How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Scot » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:26:00


My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
fishing boats crazy ?!?!
 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Jere Lul » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:50:17

Quote:

>My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
>Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
>a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
>time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
>primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
>is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
>fishing boats crazy ?!?!

Your father is a bit conservative, I see. ;-)

I'd say that the 24' or so boat should be more than adequate if it can
carry you, your friends and all that gear -- well lashed down -- while
being *well* within its load limits. Don't think I'd want to do it in a
bass boat or pontoon boat, for instance (not that the latter is
trailable, usually). I'd also choose a boat that could get you out to
where you want to go in about a quarter or third of a normal tank of
gas, leaving lots of reserve for those days that you'll be fighting the
wind and waves to get back. If you boat much in the middle of the lower
Bay, you will get hit by squalls that come up just too fast to
completely avoid. If you're down for an hour, you could come up to a
full-fledged squall, so pay close attention to your anchor and rode, and
I'd tend toward a boat with a high bow to ride that sort of wave better,
though you'll want a low(ish) or walk-through transom. The traditional
waterman's work boat is what I'm envisioning as I write, though I'd hate
to trail one of them.

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How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Richar » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:38:56

Probably, but how many are dead?  Crazy doesn't automatically mean dead, and
I'm living proof of that.

Some of the fishing type 21-23' boats have done well in the north sound and
San Juans.  They have a well deck, a walkaround, and a cuddy.  Canvas is
recommended.   Weather is a factor.  Yes.  Yes it is.

R

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Quote:
> My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
> Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
> a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
> time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
> primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
> is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
> fishing boats crazy ?!?!


 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by thunde » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:30:32

Quote:

> Probably, but how many are dead?  Crazy doesn't automatically mean
> dead, and I'm living proof of that.

> Some of the fishing type 21-23' boats have done well in the north
> sound and San Juans.  They have a well deck, a walkaround, and a
> cuddy.  Canvas is recommended.   Weather is a factor.  Yes.  Yes it
> is.

> R

LOL I used to work on an oil rig 100 miles offshore.  I was shocked
to see center console outboards out there.  Now, I thought they were
crazy, but at least some of them must have survived.  (They kept
coming back)
 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Scot » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:12:50

Thanks alot, I appreciate the wise opinions of people .... other than
just the boat salesmen.
 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Surfnturf13018 » Sat, 27 Apr 2002 07:31:02

Headquartered out of the Point Lookout area for many years - also spent time at
Breezy Point south of Anapolis.  Had an 18 ft Sea Ray, a 24 ft Stamus, a 27 ft
Tiara and a 42 Post sportsfish.  Traveled the mid bay with the Sea Ray for
years - (kept it when I bought the other boats)  There were days when I
wouldn't go out in any of the boats but I felt comfortable in the 18 footer
most of the time.  Longer trips to the north and the south (Florida) were in
the sportsfish but for Bay activities, a good 18 footer or better will do fine
as long as you watch the weather - it does come up fast and you have to be
willing to head for the closest shore and wait it out.
 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Adam » Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:03:53

A six foot rowboot will be fine!

Adam


Quote:
> Headquartered out of the Point Lookout area for many years - also spent
time at
> Breezy Point south of Anapolis.  Had an 18 ft Sea Ray, a 24 ft Stamus, a
27 ft
> Tiara and a 42 Post sportsfish.  Traveled the mid bay with the Sea Ray for
> years - (kept it when I bought the other boats)  There were days when I
> wouldn't go out in any of the boats but I felt comfortable in the 18
footer
> most of the time.  Longer trips to the north and the south (Florida) were
in
> the sportsfish but for Bay activities, a good 18 footer or better will do
fine
> as long as you watch the weather - it does come up fast and you have to be
> willing to head for the closest shore and wait it out.

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Vaughn Buc » Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:29:02

Size isn't the only criteria.  How much freeboard?  Self bailing***pit?
Positive flotation?  Etc. I sail on the bay in a 22 footer with 3 foot seas
and never worry BUT lots of freeboard and a self bailing***pit with the
cabin closed.  The day and your capabilities are also part. But on a tough
day, the smaller boats will take a beating.


Quote:
> My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
> Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
> a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
> time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
> primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
> is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
> fishing boats crazy ?!?!

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Richar » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 03:09:31

What he said

R

BTW: I knew of one guy who would go out the Bar (Columbia River) in a bass
boat w 3" freeboard.  But we all knew he was an idiot, we did'nt need this
further proof.

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Quote:
> Size isn't the only criteria.  How much freeboard?  Self bailing***pit?
> Positive flotation?  Etc. I sail on the bay in a 22 footer with 3 foot
seas
> and never worry BUT lots of freeboard and a self bailing***pit with the
> cabin closed.  The day and your capabilities are also part. But on a tough
> day, the smaller boats will take a beating.



> > My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
> > Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
> > a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
> > time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
> > primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
> > is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
> > fishing boats crazy ?!?!

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Adam » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:58:19


Quote:
> What he said

> R

> BTW: I knew of one guy who would go out the Bar (Columbia River) in a bass
> boat w 3" freeboard.  But we all knew he was an idiot, we did'nt need this
> further proof.

Hell I've been out there with a row boat with a 5hp motor, no problem
whatsoever.

It's the sailor not the boat!

Adam

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Vaughn Buc » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:34:50

Partially true, but the better sailor will avoid conditions that overpower
the boat.  Still I see low freeboard boats and the best sailor isn't going
stop a stupid boat at semi-plane from putting a big wave over the side,.


Quote:



> > What he said

> > R

> > BTW: I knew of one guy who would go out the Bar (Columbia River) in a
bass
> > boat w 3" freeboard.  But we all knew he was an idiot, we did'nt need
this
> > further proof.

> Hell I've been out there with a row boat with a 5hp motor, no problem
> whatsoever.

> It's the sailor not the boat!

> Adam

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Richar » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:29:42

Another further proof here, too . . .?

R

<snip>


Quote:



> > What he said

> > R

> > BTW: I knew of one guy who would go out the Bar (Columbia River) in a
bass
> > boat w 3" freeboard.  But we all knew he was an idiot, we did'nt need
this
> > further proof.

> Hell I've been out there with a row boat with a 5hp motor, no problem
> whatsoever.

> It's the sailor not the boat!

> Adam

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by w.. » Thu, 09 May 2002 10:39:51


Quote:
>My father is a retired Coastie who swears he wouldn't go out on the
>Chesapeake Bay (VA Beach to Gloucester, VA area) in anything less than
>a 40' boat, but while diving the "Tower" I see 18-20' boats all the
>time. I want to buy a boat I can tow which limits me to about 24'. I
>primarily want to cruise and dive the Bay with 3 friends.... how big
>is safe enough if I watch the weather ?!?? Are all these little
>fishing boats crazy ?!?!

been 3 years on the bay with a 26'. no problems at all. just don't be
stupid and try to run storms, etc...

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How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Ron Thornt » Mon, 13 May 2002 07:40:39

Fast is good on the bay!

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    "People Eating Tasty Animals"

 
 
 

How big of a boat do you need in the Chesapeake Bay ?

Post by Adam » Mon, 13 May 2002 13:49:55


Quote:
> Fast is good on the bay!

> Southeastern ***ia, home of PETA
>     "People Eating Tasty Animals"

Eat this!