## Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

I'm interested in the Walker 8 dinghy but I'm puzzled by the way
capacity is calculated. Supposedly, it can carry over 400 lbs. but the
capacity drops to 235 lbs. when using a 2 hp motor.

Since the 2 hp motor weighs only 17 lbs., where is the lost capacity
going to?

At any rate, all I want to do with it is use it as a fishing platform
500 yards from shore with my wife and I on it. Collectively, we weigh a
grand total of 350 lbs.

The way the rating reads, we'd be okay if we just row it but will sink
if we add a puny 2 hp motor.

I'm not interested in breaking speed records or making the thing plane.

Any comments will be appreciated. TIA.

FTT

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### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

> I'm interested in the Walker 8 dinghy but I'm puzzled by the way
> capacity is calculated. Supposedly, it can carry over 400 lbs. but the
> capacity drops to 235 lbs. when using a 2 hp motor.

> Since the 2 hp motor weighs only 17 lbs., where is the lost capacity
> going to?

> At any rate, all I want to do with it is use it as a fishing platform
> 500 yards from shore with my wife and I on it. Collectively, we weigh a
> grand total of 350 lbs.

500 yards off what kind of shore? A small lake's shore? The Atlantic Ocean's
shore? Will you be subject to large wakes from passing boats?

Have you taken a look at the two little Dyer dinghies? They are just a little
larger, but might have more freeboard and capacity, be less tippy and less
likely to be swamped. They also were designed by Philip Rhodes, and are classic
looking.

500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile off shore. Enough distance to drown
if you get tipped or swamped.

--
Harry Krause
------------

I smell a rat. Did you bake it or fry it?

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

> 500 yards off what kind of shore? A small lake's shore? The Atlantic
Ocean's
> shore? Will you be subject to large wakes from passing boats?

> Have you taken a look at the two little Dyer dinghies? They are just
a little
> larger, but might have more freeboard and capacity, be less tippy and
less
> likely to be swamped. They also were designed by Philip Rhodes, and
are classic
> looking.

> 500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile off shore. Enough distance
to drown
> if you get tipped or swamped.

> --
> Harry Krause
> ------------

> I smell a rat. Did you bake it or fry it?

500 yards from the Potomac River shore in VA. I'm not familiar with the
Dyer dinghies - do they have a website, and can you provide me w/ their

I'm actually wavering between this Walker Bay model and the Portabote,
and throwing the Dyers into the mix, which one would you go for?

Thanks.

FTT, first time boat owner, hates trailering

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### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

> > I'm interested in the Walker 8 dinghy but I'm puzzled by the way
> > capacity is calculated. Supposedly, it can carry over 400 lbs. but the
> > capacity drops to 235 lbs. when using a 2 hp motor.

> > Since the 2 hp motor weighs only 17 lbs., where is the lost capacity
> > going to?

> > At any rate, all I want to do with it is use it as a fishing platform
> > 500 yards from shore with my wife and I on it. Collectively, we weigh a
> > grand total of 350 lbs.

> 500 yards off what kind of shore? A small lake's shore? The Atlantic Ocean's
> shore? Will you be subject to large wakes from passing boats?

> Have you taken a look at the two little Dyer dinghies? They are just a little
> larger, but might have more freeboard and capacity, be less tippy and less
> likely to be swamped. They also were designed by Philip Rhodes, and are classic
> looking.

Apples and oranges, Harry.
I hadn't heard of the Dyer, but after looking at the website, they seem very
similar to the Davidsons we have around here. Beautiful boats, but:
- twice the weight,
- four times the cost, and
- infinity-times the maintenance
of a Walker Bay.

If you want a quality, seaworthy, good-looking dinghy, and you're willing to
pay for it, get a Davidson (or a Dyer). If you want an inexpensive little boat
to play in, get a Walker Bay. (BTW, the Walker Bays ARE "full-flotation")

And wear a life-jacket (in either case!)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Near Cove II" Walker Bay 8
--
"watching broadcast nus /i see th salmon talks will / resume on monday /
well thank god at leest th / salmon ar talking" - Bill Bissett

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

> > > I'm interested in the Walker 8 dinghy but I'm puzzled by the way
> > > capacity is calculated. Supposedly, it can carry over 400 lbs. but the
> > > capacity drops to 235 lbs. when using a 2 hp motor.

> > > Since the 2 hp motor weighs only 17 lbs., where is the lost capacity
> > > going to?

> > > At any rate, all I want to do with it is use it as a fishing platform
> > > 500 yards from shore with my wife and I on it. Collectively, we weigh a
> > > grand total of 350 lbs.

> > 500 yards off what kind of shore? A small lake's shore? The Atlantic Ocean's
> > shore? Will you be subject to large wakes from passing boats?

> > Have you taken a look at the two little Dyer dinghies? They are just a little
> > larger, but might have more freeboard and capacity, be less tippy and less
> > likely to be swamped. They also were designed by Philip Rhodes, and are classic
> > looking.

>    Apples and oranges, Harry.
>    I hadn't heard of the Dyer, but after looking at the website, they seem very
> similar to the Davidsons we have around here. Beautiful boats, but:
>    - twice the weight,
>    - four times the cost, and
>    - infinity-times the maintenance
>    of a Walker Bay.

>    If you want a quality, seaworthy, good-looking dinghy, and you're willing to
> pay for it, get a Davidson (or a Dyer). If you want an inexpensive little boat
> to play in, get a Walker Bay. (BTW, the Walker Bays ARE "full-flotation")

>    And wear a life-jacket (in either case!)

Perhaps just a different perspective. I know how tippy dinghies are, and from my
experience, the Dyer is the least tippy of that size and style. I saw a Walker
Bay at a nearby boat supply store. The Dyers are minimalist enough for me, in
terms of safety. If the fellow who originally posted really wants to fish 500
yards out in the Potomac in a tiny boat, he probably should go for an Avon or
something similar.

--
Harry Krause
------------

Common redneck household phrase: "Somebody jiggle that."

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

>> I'm interested in the Walker 8 dinghy but I'm puzzled by the way
>> capacity is calculated. Supposedly, it can carry over 400 lbs. but the
>> capacity drops to 235 lbs. when using a 2 hp motor.

>> Since the 2 hp motor weighs only 17 lbs., where is the lost capacity
>> going to?

>> At any rate, all I want to do with it is use it as a fishing platform
>> 500 yards from shore with my wife and I on it. Collectively, we weigh a
>> grand total of 350 lbs.

>> The way the rating reads, we'd be okay if we just row it but will sink
>> if we add a puny 2 hp motor.

>> I'm not interested in breaking speed records or making the thing plane.

>> Any comments will be appreciated. TIA.

We've got one for a dinghy and for sailing fun.

Check out: http://www.walkerbay.com

From their specifications page:

Length 8'3" (2.51m)
Width 52" (1.32m)
Weight Approx. 71lbs (32.5kg)
Capacity 2 persons
Max Load in US CE (425 lbs)
(235 lbs with 2 hp motor)

So, the 235 lbs with 2 hp motor is a Canadian thing.

We've got a 20-lb thrust 2-speed trolling motor that does a great job.
I tried a borrowed 28-lb thrust 5-speed. "Wide open" it almost planed
with just me aboard! Everyone to his or her own thing, but a small
trolling motor and battery are a lot cheaper and cleaner than an
outboard.

Stability. Well, it's a small boat. It seems to be as tender as any
boat of this size. No more, no less. Compared to an inflatable, of
course it's very tender; compared to a 12-foot Joe-boat (Jon-boat
everywhere but S. LA), it's a little more stable.

Rick

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

I ended up with the Walker Bay as a dingy for my boat.  I'm moored 20 feet
off shore.  Its not pretty, but its cheap, light and rugged.  West Marine
has a deal for the boat with sails.

Jerry

Quote:

> > 500 yards off what kind of shore? A small lake's shore? The Atlantic
> Ocean's
> > shore? Will you be subject to large wakes from passing boats?

> > Have you taken a look at the two little Dyer dinghies? They are just
> a little
> > larger, but might have more freeboard and capacity, be less tippy and
> less
> > likely to be swamped. They also were designed by Philip Rhodes, and
> are classic
> > looking.

> > 500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile off shore. Enough distance
> to drown
> > if you get tipped or swamped.

> > --
> > Harry Krause
> > ------------

> > I smell a rat. Did you bake it or fry it?

> 500 yards from the Potomac River shore in VA. I'm not familiar with the
> Dyer dinghies - do they have a website, and can you provide me w/ their

> I'm actually wavering between this Walker Bay model and the Portabote,
> and throwing the Dyers into the mix, which one would you go for?

> Thanks.

> FTT, first time boat owner, hates trailering

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Did you get the sail kit? Have you tried sailing it? Based on where
the daggerboard is, I'd question whether or not it would sail worth a
damn. Does it?

Lloyd Sumpter
"Near Cove II" Walker Bay 8

Quote:

> I ended up with the Walker Bay as a dingy for my boat.  I'm moored 20 feet
> off shore.  Its not pretty, but its cheap, light and rugged.  West Marine
> has a deal for the boat with sails.

> Jerry

--
It's better to be at the dock, wishing you were at sea,
than at sea, wishing you were at the dock.

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

>   Did you get the sail kit? Have you tried sailing it? Based on where
>the daggerboard is, I'd question whether or not it would sail worth a
>damn. Does it?

>Lloyd Sumpter
>"Near Cove II" Walker Bay 8

>> I ended up with the Walker Bay as a dingy for my boat.  I'm moored 20 feet
>> off shore.  Its not pretty, but its cheap, light and rugged.  West Marine
>> has a deal for the boat with sails.

We've got the sail kit. It does pretty well under sail as long as one
keeps in mind it's a sailing _DINGHY_, not a high performance
sailboat. Seems to balance out pretty well.

My only gripe is the sail has a sleeve that fits over the mast, so no
way to lower it. I've added a halyard and the hardware. Haven't had a
chance, but the plan is to put some grommets in and do some hoop
lashing or try to find something to use as hoops.

Also, as I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, it does very
well with a 20-lb thrust trolling motor.

Rick

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

> >   Did you get the sail kit? Have you tried sailing it? Based on where
> >the daggerboard is, I'd question whether or not it would sail worth a
> >damn. Does it?

> >Lloyd Sumpter
> >"Near Cove II" Walker Bay 8

> >> I ended up with the Walker Bay as a dingy for my boat.  I'm moored 20 feet
> >> off shore.  Its not pretty, but its cheap, light and rugged.  West Marine
> >> has a deal for the boat with sails.

> We've got the sail kit. It does pretty well under sail as long as one
> keeps in mind it's a sailing _DINGHY_, not a high performance
> sailboat. Seems to balance out pretty well.

> My only gripe is the sail has a sleeve that fits over the mast, so no
> way to lower it. I've added a halyard and the hardware. Haven't had a
> chance, but the plan is to put some grommets in and do some hoop
> lashing or try to find something to use as hoops.

> Also, as I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, it does very
> well with a 20-lb thrust trolling motor.

> Rick

Thanks for the 'fo, bro'!

I wasn't going to get the sail kit, but now I think I might ( have to
sell Near Cove I first, though).
In Near Cove I, if I wanted to "drop the sail" I wrapped it around
the mast, then lashed the boom up to it as well. Looked a bit silly, bit
worked great.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Near Cove I" Lil' Admiral 9
--
It's better to be at the dock, wishing you were at sea,
than at sea, wishing you were at the dock.

### Walker Bay 8 Capacity Question

Quote:

>   Thanks for the 'fo, bro'!

>   I wasn't going to get the sail kit, but now I think I might ( have to
>sell Near Cove I first, though).
>   In Near Cove I, if I wanted to "drop the sail" I wrapped it around
>the mast, then lashed the boom up to it as well. Looked a bit silly, bit
>worked great.

>Lloyd Sumpter
>"Near Cove I" Lil' Admiral 9

Been there, done that. :-) It's a pain, though and takes a while. It
also can get really interesting in a chop!

I'm going to give it a try just hoisting the sail loose first. Once I
put the grommets in, it'll "ruin" the sail as far as slipping it over
the mast goes.

Rick