Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by -Mr. Ed » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:53:54


I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never seen
before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of the
boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving only
the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
-Mr. Ed-

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by Glenn Ashmor » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 02:28:15

That is a sail drive. Volvo, Yanmar and several others make them. It has a
number of advantages and a few disadvantages.  A SD is quieter than a shaft
drive.  Less drag.   Cost less as a package installed, does not have as much
turning torque in reverse.  The bad part is you have to haul every six
months to change the  shaft zinc.

You would come out a lot cheaper just replacing the unit with another
saildrive.  Closing up the hole and iInstalling a standard shaft at this
point will take longer and cost more.

Quote:

> I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
> the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never seen
> before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
> inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of the
> boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
> year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving only
> the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
> just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
> outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

> Thanks in advance for your advice.
> -Mr. Ed-

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by -Mr. Ed » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 05:06:15

Thanks for your advice.  I didn't plan on replacing this sail drive with
an inboard.  What I thought I might do is just glass over the hole and
hang an outboard on the back of the boat.  I looked at the price of a
replacement drive and at $5600 it was prohibitive to replace it with a
new unit, especially in this older boat.

-Ed-

Quote:

> That is a sail drive. Volvo, Yanmar and several others make them. It has a
> number of advantages and a few disadvantages.  A SD is quieter than a shaft
> drive.  Less drag.   Cost less as a package installed, does not have as much
> turning torque in reverse.  The bad part is you have to haul every six
> months to change the  shaft zinc.

> You would come out a lot cheaper just replacing the unit with another
> saildrive.  Closing up the hole and iInstalling a standard shaft at this
> point will take longer and cost more.


> > I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
> > the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never seen
> > before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
> > inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of the
> > boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
> > year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving only
> > the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
> > just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
> > outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

> > Thanks in advance for your advice.
> > -Mr. Ed-

> --
> Glenn Ashmore

> I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
> there of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com


 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by -Mr. Ed » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 05:08:20

Thanks for your advice.  I didn't plan on replacing this sail drive with
an inboard.  What I thought I might do is just glass over the hole and
hang an outboard on the back of the boat.  I looked at the price of a
replacement drive and at $5600 it was prohibitive to replace the old
unit with a new one, especially in this older boat.

-Ed-

Quote:

> That is a sail drive. Volvo, Yanmar and several others make them. It has a
> number of advantages and a few disadvantages.  A SD is quieter than a shaft
> drive.  Less drag.   Cost less as a package installed, does not have as much
> turning torque in reverse.  The bad part is you have to haul every six
> months to change the  shaft zinc.

> You would come out a lot cheaper just replacing the unit with another
> saildrive.  Closing up the hole and iInstalling a standard shaft at this
> point will take longer and cost more.


> > I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
> > the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never seen
> > before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
> > inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of the
> > boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
> > year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving only
> > the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
> > just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
> > outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

> > Thanks in advance for your advice.
> > -Mr. Ed-

> --
> Glenn Ashmore

> I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
> there of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by -Mr. Ed » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 05:04:33

Thanks for your advice.  I didn't plan on replacing this sail drive with
an inboard.  What I thought I might do is just glass over the hole and
hang an outboard on the back of the boat.  I looked at the price of a
replacement drive and at $5600 it was prohibitive to replace it with a
new unit, especially in this older boat.

-Ed-

Quote:

> That is a sail drive. Volvo, Yanmar and several others make them. It has a
> number of advantages and a few disadvantages.  A SD is quieter than a shaft
> drive.  Less drag.   Cost less as a package installed, does not have as much
> turning torque in reverse.  The bad part is you have to haul every six
> months to change the  shaft zinc.

> You would come out a lot cheaper just replacing the unit with another
> saildrive.  Closing up the hole and iInstalling a standard shaft at this
> point will take longer and cost more.


> > I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
> > the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never seen
> > before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
> > inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of the
> > boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
> > year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving only
> > the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
> > just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
> > outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

> > Thanks in advance for your advice.
> > -Mr. Ed-

> --
> Glenn Ashmore

> I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
> there of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by Dave » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 06:03:21

Ahhhh yes, saildrives are expensive.  If $5600 is too much for a new engine
for the boat, maybe you really aught to ponder if you are prepared for owing
and maintaining such a boat.  In the overall scheme of things, initial cost
of the boat is a small part of the actual cost!  OK, I know you don't
believe me; lets check back in a few years.

Quote:
> Thanks for your advice.  I didn't plan on replacing this sail drive with
> an inboard.  What I thought I might do is just glass over the hole and
> hang an outboard on the back of the boat.  I looked at the price of a
> replacement drive and at $5600 it was prohibitive to replace the old
> unit with a new one, especially in this older boat.

> -Ed-


> > That is a sail drive. Volvo, Yanmar and several others make them. It has
a
> > number of advantages and a few disadvantages.  A SD is quieter than a
shaft
> > drive.  Less drag.   Cost less as a package installed, does not have as
much
> > turning torque in reverse.  The bad part is you have to haul every six
> > months to change the  shaft zinc.

> > You would come out a lot cheaper just replacing the unit with another
> > saildrive.  Closing up the hole and iInstalling a standard shaft at this
> > point will take longer and cost more.


> > > I'm looking at purchasing an older Erickson sailboat.  . I really like
> > > the features and cabin layout... BUT, it has a problem I have never
seen
> > > before on a sailboat.  The original configuration was with an
> > > inboard/outboard engine.  The outdrive mounts through the bottom of
the
> > > boat.  (What idiot came up with this idea).  Needless to say, the 22
> > > year old outdrive is worthless.  The motor has been removed leaving
only
> > > the outdrive mounted through a 12" diameter, sealed hole in the hull
> > > just behind the keel.  My question is what would it take to remove the
> > > outdrive and glass over the hole in the hull?

> > > Thanks in advance for your advice.
> > > -Mr. Ed-

> > --
> > Glenn Ashmore

> > I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
> > there of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by Bill Krueskam » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:34:40

Ok, this maybe a dumb suggestion, but what about converting the "hole" into
an outboard well? Many a boat have had their outboard conveniently hidden
under a hatch a stern in an outboard well. Mostly power skiffs like "Handy
Billy" ("Building the Handy Billy" (last three Wooden boat Issues)). I could
swear I have seen this done at least once on a sailer...

????

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by Stephen Kin » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:17:09

The Cal 25 used an outboard well in the lazerette IIRC.

Steve King

Quote:

> Ok, this maybe a dumb suggestion, but what about converting the "hole" into
> an outboard well? Many a boat have had their outboard conveniently hidden
> under a hatch a stern in an outboard well. Mostly power skiffs like "Handy
> Billy" ("Building the Handy Billy" (last three Wooden boat Issues)). I could
> swear I have seen this done at least once on a sailer...

> ????

 
 
 

Glassing over a 12"x14" Hole in the Hull?

Post by Glenn Ashmor » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:26:26

To deep.  The hole is probably 12" to 16" below the water line and the prop
shaft needs to be another 12" or so below that.  You would have to have an
outboard that was 36" or more from the prop to the power head.

Quote:

> Ok, this maybe a dumb suggestion, but what about converting the "hole" into
> an outboard well? Many a boat have had their outboard conveniently hidden
> under a hatch a stern in an outboard well. Mostly power skiffs like "Handy
> Billy" ("Building the Handy Billy" (last three Wooden boat Issues)). I could
> swear I have seen this done at least once on a sailer...

> ????

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there
of) at:  http://www.rutuonline.com