Power Boat Long Distance Cruising

Power Boat Long Distance Cruising

Post by Oliver & Paul Flemin » Wed, 20 Mar 1996 04:00:00


-- I am interested in power boat long distance cruising (2000 miles or more)
is there a site on the net that might cater to us stinkpotters who would
like to do some real ocean cruising in comfort.
        Cheers
                Oliver Fleming
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Power Boat Long Distance Cruising

Post by Michael S. You » Wed, 20 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> I'm building such a site even as we speak. It will be called Trawler World
> and should be up and running in late April or so.

> I'll post announcements here and everywhere when the time comes.

Great, looking to a good site to discuss power cruising. My wife and I are
planning to do something that might seem like the antithesis of a trawler,
namely a power cat.

My parents have lived aboard a heavy trawler/tug style boat they built
themselves. For 11 years they have been afloat along the east coast
following the sun. It's about 25 tons (short tons fortunately).

After considering the issues of draft, speed, carrying capacity, and
especially motion we have decided that lighter and wider is the way to go.
I'd be interested in a debate over the accepted wisdom of the factors that
make a good long-range cruiser.

Best of luck with your site,
Mike
--
                     Michael S. Young
The RREEF Funds, 650 California Street, San Francisco, CA 94108

          "Chaos is normal; normality is exceptional."

 
 
 

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Post by Georgs Kolesnikov » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I'm building such a site even as we speak. It will be called Trawler World
and should be up and running in late April or so.

I'll post announcements here and everywhere when the time comes.

Quote:
> -- I am interested in power boat long distance cruising (2000 miles or more)
> is there a site on the net that might cater to us stinkpotters who would
> like to do some real ocean cruising in comfort.
>    Cheers
>            Oliver Fleming
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> : "We'll go out through the Kitchen" - Tanis  |  -= UDIC =-               :
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Cape Horn Marine, builders of Cape Horn Trawlers and founding sponsors
of West Marine Trawler Fest in Puget Sound and the Chesapeake


 
 
 

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Post by Stephen Jone » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> -- I am interested in power boat long distance cruising (2000 miles or more)
> is there a site on the net that might cater to us stinkpotters who would
> like to do some real ocean cruising in comfort.
>         Cheers
>                 Oliver Fleming
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> : "We'll go out through the Kitchen" - Tanis  |  -= UDIC =-               :
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a page for ocean-going trawler yachts.  But I don't know the
address.  Sorry--I only keep track of sailing sites.

--

Stephen Jones
Department of Philosophy
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
T6G 2E5
(403) 435-7103
(403) 492-9160 (fax)

http://www.ualberta.ca/~sjones/

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Kam » Fri, 22 Mar 1996 04:00:00

It's always seemed strange to me that the "trawler yacht" has become the
standard configuration for long-distance powerboat cruising. Trawlers are
designed to carry large quantities of (very heavy) iced fish, and pull
large nets at low speed with high thrust. Aside from the excessive
load-carrying capacity, the type seems to have little to recommend it for
passage-making.

My preference would be for a "destroyer yacht," long and very slender,
very easily driven at displacement speeds with very little power. With
some roll-stabilizaiton the motions at sea would be far more comfortable
than a trawler.
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http://www.well.com/user/pk/fishmeal.html

                                                   -"Call me Fishmeal"-

 
 
 

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Post by Georgs Kolesnikov » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I believe there is growing interest in powered multihulls for cruising,
exactly for the reasons you cite.

just had one of their new designs, the 35 Power Cat, built by
Shaw Boats in Aberdeen, Washington, which I hope to see when I'm next
out there. You might email Gino Morrelli for info.
A friend of mine, Steve Shidler, is planning a circumnavigation in
a 60-foot power trimaran, aiming to get around in fewer than 80 days.
I don't have anyone signed up yet, but there might be a power cat or
tri at the Puget Sound rendezvous I'm helping to organize.
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Cape Horn Marine, builders of Cape Horn Trawlers and founding sponsors
of West Marine Trawler Fest in Puget Sound and the Chesapeake

 
 
 

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Post by Georgs Kolesnikov » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I agree with your long and slender approach to ocean-crossers.

George Buehler and I are working on a 102-footer that will have
a beam of only 18 feet. It will be so easily driven at 10 to 12
knots that you might be able to cruise at least halfway around
the globe without refuelling.

But in smaller configurations, the trawler approach works well in
providing safety and comfort at sea. If the designer has done his
job well, they can be quite fuel efficient because none of the
boats built for the recreational market have the need or capacity
to haul tons of frozen fish around.
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Cape Horn Marine, builders of Cape Horn Trawlers and founding sponsors
of West Marine Trawler Fest in Puget Sound and the Chesapeake

 
 
 

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Post by Editorp » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

To add to the discussion, and hopefully offer something more useful than
mere opinion, PassageMaker Magazine is planning a design article on boat
designs and long range ocean motorboat alternatives. Hull shapes
included...

I am continuously amazed how diverse the power cruising community is
regarding what is a trawler, and what represents a good long range
motorboat. From the Nordhavn 46 that went around the world in our last
issue, to the long, skinny aluminum trawler report we are currently
working on, these boats are very different, yet are generally used in the
same way.

Even the loyal following of each brand of production boat can't agree on
what is the perfect long range motorboat. But it is fascinating to embrace
the subject, and have each person make up his/her mind as to the right
boat.

Bill Parlatore
Editor

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Kam » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Tell us more about the "long, skinny aluminum trawler."  Is it really
correct to call it a "trawler?"
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Post by Editorp » Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I assume you were asking ME that question.

What I am referring to is a one-off aluminum boat that is full
displacement, single engine, and gets great economy (along the lines of 1
gallon per hour). Rather than take a limit seining hull and make it a
yacht, the guy who built this boat went the other direction, getting
accomodations from longer length, in an easily-driven hull.

Another fellow who likes to design this kind of boat is George Buehler.
His boats are generally long and lean, which equates to economy and
reasonable interior space.

I think the term "trawler" isn't always used correctly these days.
However, many of the older fishing boat (especially ones that sailed) were
a whole lot leaner than the fishing law-mandated length limitations that
evolved the shorter/wider hull shapes of today.

It seems pointless to redefine trawler, since it is so universally applied
to everything from semi-displacement "fast" trawlers to converted shrimp
boats. Which is why our subtitle refers to trawlers and ocean
motorboats...the cruising long distance motorboat of the future will be
even less like the fishing fleet. And I can't wait!

Bill Parlatore

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Kam » Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:00:00


   >I believe there is growing interest in powered multihulls for cruising,
   >exactly for the reasons you cite.

Yes, powered multihulls can be great boats - except that they tend to be
very expensive.

The most efficient powered multi would be a proa configuration. That way
you get the longest possible main hull for the money, and don't have to
duplicate machinery and other sytems as in the catamaran. Cost of amas and
akas is cut in half compared to the tri. So you get the advantage of the
long slender "destroyer yacht" fast displacement hull, pluss the roll
stability and huge deck/cabin area of the multi, while only incurring a
fraction of the multihull cost premium.

But - could you live with an asymmetrical boat? I'm not sure if I could!

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Post by Georgs Kolesnikov » Sat, 30 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Hmmm . . . proa, eh?

I'll have to run that idea past Gino Morrelli when I next get a chance.

Sounds intriguiging but, yes, lopsided.
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Cape Horn Marine, builders of Cape Horn Trawlers and founding sponsors
of West Marine Trawler Fest in Puget Sound and the Chesapeake