Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by John21 » Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:00:00


I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
the fumes of cureing fiberglass.  
 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Clyde Gundru » Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:00:00

There is a website that sells them for $189.00

 http://SportToday.org/

If this is too much for you, maybe it will give you some ideas.

Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.


 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Dave » Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I have not tried this, but have given it some thought..... ought to work.....
Take that big piece of PVC you were talking about and cut out a couple of triangles
at one end so that it will "fold up" into the cone shape of your choice (you might
have to heat it a bit with a torch). Then using regular pvc glue, glue it up.
Perhaps wrap some duct tape around it to hold it while it dries. Then on the aft
end glue on a standard end cap. If your glued up cone has some leaks in it, you
might try mixing up some PVC shavings with the glue until it makes a goo that you
can spread over the holes.  If that does not work, hack off that end and put a cap
on it as well.  Then get you some stainless steel plumbers tape or a few really
long tie wraps to secure it to your outrigger poles.
    Now of course if it is not 100% water tight, it will fill up and sink. So you
might want to consider putting some foam in there. Could use the pour in kind, but
the foam packing peanuts would work too......
Like I told my wife that first night, "I said it would do the job, I never told you
it was pretty!"
p.s. Let me know if it works.
Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.


 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Gizm » Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does
anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe,
but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not
agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.  

Try the following URL for the PVC rowing shell

http://SportToday.org/~kolsen/#pl

I've got it bookmarked to order his plans but never did and my own efforts
at cutting and shaping the tubes were somewhat less than spectacular.

Terry Gerweck

 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by John Milt » Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Why not a little of both.... use the pvc, then carve a pointy end out of
some foam, glue it to the bow end cap and then glass over it. (the
glassing can wait till the weather is warm enough to do outside) Make the
stern end cap a cleanout so any leak can be drained.

: I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
: it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
: one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
: stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
: have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
: don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
: sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
: sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
: if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
: the fumes of cureing fiberglass.  

 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Bob Cavenag » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

At the risk of seeming a real luddite compared to the foam/epoxy solutions:

Find a woods where you can scavenge downed wood.  Find a downed evergreen of some
flavor (spruce, pine, etc.) with a warped trunk 8-12 feet long.  Find a couple of
downed saplings with some warp to them.  Peel off the bark. Lash the whole thing
to your canoe with the curved side of the outrigger downwards, penetrating the
water.  You only need one.

Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.

Bob Cavenagh
 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by GSmith75 » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

don't worry about streamlining the outrigger-a piece of 4 or 6" PVC pipe with a
cap will work fine.  Also, you may want to mount it above the water on both
sides of the boat, Like training wheels.  Then it can serve as secondary
bouyancy if the canoe starts to tip a bit.
 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Lincoln Ros » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Most of the responses seem kinda expensive or heavy. If nothing else, I'd check out
the water toys at some big store. If nothing else, you could get one of those soft
foam tubes for several $, shape the ends with a sharp (and I mean sharp) knife, and
lash it to a stick. But I'd be surprised if they didn't have something a little
more streamlined.

If you want less fumes, just use epoxy (but you should still ventilate a little).
Epoxy can also be used over styrene foam without dissolving it, and it doesn't have
a whole lot of smell. One cheap source is www.raka.com (I think I got url right)

You could make a half size version of the little canoe (peero pirogue?) design
shown on Craig O'Donnel's Cheap Pages. follow the link found at the bottom of:
www.apci.net/~michalak (or for that matter, Michalak has a float design).

Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern fiberglass canoe to make
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That said, does anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large PVC pipe, but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is not agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.

 
 
 

Want to build canoe "outrigger"

Post by Nicholas Care » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> I want to build a "outrigger" for my 17' square stern

fiberglass canoe to make

Quote:
> it a little more stable for "bay" work.  I want to be able to
take it out into
> one of NJ bays to do some clamming this summer, but want the
canoe to be more
> stable than when I am just cruising on a river or lake.  That
said, does anyone
> have any idea what I should build the outrigger out of.  (cost
is a factor, I
> don't have a lot to spend)  Thought of the blue foam insulation
stuff, but not
> sure it would hold up very well.  Also thought of using large
PVC pipe, but not
> sure how to make the ends streamlined. Would like to stay away
from Fiberglass
> if I can, as I would be doing it in my ba***t and my wife is
not agreeable to
> the fumes of cureing fiberglass.

[and many other people have replied with many other ideas, some
useful and some
not]

Take a look at Chesapeak Light Craft's Canoe/Kayak sailing rig
(plans $US 40):

  http://SportToday.org/

It's probably just the ticket for what you need.

N.
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