A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by john cline i » Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00



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Quote:
> I was reading the paper this morning and noticed an article about a
>memorial service for a local woman. Her name was Lisa White and had been
>missing from her apartment Sept. 1 and found dead Sept. 5th. A suspect
>is in custody and has been implicated in her death.
>  With the world as it is today, missing people and ***s have sadly
>become commonplace. I had heard about her disappearance on TV and
>remember thinking that she looked like a nice lady and I hoped she was
>ok. For me that is quite a reaction. I saw her picture in the paper and
>on the news for a few days, one had her standing in water with a dolphin
>next to her, she looked really happy. Over the next few days they have
>found her body and soon a suspect.
>  I was sad because for some reason I had actually been looking at her
>as a real person not just a news story. Today's story about the memorial
>service read as many do with family and friends gathering at an ocean
>front park to remember her life. In the story a lady from nearby
>Sebastian said, "She was a real person, any time you were around her she
>was happy." I was not surprised, I had seen that just from the pictures.
>That could have been what made her more than a face on TV to me.
>  Then I read this remembrance from a friend and co-worker, "Her dream
>was to win the lottery and buy a motor home, then go to the theme parks
>and close the park for the day so her friends could ride the roller
>coasters all day. She used to talk about it all the time." I was really
>stunned by this, like many of us I share this dream.
>  Lisa White could have been a friend to any one of us, including me.
>She shared with us a love of the good things that roller coasters and
>parks bring into life. She had many other interests including skydiving
>but I find it comforting that she found enjoyment in coasters and wanted
>to share that with friends. I understand and share those feelings and
>that makes her that much more *real* to me.
>  I find myself saddened in a way that makes me wonder about myself and
>I ask myself many questions. Why did I notice her and not the
>unfortunate others whose photos I see in the media daily? Are those
>people any less real than Lisa White? Is the fact that she liked
>coasters why I feel sadness or is it the person she was? How can one day
>I find humor in a mans death at PGA but shed tears the next for the
>death of another person I did not know?
>  I feel I will be looking at these questions for quite a while and hope
>I find out more about myself along the way. As for Lisa White I offer a
>prayer for her friends and family, and also prayer for her (and us) that
>there are roller coasters in heaven.

>Thanks for sharing this with me,
>Todd Long

Amongst the senseless argument about which of two DC area theme parks is better,
I find this.

user wipes away tears and thinks a long, long while....

john cline ii who is eerily moved by this post, and will never be quite the same
because of it.....

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Dave Sandbo » Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00

In article


Quote:
> [...]
>   I find myself saddened in a way that makes me wonder about myself and
> I ask myself many questions. Why did I notice her and not the
> unfortunate others whose photos I see in the media daily? Are those
> people any less real than Lisa White? Is the fact that she liked
> coasters why I feel sadness or is it the person she was? How can one day
> I find humor in a mans death at PGA but shed tears the next for the
> death of another person I did not know?

Thanks for your thoughtful post, Todd.  Hopefully it'll help us put things
in perspective.  As for these questions, you may never know the answers,
but cliche as it sounds, *asking* them is often the more important thing...

--
Dave Sandborg
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A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Todd Lo » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00

 I was reading the paper this morning and noticed an article about a
memorial service for a local woman. Her name was Lisa White and had been
missing from her apartment Sept. 1 and found dead Sept. 5th. A suspect
is in custody and has been implicated in her death.
  With the world as it is today, missing people and ***s have sadly
become commonplace. I had heard about her disappearance on TV and
remember thinking that she looked like a nice lady and I hoped she was
ok. For me that is quite a reaction. I saw her picture in the paper and
on the news for a few days, one had her standing in water with a dolphin
next to her, she looked really happy. Over the next few days they have
found her body and soon a suspect.
  I was sad because for some reason I had actually been looking at her
as a real person not just a news story. Today's story about the memorial
service read as many do with family and friends gathering at an ocean
front park to remember her life. In the story a lady from nearby
Sebastian said, "She was a real person, any time you were around her she
was happy." I was not surprised, I had seen that just from the pictures.
That could have been what made her more than a face on TV to me.
  Then I read this remembrance from a friend and co-worker, "Her dream
was to win the lottery and buy a motor home, then go to the theme parks
and close the park for the day so her friends could ride the roller
coasters all day. She used to talk about it all the time." I was really
stunned by this, like many of us I share this dream.
  Lisa White could have been a friend to any one of us, including me.
She shared with us a love of the good things that roller coasters and
parks bring into life. She had many other interests including skydiving
but I find it comforting that she found enjoyment in coasters and wanted
to share that with friends. I understand and share those feelings and
that makes her that much more *real* to me.
  I find myself saddened in a way that makes me wonder about myself and
I ask myself many questions. Why did I notice her and not the
unfortunate others whose photos I see in the media daily? Are those
people any less real than Lisa White? Is the fact that she liked
coasters why I feel sadness or is it the person she was? How can one day
I find humor in a mans death at PGA but shed tears the next for the
death of another person I did not know?
  I feel I will be looking at these questions for quite a while and hope
I find out more about myself along the way. As for Lisa White I offer a
prayer for her friends and family, and also prayer for her (and us) that
there are roller coasters in heaven.

Thanks for sharing this with me,
Todd Long

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Brian Ondr » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Maybe it was meant to tell you and the rest of us something, Todd.
Maybe its to show all of us that behind the words and pictures we see
everyday are real people with real lives.  Each has their hopes,
dreams, stories, experiences, and more.  How many of those people out
there have more in common with us than we can imagine?  And the worst
part is how often do we ever stop and think about it?

How often do we realize that behind these words we read each day on
rec.roller-coaster are real people.  Its easy to forget.  What if Lisa
White was one of us, someone that reads this newsgroup daily, posts
occasionally, and maybe even someone we've seen at an event or two?
Would we feel it?  What if that was the same person we were putting
down a week ago for bad grammar or an unpopular opinion?

I guess my point to all of this is to add to what Todd has started by
his poetic post.  There are real people behind the stories we see on
the news, read about in the paper, and who's posts we read on a daily
basis.  Sometimes its a good idea just to stop yourself from your
daily schedule to realize that.

Thank you Todd.

-Brian Ondrey

***********************************************************
My opinions do not reflect those of my employer.  They do
however, give wonderful insight into how screwed up I truly
am.
***********************************************************

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Runaway » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> I find myself saddened in a way that makes me wonder about myself and
>I ask myself many questions. Why did I notice her and not the
>unfortunate others whose photos I see in the media daily? Are those
>people any less real than Lisa White? Is the fact that she liked
>coasters why I feel sadness or is it the person she was? How can one day
>I find humor in a mans death at PGA but shed tears the next for the
>death of another person I did not know?

It's not such a terrible thing to laugh at death.  Sometimes laughing is the
only means to get you through those awkward moments where you don't feel like
dealing with the harder parts of life.  I'm sure that's part of why we like
roller-coasters so much.   Sometimes they're just fun, but other times they're
a means of helping you through difficult times.   There's no sense in
questioning the methods you choose - sometimes the goal is to just get through
it.  You're a good person, Todd.

Mark-
who always thinks the goal is to just get laid

           Today for you, tomorrow for me

                                             RunawayMT

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Kip Ro » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Very nice, thoughtful post, Todd.  Thinking about death is such a
painful subject, but it's nice to remember that death is merely a
peaceful journey following a life of draining emotional lessons.
Death is often looked upon as the end, but honestly, it's just the
beginning.  Thinking with this perspective often helps me cope.

While on the subject, I'd like to pay my respects to a certain
respected member of my community, who passed on last week...

A teacher, Craig O'Connell, who I was scheduled to have next semester,
committed suicide last week.  While we were in school, at 10am, he was
standing on the edge of a bridge not far from us.  Unfortunately, he
felt that plummeting 100 feet was the answer to his problems.  If he
only knew what he meant to *so* many kids, I doubt he would have done
what he did.  The following Monday, the entire school was a mess.
Virtually everyone was crying, including the varsity football team.
Most agreed that Mr. O'Connell was an inspiration.  He touched so many
lives, then to go and take his own is such a tragedy.  He had five
biological kids, plus almost 2000 more at school.  He taught U.S.
History, and coached numerous school sports, including basketball,
tennis, volleyball, and more.  What he did was so selfish, yet I
wouldn't dare condemn him for his actions.  Obviously, whatever he was
dealing with was too much to handle.  I only hope he's found peace
now.  

R.I.P, Craig O'Connell.

Thanks for listening.

-Kip-

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Sean Flahar » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00

  I feel what you are saying Todd. Two weeks ago, I lost a friend in a
freak accident.  I was supposed to do KW and PKI a few days later but
almost had to cancel my trip because I did not feel I was up to it.
After the funeral, I started looking through old footage I shot while at
CP. Some of the footage was of me and my friend (who was not a coaster
enthusiast) that just died, riding Magnum.  This made me  really think
about things.  I (and everyone else I know that does alot of traveling )
have been very lucky that nothing tragic has happend on those trips.  I
even told Mark McKinze that I was thinking about taking a break from
coastering for a while.  I have said that in the past to others but my
view towards going to these parks and having a blast changed rather
quickly. I was thinking that there was not a whole lot of time in life
and here I am spending ALOT of it riding coasters.  Well, I made myself
go to KW and PKI.  I then realized that I can't sit and do something
that I am not happy doing.   If I ride coasters alot, and it makes me
happy, why should I quit doing it?  I should spend even more time doing
what I love to do!  Life is short.  Why stop with one ride when there
are more waiting for you? Make sense?  I hope so.  Thanks for posting
that topic Todd.

                                    Sean ( who REALLY wants to be on a
coaster NOW but can't because........well the parks around here are
closed until Saturday) Flaharty

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A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Wes Lagattol » Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>  I feel I will be looking at these questions for quite a while and hope
>I find out more about myself along the way. As for Lisa White I offer a
>prayer for her friends and family, and also prayer for her (and us) that
>there are roller coasters in heaven.

I never talk about this much, mainly because it's touchy. I'm doing it
now.
My dad died in 1992, when I was 12. He had colon cancer, and in 3
weeks from learning, he died.
He took me on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride when I was 4. It petrified me. I
loved it.
That same year, he took me on my first coaster, Big Thunder Mountain.
I only remember flying up in the air over a hop with my hands up, him
next to me. A good memory.
He got me on Splash Mountain, the ride I wanted to go on, even though
I wasn't tall enough. We rode together on my first ride. I loved it,
and it became our ride.
He told me about the old wooden coasters at the pier, the urban
legends werethe section over the water collapsed with riders on it. I
was enthralled.        
We'd go to Magic Mountain a lot. We rode my favorite Ninja many times,
as well as Colossus. We'd hoot and hollar and laugh. He rode Psyclone,
while I sat watching.
I remember he wanted me to ride Viper, but I didn't. I was too scared,
so he didn't ride either. I don't think he ever did get to ride Viper,
it didn't seem to bother him.
I rode Viper in 1995, getting over my fear of it after he had passed
away 3 years prior. Since then, I've loved coasters. All types and
sizes.

Call me crazy, but I think someone else is behind this habit!

Wes Lagattolla
http://members.xoom.com/WesCST/index.html
CULT of STEEL FORCE!
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Ghost Rider-The Scares Begin In 2 Months.

 
 
 

A friend we never met, but knew. Rest in peace Lisa White.

Post by Success » Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Todd

Your post was very nice.  Caring and sensitive.  I commend you for posting it.

It seems to me that more and more people are in tune with the notion of the
world as community for all of us.  I think it is good.

Many blessings.

Jim W