Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Tim Johns » Sat, 30 Nov 2002 17:19:57


If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
example can be found in the CC24 at
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

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Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Jeff Morri » Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:08:59

Cruising cats don't scale downward very well - below 35 feet style and safety
start getting squeezed.  To maintain bridge deck clearance and a covered central
cabin gets difficult without going vertical.  The Maine Cat 30 (and a few
others) solve this with an open bridge which is not optimal for liveaboard.  I
think Prout made a 28, but you won't find many around your area.  And beware of
the older, homemade cats - many are not that well made.

I'm not claiming is impossible to find one that suits your needs; I'm really
explaining why very few are built.  Your best bet might be an older Gemini or
EndeavorCat - somewhat larger than what you're looking for, but it would be the
lap of luxury by comparison.

--
-jeff     www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup
at the deli."


Quote:
> If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
> live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
> as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
> toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
> with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
> believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
> contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> example can be found in the CC24 at
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

> "What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward


 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Tim Johns » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 02:08:48

Thanks Jeff! Fisher makes a 28' Fishercat, with inside steering. That is
a likely scenario for me; although I've read one account saying the
motion aboard Fishercats is not real comfortable. I thought that was an
odd comment for a cat.........Anyway, thanks, I greatly appreciate the
reply, Tim

"What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Jim Donohu » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:55:06

Me too...never bought a cat but looked hard a couple of times.  The Lady
vetoed anything below 40 on the basis of being unlivable.  If you want a
salon you can live with I think you will end up in the mid 3l0s or more.

Jim


Quote:
> If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
> live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
> as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
> toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
> with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
> believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
> contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> example can be found in the CC24 at
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

> "What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Jeff Morri » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:28:45

Cats under 40 feet have a saloon too small?  So what size monohull is adequate
for your needs?

Our PDQ 36 has a smaller saloon than some midsize cats (which gives it a very
sleek profile) but we still sat eight for Thanksgiving two years ago.

There have been moments when I was envious of the PDQ 42 and the Manta 42, but
when the beam goes over 20 finding slips and hoists gets even more complicated.

--
-jeff     www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup
at the deli."


Quote:
> Me too...never bought a cat but looked hard a couple of times.  The Lady
> vetoed anything below 40 on the basis of being unlivable.  If you want a
> salon you can live with I think you will end up in the mid 3l0s or more.

> Jim



> > If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
> > live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
> > as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
> > toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
> > with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
> > believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
> > contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> > the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> > Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> > example can be found in the CC24 at
> > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> > design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> > a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> > those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> > the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

> > "What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Russ Barro » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 10:32:09

The 27' Heavenly Twins come to mind.
Quote:

> If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
> live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
> as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
> toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
> with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
> believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
> contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> example can be found in the CC24 at
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

> "What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by sailo » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:19:36

1. there is no "rain shadow" - it's a real estate myth. slightly less rain
hits the ground in Squim, etc than Mt Vernon - but that's only because the
50 mph winds keep it horizontal and off the ground till Mt Vernon, Everett,
etc.
2. all cats cost mucho $$$. if you're poor in retirement, consider an old
salmon boat. you won't get to choose a cat.
3. there's a nice large (80+ ft) old tug for free at the old dock in
Anacortes.
Quote:

> If I'm just, financially squeezing by, in my retirement, I may opt to
> live aboard. I've read accounts of those switching from monos to multis,
> as being very happy about the switch. I've also seen, as people get
> toward retirement age, they don't want a large boat to contend
> with......I currently live aboard a Nimble Nomad (mono hull), and
> believe her 25' to be not too big for retirement ease of
> contention.......Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> example can be found in the CC24 at
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

> "What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Tim Johns » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 17:35:54

Dear Sailor, LOL (Really) I mean uhhh, yer barnacles are a showin. So,
you say you've got an 80' tug you can't, or don't want to pay the
moorage on.....Just kidding, but the best laugh I've had all
day....Thanks for the curmudgeon reply, TJ  PS: I love Anacortes

"What you do in life, echoes in eternity." .....Pay it forward

 
 
 

Liveaboard Retirement Catamaran

Post by Jere Lul » Sun, 01 Dec 2002 20:06:54

Quote:

>3. there's a nice large (80+ ft) old tug for free at the old dock in
>Anacortes.

When we were getting Xan surveyed, the surveyor tested me with a free
boat (we only had to haul it away)... Beautiful, classic lines and about
the size we were looking for, but was all wood and some of it didn't
look real great. I passed the test when I said, "I don't think it's
worth the price."

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://members.dca.net/jerelull/BVI.html

 
 
 

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Post by Skip Gundlac » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 11:43:30


Quote:
>Having said all that, I've been thinking about a cat in
> the 25' range, for retirement, and coastal cruising. I live in the
> Pacific Northwest  (PNW), USA. Two problems:1 Finding cats that size. An
> example can be found in the CC24 at
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/index.html And 2. finding a
> design with the largest salon  possible, for the size of boat. It rains
> a bit here, so you end up spending alot of time in the salon.........For
> those of you familiar with the PNW, in retirement, I'll try to move into
> the rain shadow......Thanks for listening, Tim

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boats-or *with* boats.
In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter.  Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.
Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."