Corkscrew
7. Wildcat
8. CC Mine Ride

The 2nd group coasters can be good fun, but not very thrilling.

9. Disaster Transport
10. Iron Dragon

The last 2 above are just plain boring.  I'll still ride them but there
definitely not the best coasters in the park!

I can't comment on the Jr. Gemini due to lack of rides!

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Post by William Donabedi » Sun, 27 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
Buck writes: My experience is only those Magnum/Mean Streak-loving

size queens HATE (such a strong word!) Disaster Transport.  Then
again, those
types of people don't really care for anything under 100' tall (like
the wonderful Blue Streak!).

Uhhh... actually, I like the Blue Streak yet HATE Disaster Transport.
Disaster is a perfect name for it... that is exactly what it is.
Essentially CP took an already lame ride (Bobsled), and made the
mistake of spending MORE money on it. I cringe to think of the
dollars wasted. It is like taking an AMC Pacer and spending the money
to repaint it and fix the transmission. Dump the thing! Realize a
loss and move on. If you are going to build a coaster, build a GOOD
coaster. It doesn't have to be the biggest or newest techno thing
(i.e. The Raven at Holiday World), just a great ride. If CP wanted an
air conditioned indoor ride, they could have scraped DP and with the
money they spent on the changes built another ride.

 
 
 

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Post by William Donabedi » Sun, 27 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
Debbie Martin writes: Please remember that the parks also cater to

children under the 54 inch height restrictions (Raptor, Batman, etc.)
 The children are a LARGE market and they thoroughly enjoy rides like
Iron Dragon.  These coasters have an important place in creating
young
coaster fanatics like us. They need BEGINNER coasters.

I have a 10 year old daughter.  Watching her grow and challenge
each size and type of coaster was a blast.

-------------

That is what kiddie rides and kiddie coasters are for. If you're
going to build a coaster for ***s... build it for ***s.
Otherwise, stick it in the Smurf section.

 
 
 

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Post by Walt Schmi » Mon, 28 Aug 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
>That is what kiddie rides and kiddie coasters are for. If you're
>going to build a coaster for ***s... build it for ***s.
>Otherwise, stick it in the Smurf section.

But what about those ***s (and there are many) who don't want to tackle the
Magnums and Raptors of this world?

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Post by Cp Irvi » Mon, 28 Aug 1995 04:00:00

heya!

FWIW...  I'd remove Mean Streak from

Quote:
>the #4 slot and replace it with Gemini!  If for no other reason than the
>wonderful headchopper effect on that one hill (hope I'm not ruining any
>surprises here).  It sure caught me off-guard, even when I was looking
>for it.

    Well, I personally still like Meanie quite a bit, but oh, yah, can I
agree with you on Gemini! Say what you want, folks, about it being
whatever to not be thrilling to you, but to those of us who crave airtime,
 it can't be beat - especially the short lines. I've been riding it since
I was 5, and it's always been in my Top Ten, even over other favorites.
And in riding it for so long, I've found so many neat tricks to try out
on it - the "backwards" one being the most thrilling change I've ever had
on a coaster. There's still even a challenge of keeping those hands up
during the fourth drop. So, IMHO, it's underrated in most lists, for
_whatever_  personal reasons. Love the "just the loose lap bars in the
last blue train's seat", the headchopper drop, the great first drop,
everything!

   (BTW - Blue Streak note -  I posted once before but want to say it
again. While riding Azure with a pal, we didn't know it but our seat
belts came undone not long before the first drop. Here I was, hands up,
and un-restrained! I came out unharmed, but shaken. Whatta ride that was -
 airtime like you would not believe! <don't try this one, folks!> Mostly
I wanted to post again to let you know, for those who are jittery, that
this ride is quite safe. I still hear people saying, "But as they get
older, don't they........?" No, folks, Blue Streak is one safe Coaster
Classic, BUT IN NO WAY AM I SUGGESTING  YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN/SHOULD
RIDE UNRESTRAINED. It is UNSAFE and against the Law. Don't do it on any
coaster, anywhere - this incident was just a fluke and something I don't
intend to do on purpose. Why risk your life when there's so many other
coasters to ride? <VBG> )


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Post by Strid » Mon, 28 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Just to throw in my .02 cents...

        I like Distaster Transport too.  What's so horrible about it?  
The only thing I would do is make it longer.  Other than that it was
pretty cool.  And if there's usually a 45 minute wait like there usually
is than there must be a lot of other people who like it too.  And
besides...I just love those lights!  Don't you wish you got to wear those
really neat bright orange suits?:-)  The lights turned my green shorts
into a very cool grayish color.  You get a nice breeze through your hair
on the ride and the banked turns are really cool IMHO.  
        Even though the theming isn't the best it did accomplish
something with me.  I liked the atmosphere for some reason.
        BTW, my favorite coaster is the Magnum and I think that the Blue
Streaks' third best in the park.  I love that coaster!  I don't like the
Mean Streak now but I think that it's because I've had two bad
experiences with it and eventually I will get a fun ride on it.  Perhaps
Coastermania...

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Post by Bobby De » Mon, 28 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I liked Disaster Transport too...if you take it for what it is.  It's not
meant to be intense or terrifying.  I thought that gliding sensation you
get on the bobsled rides went well with the space theme too.

However, my friend who waited in the 25 minute line with me thought it
was a complete waste of time.

Robert
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