building small boats

building small boats

Post by Heather Callagh » Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:02:13


What's the best way of going about building a small boat?
 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Founta » Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:51:49

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> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

It is not clear what you are asking. Do you want recommendations
for a design? Are you looking at different construction techniques?
Are you looking for a boat building course?

What are your current skills? What do you want to do with the
boat? How small is small? How about you give us a bit of a
story.

Bruce Fountain

 
 
 

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Post by William R. Wa » Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:12:32

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> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

first you find some water. then you sit quite still and contemplate the
water for a long, long time through the cycles of the seasons, through the
moods of the wind and waves. eventually when your inner soul in is
communcation with the essence of the water you go into the forest and
wander for many seasons communicating with the trees and listening to
their secrets whispered in the gentle breezes. after years of watching and
listening to nature you go to Home Depot and buy three sheets of
underlayment plywood, a roll of single strand wire, a pint of polyester
resin, two square feet of woven fibreglass cloth, a quart of semi-gloss
exterior***paint, and build the boat.

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Post by Ron Mage » Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:32:51

Heather,
FIRST . . . go to your local library and READ every book on boats &
boatbuilding you can. Look at the 'card catalog' . . . most today are
electronic . . . and set the screen to show 'SYSTEM AVAILABILITY'. This will
let you see where books are - other than the building you are now in - and
you can get them through an inter-library loan.

IF this is your first effort, pay particular attention to the 'works' of
Phil Bolger and Harold "Dynamite" Payson {a PERSONAL opinion}.

AFTER you have reviewed all that information you will have some idea of;
a} What is involved
b} What YOU like
c} What more specific questions to ask

ABOVE ALL . . . DON'T GIVE UP THE 'DREAM' . . . BUILD that first boat, what
ever she turns out to be.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
[Of course you could just 'dive in' . . . that's how a lot of boats are
started]


Quote:
> > What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

> It is not clear what you are asking. Do you want recommendations
> for a design? Are you looking at different construction techniques?
> Are you looking for a boat building course?

> What are your current skills? What do you want to do with the
> boat? How small is small? How about you give us a bit of a
> story.

> Bruce Fountain

 
 
 

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Post by Rationa » Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:54:57


Quote:


>> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

>first you find some water. then you sit quite still and contemplate the
>water for a long, long time through the cycles of the seasons, through the
>moods of the wind and waves. eventually when your inner soul in is
>communcation with the essence of the water you go into the forest and
>wander for many seasons communicating with the trees and listening to
>their secrets whispered in the gentle breezes. after years of watching and
>listening to nature you go to Home Depot and buy three sheets of
>underlayment plywood, a roll of single strand wire, a pint of polyester
>resin, two square feet of woven fibreglass cloth, a quart of semi-gloss
>exterior***paint, and build the boat.

Yer-
I was on a ferry once, with about 300 people cars etc-it was no toy,
but there is was, sitting on top of the waves, its props out of the
water screaming, then it would lean forward a little, then go
screaming down this wave, till it hit the trough and get buried, then
pop up and start again, it was incredable. Dishes were being mashed,
chairs and table were flying off to the end their chains, they even
closed the bar. Legions of them being sick into bags. And to get from
point a to b was agility and timing, if you got it wrong you ended up
running into something.
But the most fun was in the toilets, there they were 2-3 to a bowl,
being sick in the sinks, the urinals, it was all over the floor, some
hadnt got their timming right and slipped in it, some had it all over
themselves - it was a fantasic sight.
So now when I walk down a marina, I look with fondness on the most
***ugly, windowless, steel pit bull looking thing,-  thinking yer
thats the bastard for that kind of fun, non of this other rubblish
will last 5 minutes.
 
 
 

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Post by steve » Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:42:53

There is not one best way. Building a boat is a craft and an art.
Your question is like asking "what is the best way to paint a picture".
However,
If you use skill gained through experience and materials that are of the
highest quality you can find and afford, and knowledge gained through
studying what others have done, your boat might just float.
I'd turn the question around to you and ask...what do YOU think is the
best way to build a small boat?
SteveJ
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> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

 
 
 

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Post by Rodney Myrvaagne » Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:32:25

On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:54:57 +1300, Rational

Quote:




>>> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

>>first you find some water. then you sit quite still and contemplate the
>>water for a long, long time through the cycles of the seasons, through the
>>moods of the wind and waves. eventually when your inner soul in is
>>communcation with the essence of the water you go into the forest and
>>wander for many seasons communicating with the trees and listening to
>>their secrets whispered in the gentle breezes. after years of watching and
>>listening to nature you go to Home Depot and buy three sheets of
>>underlayment plywood, a roll of single strand wire, a pint of polyester
>>resin, two square feet of woven fibreglass cloth, a quart of semi-gloss
>>exterior***paint, and build the boat.

>Yer-
>I was on a ferry once, with about 300 people cars etc-it was no toy,
>but there is was, sitting on top of the waves, its props out of the
>water screaming, then it would lean forward a little, then go
>screaming down this wave, till it hit the trough and get buried, then
>pop up and start again, it was incredable. Dishes were being mashed,
>chairs and table were flying off to the end their chains, they even
>closed the bar. Legions of them being sick into bags. And to get from
>point a to b was agility and timing, if you got it wrong you ended up
>running into something.
>But the most fun was in the toilets, there they were 2-3 to a bowl,
>being sick in the sinks, the urinals, it was all over the floor, some
>hadnt got their timming right and slipped in it, some had it all over
>themselves - it was a fantasic sight.
>So now when I walk down a marina, I look with fondness on the most
>***ugly, windowless, steel pit bull looking thing,-  thinking yer
>thats the bastard for that kind of fun, non of this other rubblish
>will last 5 minutes.

So ugly is better???

Rodney Myrvaagnes  NYC                J36 Gjo/a

"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

 
 
 

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Post by Backyard Renega » Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:18:26

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> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

Ok, no sarcasm available today... But if you really want to build a
small boat, go to "Dynamite Payson's website, InstantBoats.com, and
order the book "Build the New Instant Boats". It is about 20 bucks and
along with plans for 6 small boats, it is a start to finish manual on
ways, means, techniques, materials, and a little common sense
necessary for one to build a small boat.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com
 
 
 

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Post by William R. Wa » Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:37:12

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> So ugly is better???

***ugly

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Post by Ron Mage » Sun, 09 Mar 2003 07:28:55

Why does this WHOLE THING feel like someone is 'fishing with hand grenades
???
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
[as he fits a "MA-Duce" to the mini-PT boat]

Scotty writes . . . .

Bill writes


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> On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:54:57 +1300, Rational




> >>> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

 
 
 

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Post by Rationa » Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:11:10

On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:32:25 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes

Quote:

>On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:54:57 +1300, Rational




>>>> What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

>>>first you find some water. then you sit quite still and contemplate the
>>>water for a long, long time through the cycles of the seasons, through the
>>>moods of the wind and waves. eventually when your inner soul in is
>>>communcation with the essence of the water you go into the forest and
>>>wander for many seasons communicating with the trees and listening to
>>>their secrets whispered in the gentle breezes. after years of watching and
>>>listening to nature you go to Home Depot and buy three sheets of
>>>underlayment plywood, a roll of single strand wire, a pint of polyester
>>>resin, two square feet of woven fibreglass cloth, a quart of semi-gloss
>>>exterior***paint, and build the boat.

>>Yer-
>>I was on a ferry once, with about 300 people cars etc-it was no toy,
>>but there is was, sitting on top of the waves, its props out of the
>>water screaming, then it would lean forward a little, then go
>>screaming down this wave, till it hit the trough and get buried, then
>>pop up and start again, it was incredable. Dishes were being mashed,
>>chairs and table were flying off to the end their chains, they even
>>closed the bar. Legions of them being sick into bags. And to get from
>>point a to b was agility and timing, if you got it wrong you ended up
>>running into something.
>>But the most fun was in the toilets, there they were 2-3 to a bowl,
>>being sick in the sinks, the urinals, it was all over the floor, some
>>hadnt got their timming right and slipped in it, some had it all over
>>themselves - it was a fantasic sight.
>>So now when I walk down a marina, I look with fondness on the most
>>***ugly, windowless, steel pit bull looking thing,-  thinking yer
>>thats the bastard for that kind of fun, non of this other rubblish
>>will last 5 minutes.

>So ugly is better???

>Rodney Myrvaagnes  NYC                J36 Gjo/a

>"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

Well your not likely to go pig hunting with a poodle, and you could
considered strange if you give the dog a ribbon, or even bath in some
environments, you can even get punched out in some bars for calling
some dogs anything but ugly-as ugly is what they are proud off,- as in
practical, useful, -but its not your usual refined suburbia where
people of artistic taste and refinement buy their pork plastic wrapped
from the supermarket.- and talk on an on about how to grill and season
it, and presentation, lacking a life of reality, while these boys talk
for hours and hours about the brawling, wrestling, mud, ***,
squealing, their dogs getting honorable mention.- So I guess its what
you call fun, in different playgrounds.
But, I suppose something that looks like, 4-44gallon drums welded
together.-is not going to impress on artistic merits.- but again its
really about  different playgrounds.

The more interesting pigs often leave behind it a few scars, not to
mention the more interesting dog seems to accumulate then anywhere
they can, this is the dog to be really proud off, and gives you the
best stories.. So ugly can be entertaining. while arguing the artistic
boring.-  but its really about what games you can get up too, in your
backyard.-or the backyard you choose to play in.

So - its really defines what your backyard is and mine, as to what
ugly is and does.

 
 
 

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Post by P.C. » Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:17:33

Hi



Quote:
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:32:25 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes

> So - its really defines what your backyard is and mine, as to what
> ugly is and does.

You are quite right, but nomatter you want to build somthing with charecter or
somthing you realy would fancy but can't get unless you build it yourself, then
the ***y method is what keep most people get just that.
It is _not_ easy to build a fancy ship but even a simple hull is difficult if
you think you need to use the methods from _before_ computers changed all that.
That's why I ask you to open your mind about full-scale plans and check this
building method , that take away all the difficult parts and non-boatbuilder
methods that sneaked into it ; -------- a boatbuilder do not fight the materials
and never use nails in end-wood ( acturly a carpenter don't either ) , but if
you never acturly build the boats you plan, you will never know.
Anyway open your mind for a method that build any boat shape safer, easyer and
in sheet materials ( no timbers ) ;

http://SportToday.org/***-Boat/

This is a very easy method, where you cut the intire framework from sheets and
assemble them. Then you place the full-scale panels inside and out the boat
hull, and fill out the space between with flotation foam or emty bottles.
P.C.

 
 
 

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Post by Thomas Bloome » Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:37:06

I can't think of a better answer than this:
http://www.woodenboat.com/fbb.htm

--
Tom Bloomer
Hartly, DE


What's the best way of going about building a small boat?

 
 
 

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Post by P.C. » Tue, 11 Mar 2003 04:42:27

Hi



Quote:
> Hi



> > On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:32:25 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes

> > So - its really defines what your backyard is and mine, as to what
> > ugly is and does.

Design don't matter ; boats only get better, ant the best designs was ever made,
when new methods or materials came into it.
Then you Romans claim that it now is even cheaper ; well wasn't that the
challance ; somthing better, and cheaper ?

P.C.
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=3D-Honeycomb&ss=1