To Glass or not to Glass... my wooden Penn Yann

To Glass or not to Glass... my wooden Penn Yann

Post by Keith Par » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:35:20


Hello everyone,

Before I start buying up supplies Im opening the floor to comments on
weather I should reglass my Swift or put canvas on it again.  My father put
in 1000 wood screws and Glassed it 20 years ago and the glass has come loose
on the bottom.. although this could be attributed to a very slow fuel leak
that has since been fixed.  The Gentleman at Epifanes made what I thought
was a good point though... that the glass cannot expand and shrink as the
wood does when it gets wet/cold/hot and it therefore breaks the bond with
time.
    My concern is as much preserving this boat as being able to use it and
enjoy its performance.

Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

--

Keith

Keith Park

Top Notch Restorations

71 Squareback
65 Notchback
65 Squareback
75 Opel
87 Golf
88 Rx7 10th Anniversary

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:09:39

    Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
& in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
it fails.

    The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
H. Vaitses
lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
fiberglass ;-))

    Be very wary of those that publish howtos which just happen to come with &
advise their particular systems which are mostly for epoxy, but always grossly
overpriced & over spruiked.

Regards,

K

Quote:
> Hello everyone,

> Before I start buying up supplies Im opening the floor to comments on
> weather I should reglass my Swift or put canvas on it again.  My father put
> in 1000 wood screws and Glassed it 20 years ago and the glass has come loose
> on the bottom.. although this could be attributed to a very slow fuel leak
> that has since been fixed.  The Gentleman at Epifanes made what I thought
> was a good point though... that the glass cannot expand and shrink as the
> wood does when it gets wet/cold/hot and it therefore breaks the bond with
> time.
>     My concern is as much preserving this boat as being able to use it and
> enjoy its performance.

> Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

> --

> Keith

> Keith Park

> Top Notch Restorations

> 71 Squareback
> 65 Notchback
> 65 Squareback
> 75 Opel
> 87 Golf
> 88 Rx7 10th Anniversary


 
 
 

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Post by Harry Kraus » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:27

Quote:


>     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
> mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
> epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
> & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
> it fails.

>     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
> H. Vaitses
> lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> fiberglass ;-))

Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

--
Harry Krause
- -
MAD Magazine named Konservative Rev. Jerry Falwell the "dumbest person
of 2001" for blaming the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on gays and
***s, feminists and other groups. "We thought Falwell had reached
his personal pinnacle of dumbness a few years ago when he accused the
Teletubbies of promoting ***ity," said MAD editor John
Ficarra. "Give the guy credit, we underestimated him."

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:24:15

Quote:



> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
> > it fails.

> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
> > H. Vaitses
> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> > fiberglass ;-))

> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

    Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
any manner so answer as best I can.

    Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

    I've seen & been involved in many including numerous using Mr. Vaitses's
methods. Why don't you get the book Harry & have a read you might even learn
something (well OK; that's probably a tad optimistic). My comments about glass not
sticking to timber are consistent with his comments. You would love the
introduction, it even mentions the covering coming off........ wait Harry ..........
wait.............  one of your hallowed Rybovich sport fisherman. He feels that job
was well done, the best epoxy etc but alas after only 12 years it came off.

    Here ya go may I quote him???;

"It was a good job of its type to have lasted so long, but one day half of the
bottom covering on one side fell off. Obviously, the epoxy had had a good grip on
the planking, since almost every square inch of the fiberglass took some of the
mahogany with it. A grainy, chunky veneer came away, leaving the boat's bottom
striated & pitted, as though she had been dragged over a bed of spikes a hundred
yards long. That the epoxy never did let go of the wood indicates an excellent bond:
it is important to an understanding of fiberglass covering to note that it was not
the glue but the wood that came apart."

end quote from his book. (gees Louise I had to look "striated" up; d'oh me ;-))

    This bloke has had to endure prejudice that might even beat you & your OMC
dealer mates in this NG, but he's persevered & now has a well respected fibreglass
over timber system that actually works in the longer term.

    Unlike some marketing scams he just gives out the info, doesn't start marketing
his special secret formula resins & staples, I say a real good bloke.

    Very, very much abridged, paraphrased etc Harry it goes a bit like this; if the
timber is soft naturally & absorbent or alternatively so far gone, that resin can
actually soak into the material then it will fail by delaminating the timber
(clearly if it's that porous it's got no shear strength) OR if the timber is
stronger, new or in good condition then it's own construction, oils etc will
resist/prevent the resins actually getting into the material so it'll fail at or
very close to the surface junction (as soon as the resin has cured that's it, never
goes any further & as the un-***d timber below changes/moves so the joint
fails; maybe the Rybovich??).

    Whereas his methods allow any adhesion that is there to still be used yes, but
equally with the mechanical fastenings backing it up. We have used stainless staples
in the past with great success & if a similar job comes along, will again.

Thanks for your non abusive genuine interest & enjoy the book it's really good, lots
of pics for people like you!!

K

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> --
> Harry Krause
> - -
> MAD Magazine named Konservative Rev. Jerry Falwell the "dumbest person
> of 2001" for blaming the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on gays and
> ***s, feminists and other groups. "We thought Falwell had reached
> his personal pinnacle of dumbness a few years ago when he accused the
> Teletubbies of promoting ***ity," said MAD editor John
> Ficarra. "Give the guy credit, we underestimated him."

 
 
 

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Post by Harry Kraus » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:47:24

Quote:




>> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
>> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
>> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
>> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
>> > it fails.

>> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
>> > H. Vaitses
>> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
>> > fiberglass ;-))

>> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
>> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

>     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
> any manner so answer as best I can.

>     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

Somehow I knew that.

--
Harry Krause
- -
The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor. - Tom
Donahue

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:49:59

Quote:





> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
> >> > it fails.

> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
> >> > H. Vaitses
> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> >> > fiberglass ;-))

> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
> > any manner so answer as best I can.

> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

> Somehow I knew that.

        & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats hows it feel?? a new
experience for ya hey;-) ??

Best Regards,

K

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> --
> Harry Krause
> - -
> The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor. - Tom
> Donahue

 
 
 

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Post by Harry Kraus » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:00:41

Quote:






>> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
>> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
>> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
>> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
>> >> > it fails.

>> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
>> >> > H. Vaitses
>> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
>> >> > fiberglass ;-))

>> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
>> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

>> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
>> > any manner so answer as best I can.

>> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

>> Somehow I knew that.

>         & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats hows it feel?? a new
> experience for ya hey;-) ??

> Best Regards,

> K

My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.

--
Harry Krause
- -
What more sacred property rights are there than the right of a man to
his job? - Upton Sinclair

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:18:29

Quote:







> >> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
> >> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
> >> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
> >> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
> >> >> > it fails.

> >> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
> >> >> > H. Vaitses
> >> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> >> >> > fiberglass ;-))

> >> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
> >> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

> >> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
> >> > any manner so answer as best I can.

> >> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

> >> Somehow I knew that.

> >         & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats hows it feel?? a new
> > experience for ya hey;-) ??

> > Best Regards,

> > K

> My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
> boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.

    Wow the servers are fast today almost real time nastiness from you Harry, but that's OK
you're almost pleasant these days, honest ;-).

    I guess you can say whatever you like Harry all you've got to do is actually show where
the posts are wrong, I don't mind indeed I learn heaps here from the different
answers/solutions open review to the same problems.

    It's a great place I like it, so long as you & a few other bullies don't try to stifle
open discussion.

    Like most you can get comfy in your own little advice world with little or no outside
different & importantly critical input, this is where the OMC dealers live or lived, they
thought an unquestioning world was safe, a bent marketing scam maintaining the retail
prices etc but alas open widely discussed forums like this NG prevented them keeping a lid
on the Ficht disaster; alas they should have listened.

    I find posting here for open review is an instant check system on what I believe, am
told, advised or understand. I must say I'm proud of the old blokes it seems most if not
exactly all the stuff out of here is correct, rarely getting bowled, notwithstanding lots
of gratuitous abuse from vested dealer interests from time to time.

    Although for a while there I was a bit scary bananas about Ficht, the blokes never
waivered though; lean at power means detonation!!, good on 'em, but then chrsitmas came
&............ well I won't dwell.

All the best,

K

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> --
> Harry Krause
> - -
> What more sacred property rights are there than the right of a man to
> his job? - Upton Sinclair

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:22:35

Quote:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:09:39 +1100, "K. Smith"

> # lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells
> fibreglass,
> # fiberglass ;-))

> Hmmmmmm... obviously well bred and literate!!!  ;-)

    Obviously !! He's the  one with the best system so far as far as we can see.

K

Quote:

> --
> 23' Grady White, out of Oak Island, NC.
> To Mail - Remove the Bee Bees from my address.
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Posted Via Binaries.net = SPEED+RETENTION+COMPLETION = http://www.binaries.net

 
 
 

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Post by Harry Kraus » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:30:31

Quote:








>> >> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
>> >> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
>> >> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
>> >> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
>> >> >> > it fails.

>> >> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
>> >> >> > H. Vaitses
>> >> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
>> >> >> > fiberglass ;-))

>> >> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
>> >> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

>> >> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
>> >> > any manner so answer as best I can.

>> >> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

>> >> Somehow I knew that.

>> >         & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats hows it feel?? a new
>> > experience for ya hey;-) ??

>> > Best Regards,

>> > K

>> My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
>> boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.

>     Wow the servers are fast today almost real time nastiness from you Harry, but that's OK
> you're almost pleasant these days, honest ;-).

Tell me about your boating c.v., K. Nothing personal, of course...just
your boating c.v.

--
Harry Krause
- -
15 year-old Welsh singing sensation C***te Church recently met George
W. Bush but says she prefers Clinton. ?[Bush] said, ?So what state is
Wales in?? I said, ?Erm, it?s a separate country next to England, and he
went, ?Oh, OK.? I didn?t know what to say."

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:30:11

Quote:









> >> >> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it needs to be
> >> >> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber, old or new. The
> >> >> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you "their" resin sticks
> >> >> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as you've just found out,
> >> >> >> > it fails.

> >> >> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with Fiberglass" by Allan
> >> >> >> > H. Vaitses
> >> >> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> >> >> >> > fiberglass ;-))

> >> >> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
> >> >> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were used...

> >> >> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking I'll not take offense in
> >> >> > any manner so answer as best I can.

> >> >> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.

> >> >> Somehow I knew that.

> >> >         & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats hows it feel?? a new
> >> > experience for ya hey;-) ??

> >> > Best Regards,

> >> > K

> >> My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
> >> boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.

> >     Wow the servers are fast today almost real time nastiness from you Harry, but that's OK
> > you're almost pleasant these days, honest ;-).

> Tell me about your boating c.v., K. Nothing personal, of course...just
> your boating c.v.

    Well I sit quietly & pretty much confine myself to getting the lunch & keeping the toilet
clean as you'd expect me to, I'm sure.

    Occasionally I get all adventurous & ask a technical question then whatever the answer, I
just accept it & say; "yes; sir"

    Not much else really.

K

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> --
> Harry Krause
> - -
> 15 year-old Welsh singing sensation C***te Church recently met George
> W. Bush but says she prefers Clinton. ?[Bush] said, ?So what state is
> Wales in?? I said, ?Erm, it?s a separate country next to England, and he
> went, ?Oh, OK.? I didn?t know what to say."

 
 
 

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Post by Harry Kraus » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:59:42

Quote:

> K.,

>    Frankly, it appears that there are a few posters on rec.boats
> that have assumed multiple identities.  They are fairly obvious since
> they don't post using "real"addresses.  They to tend to be highly
> inflammatory and lack any real substance to their posting.  Last, but
> not least, they are diametrically opposed to Harry's political
> leanings (ick).  


Beau.

--
Harry Krause
- -
You should never have an idealogy more specific than that of the
Founding Fathers; "For the general welfare." - Saul Alinsky

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:57:49

Quote:

> K.,

>         Frankly, it appears that there are a few posters on rec.boats
> that have assumed multiple identities.  They are fairly obvious since
> they don't post using "real"addresses.  They to tend to be highly
> inflammatory and lack any real substance to their posting.  Last, but
> not least, they are diametrically opposed to Harry's political
> leanings (ick).  Don't lump Harry in with that group and, Harry, be
> cool...... don't post like they do.  I thought Skipper was an ***,
> but these guys take the cake......

>         Play pretty........

    But he has lately haven't you noticed ??? Initially I though he was just too
busy but now I honestly think Mrs K is putting something in his milk.

    He's always used a real address that I've known of, even when some loon used
it to track Mrs K down & make crazy phone threats. Having a real address is good,
you get some spam which is easily filtered, but you also get some nice mail or
even genuine spirited contrary discussions from people who don't won't to become
part of a flame war.

    I know this is telling tales out of school, but we even have a vested
interest Ficht supporter here who privately emails people telling them my views
on Ficht are wrong & that Ficht is the best thing since sliced bread, all the
problems are now fixed (yet again I guess they mean???) & they should never
hesitate to buy buy buy!!! He can't or won't defend them publicly of course but
is happy to say some choice things privately (is that slander or defamation
Harry??, maybe I should check with Larry??) Clearly at least one recipient was
shocked, amused, incredulous enough to advise me.

    I really don't care a zot but I do think if the OMC crowd have a Ficht case
they at least should have the wherewithal to put it for open review. For me it
just confirms how terrified they are of this & similar public forums, where they
can no longer control the spin.

Regards,

K

Quote:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:18:29 +1100, "K. Smith"


> #


> # > >


> # > >> >


> # > >> >> >
> # > >> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it
> needs to be
> # > >> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to timber,
> old or new. The
> # > >> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell you
> "their" resin sticks
> # > >> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as
> you've just found out,
> # > >> >> > it fails.
> # > >> >> >
> # > >> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats with
> Fiberglass" by Allan
> # > >> >> > H. Vaitses
> # > >> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying. (Notwithstanding
> he spells fibreglass,
> # > >> >> > fiberglass ;-))
> # > >> >> >
> # > >> >>
> # > >> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats you've
> # > >> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were
> used...
> # > >> >>
> # > >> >
> # > >> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking
> I'll not take offense in
> # > >> > any manner so answer as best I can.
> # > >> >
> # > >> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.
> # > >>
> # > >> Somehow I knew that.
> # > >>
> # > >
> # > >         & here I am thinking you don't know anything; congrats
> hows it feel?? a new
> # > > experience for ya hey;-) ??
> # > >
> # > > Best Regards,
> # > >
> # > > K
> # > >
> # >
> # > My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
> # > boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.
> # >
> #
> #     Wow the servers are fast today almost real time nastiness from
> you Harry, but that's OK
> # you're almost pleasant these days, honest ;-).
> #
> #     I guess you can say whatever you like Harry all you've got to do
> is actually show where
> # the posts are wrong, I don't mind indeed I learn heaps here from the
> different
> # answers/solutions open review to the same problems.
> #
> #     It's a great place I like it, so long as you & a few other
> bullies don't try to stifle
> # open discussion.
> #
> #     Like most you can get comfy in your own little advice world with
> little or no outside
> # different & importantly critical input, this is where the OMC
> dealers live or lived, they
> # thought an unquestioning world was safe, a bent marketing scam
> maintaining the retail
> # prices etc but alas open widely discussed forums like this NG
> prevented them keeping a lid
> # on the Ficht disaster; alas they should have listened.
> #
> #     I find posting here for open review is an instant check system
> on what I believe, am
> # told, advised or understand. I must say I'm proud of the old blokes
> it seems most if not
> # exactly all the stuff out of here is correct, rarely getting bowled,
> notwithstanding lots
> # of gratuitous abuse from vested dealer interests from time to time.
> #
> #     Although for a while there I was a bit scary bananas about
> Ficht, the blokes never
> # waivered though; lean at power means detonation!!, good on 'em, but
> then chrsitmas came
> # &............ well I won't dwell.
> #
> # All the best,
> #
> # K
> #
> # >
> # > --
> # > Harry Krause
> # > - -
> # > What more sacred property rights are there than the right of a man
> to
> # > his job? - Upton Sinclair

> --
> 23' Grady White, out of Oak Island, NC.
> To Mail - Remove the Bee Bees from my address.
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Posted Via Binaries.net = SPEED+RETENTION+COMPLETION = http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

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Post by K. Smit » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:01:45

Quote:

> Oh..........   well, that's llovelly........

> You need to get your clock fixed.....  It is Monday, 18 Mar 2002
> 22:46:11  Yawn.....   Nitety-night.............

Hmmm not really it's Tuesday the 19th in the mid afternoon, sleep tight, nighty
night.

K

Quote:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:30:11 +1100, "K. Smith"


> #


> # > >


> # > >> >


> # > >> >> >


> # > >> >> >> >
> # > >> >> >> >     Glass with polyester resin is the way to go, but it
> needs to be
> # > >> >> >> > mechanically attached, don't rely upon adhesion to
> timber, old or new. The
> # > >> >> >> > epoxy resin promoters (little pun there???) will tell
> you "their" resin sticks
> # > >> >> >> > & in the short term it probably might, but over time as
> you've just found out,
> # > >> >> >> > it fails.
> # > >> >> >> >
> # > >> >> >> >     The best book I've seen is "Covering Wooden Boats
> with Fiberglass" by Allan
> # > >> >> >> > H. Vaitses
> # > >> >> >> > lots of good stuff & well worth buying.
> (Notwithstanding he spells fibreglass,
> # > >> >> >> > fiberglass ;-))
> # > >> >> >> >
> # > >> >> >>
> # > >> >> >> Describe in detail the number and kinds of wood boats
> you've
> # > >> >> >> fiberglassed and the conditions under which they were
> used...
> # > >> >> >>
> # > >> >> >
> # > >> >> >     Assuming this is the new caring, sharing, Harry asking
> I'll not take offense in
> # > >> >> > any manner so answer as best I can.
> # > >> >> >
> # > >> >> >     Me personally with my own delicate hands???? None.
> # > >> >>
> # > >> >> Somehow I knew that.
> # > >> >>
> # > >> >
> # > >> >         & here I am thinking you don't know anything;
> congrats hows it feel?? a new
> # > >> > experience for ya hey;-) ??
> # > >> >
> # > >> > Best Regards,
> # > >> >
> # > >> > K
> # > >> >
> # > >>
> # > >> My suspicion, based upon your postings, is that your practical
> # > >> boating/engine experience hovers gently between zero and none.
> # > >>
> # > >
> # > >     Wow the servers are fast today almost real time nastiness
> from you Harry, but that's OK
> # > > you're almost pleasant these days, honest ;-).
> # >
> # > Tell me about your boating c.v., K. Nothing personal, of
> course...just
> # > your boating c.v.
> # >
> #
> #     Well I sit quietly & pretty much confine myself to getting the
> lunch & keeping the toilet
> # clean as you'd expect me to, I'm sure.
> #
> #     Occasionally I get all adventurous & ask a technical question
> then whatever the answer, I
> # just accept it & say; "yes; sir"
> #
> #     Not much else really.
> #
> # K
> #
> #
> #
> # >
> # > --
> # > Harry Krause
> # > - -
> # > 15 year-old Welsh singing sensation C***te Church recently met
> George
> # > W. Bush but says she prefers Clinton. ?[Bush] said, ?So what state
> is
> # > Wales in?? I said, ?Erm, it?s a separate country next to England,
> and he
> # > went, ?Oh, OK.? I didn?t know what to say."

> --
> 23' Grady White, out of Oak Island, NC.
> To Mail - Remove the Bee Bees from my address.
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To Glass or not to Glass... my wooden Penn Yann

Post by David Pendleto » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:15:31

What about multiple identities?


Quote:

> > K.,

> > Frankly, it appears that there are a few posters on rec.boats
> > that have assumed multiple identities.  They are fairly obvious since
> > they don't post using "real"addresses.  They to tend to be highly
> > inflammatory and lack any real substance to their posting.  Last, but
> > not least, they are diametrically opposed to Harry's political
> > leanings (ick).


> Beau.

> --
> Harry Krause
> - -
> You should never have an idealogy more specific than that of the
> Founding Fathers; "For the general welfare." - Saul Alinsky