Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by exc.. » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00


This is from http://www.usasoftball.com/CPTS/gamestats/cpts55.htm

So. Cal. All-Stars 0 (0-2)

Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
Natasha Watley lf.........  3  0  0  0    0  3  1  1
Nicole Thompson cf........  3  0  0  0    0  2  3  0
Jenny Topping dh..........  2  0  0  0    1  2  0  0
Tarrah Beyster 1b.........  3  0  0  0    0  2  6  0
Jamie Clark ss............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
 Lindsey Fossatti ph....... 1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
Nicole Victoria 3b........  2  0  0  0    0  2  2  1
Suzy Brazney c............  2  0  0  0    0  1  3  0
Kim Balkan rf.............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  0
Lisa Iancin 2b............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
Kristine Jacobson p.......  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
 Kiera Goerl p............. 0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Totals.................... 22  0  0  0    1 19 18  6

USA Softball 3 (10-0)

Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
Jennifer McFalls 2b.......  3  0  2  1    1  0  0  1
Leah O'Brien-Amico rf.....  3  0  1  2    0  0  0  0
Jennifer Brundage 3b......  3  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Crystl Bustos ss..........  2  0  1  0    1  0  0  1
Teri Klement dh...........  2  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Michele Smith 1b..........  3  1  1  0    0  0  3  0
Stacey Nuveman c..........  3  0  1  0    0  1 18  0
 Dot Richardson pr......... 0  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
Kelly Kretschman cf.......  2  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
 Sheila Douty ph........... 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Amanda Freed lf...........  1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
 Laura Berg ph............. 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Lisa Fernandez p..........  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
Totals.................... 24  3  6  3    2  2 21  2

Score by innings:                   R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
So. Cal. All-Stars    000 000 0  -  0  0  2
USA Softball          000 021    -  3  6  0
-------------------------------------------

E - Clark 2.
LOB - So Cal 2; USA Softball 7.
2B - OBRIEN-AMICO.
SH - FREED.

So. Cal. All-Stars     IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
Kristine Jacobson...  5.0   4   2   0   2   2  19 23
Kiera Goerl.........  1.0   2   1   0   0   0   5  5

USA Softball           IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
Lisa Fernandez......  7.0   0   0   0   1  19  22 23

Win - FERNANDEZ 10-0.  Loss - Jacobson 0-1.  Save - None.
WP - FERNANDEZ. PB - Brazney.
HBP - by Jacobson (KLEMENT).
Umpires -
Start:   Time:   Attendance:

Game Notes:
USA Softball improves to 55-0 on the Central Park to Sydney Tour and      
increases its current win streak to 102 games.  

 
 
 

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by rive.. » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> This is from http://www.usasoftball.com/CPTS/gamestats/cpts55.htm

> So. Cal. All-Stars 0 (0-2)

> Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
> Natasha Watley lf.........  3  0  0  0    0  3  1  1
> Nicole Thompson cf........  3  0  0  0    0  2  3  0
> Jenny Topping dh..........  2  0  0  0    1  2  0  0
> Tarrah Beyster 1b.........  3  0  0  0    0  2  6  0
> Jamie Clark ss............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
>  Lindsey Fossatti ph....... 1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
> Nicole Victoria 3b........  2  0  0  0    0  2  2  1
> Suzy Brazney c............  2  0  0  0    0  1  3  0
> Kim Balkan rf.............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  0
> Lisa Iancin 2b............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
> Kristine Jacobson p.......  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>  Kiera Goerl p............. 0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Totals.................... 22  0  0  0    1 19 18  6

> USA Softball 3 (10-0)

> Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
> Jennifer McFalls 2b.......  3  0  2  1    1  0  0  1
> Leah O'Brien-Amico rf.....  3  0  1  2    0  0  0  0
> Jennifer Brundage 3b......  3  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Crystl Bustos ss..........  2  0  1  0    1  0  0  1
> Teri Klement dh...........  2  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Michele Smith 1b..........  3  1  1  0    0  0  3  0
> Stacey Nuveman c..........  3  0  1  0    0  1 18  0
>  Dot Richardson pr......... 0  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Kelly Kretschman cf.......  2  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
>  Sheila Douty ph........... 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Amanda Freed lf...........  1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
>  Laura Berg ph............. 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Lisa Fernandez p..........  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Totals.................... 24  3  6  3    2  2 21  2

> Score by innings:                   R  H  E
> -------------------------------------------
> So. Cal. All-Stars    000 000 0  -  0  0  2
> USA Softball          000 021    -  3  6  0
> -------------------------------------------

> E - Clark 2.
> LOB - So Cal 2; USA Softball 7.
> 2B - OBRIEN-AMICO.
> SH - FREED.

> So. Cal. All-Stars     IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
> Kristine Jacobson...  5.0   4   2   0   2   2  19 23
> Kiera Goerl.........  1.0   2   1   0   0   0   5  5

> USA Softball           IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
> Lisa Fernandez......  7.0   0   0   0   1  19  22 23

> Win - FERNANDEZ 10-0.  Loss - Jacobson 0-1.  Save - None.
> WP - FERNANDEZ. PB - Brazney.
> HBP - by Jacobson (KLEMENT).
> Umpires -
> Start:   Time:   Attendance:

> Game Notes:
> USA Softball improves to 55-0 on the Central Park to Sydney Tour and
> increases its current win streak to 102 games.

>WOW!

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Post by ERW2 » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Like I said earlier, Joan Joyce in her time was awesome.  What I witnessed last
night watching Lisa Fernandez mow down the So.Cal. Allstars was INCREDIBLE.
NINE*** K's  and they still have to face Michelle Smith and  Christa Williams
today!!  I'm convinced Team USA will be ready for SYDNEY.
ED

Quote:

>So. Cal. All-Stars 0 (0-2)

>Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
>Natasha Watley lf.........  3  0  0  0    0  3  1  1
>Nicole Thompson cf........  3  0  0  0    0  2  3  0
>Jenny Topping dh..........  2  0  0  0    1  2  0  0
>Tarrah Beyster 1b.........  3  0  0  0    0  2  6  0
>Jamie Clark ss............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
> Lindsey Fossatti ph....... 1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
>Nicole Victoria 3b........  2  0  0  0    0  2  2  1
>Suzy Brazney c............  2  0  0  0    0  1  3  0
>Kim Balkan rf.............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  0
>Lisa Iancin 2b............  2  0  0  0    0  2  1  2
>Kristine Jacobson p.......  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Kiera Goerl p............. 0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Totals.................... 22  0  0  0    1 19 18  6

>USA Softball 3 (10-0)

>Name (Pos)                 AB  R  H RBI  BB SO PO  A
>Jennifer McFalls 2b.......  3  0  2  1    1  0  0  1
>Leah O'Brien-Amico rf.....  3  0  1  2    0  0  0  0
>Jennifer Brundage 3b......  3  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Crystl Bustos ss..........  2  0  1  0    1  0  0  1
>Teri Klement dh...........  2  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Michele Smith 1b..........  3  1  1  0    0  0  3  0
>Stacey Nuveman c..........  3  0  1  0    0  1 18  0
> Dot Richardson pr......... 0  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Kelly Kretschman cf.......  2  1  0  0    0  0  0  0
> Sheila Douty ph........... 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Amanda Freed lf...........  1  0  0  0    0  1  0  0
> Laura Berg ph............. 1  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Lisa Fernandez p..........  0  0  0  0    0  0  0  0
>Totals.................... 24  3  6  3    2  2 21  2

>Score by innings:                   R  H  E
>-------------------------------------------
>So. Cal. All-Stars    000 000 0  -  0  0  2
>USA Softball          000 021    -  3  6  0
>-------------------------------------------

>E - Clark 2.
>LOB - So Cal 2; USA Softball 7.
>2B - OBRIEN-AMICO.
>SH - FREED.

>So. Cal. All-Stars     IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
>Kristine Jacobson...  5.0   4   2   0   2   2  19 23
>Kiera Goerl.........  1.0   2   1   0   0   0   5  5

>USA Softball           IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  AB BF
>Lisa Fernandez......  7.0   0   0   0   1  19  22 23

>Win - FERNANDEZ 10-0.  Loss - Jacobson 0-1.  Save - None.
>WP - FERNANDEZ. PB - Brazney.
>HBP - by Jacobson (KLEMENT).

rec.sport.softball

 
 
 

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by AxelJe » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00

We didn't get to see a perfect game, but we did get to see the spectacle of
Lisa striking out 4 batters in one inning!

So she didn't throw a perfect game... she still looked pretty awesome out
there.  Honestly, I wonder if "the streak" was getting to be a distraction that
she didn't need going into Sydney.  It may have been a good thing to just get
it over with and ease the pressure that comes with maintaining such an
extraordinary level of performance.  You don't need any added pressure to keep
up a streak like that when you're in Olympic competition.

Jeff

 
 
 

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by equal.. » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>Like I said earlier, Joan Joyce in her time was awesome.  What I witnessed last
>night watching Lisa Fernandez mow down the So.Cal. Allstars was INCREDIBLE.
>NINE*** K's  and they still have to face Michelle Smith and  Christa Williams
>today!!  I'm convinced Team USA will be ready for SYDNEY.
>ED

Looking at this so-called "tour" I would say there has been little
competition for the Olympic team to tune up on...what I see is competition
has scored what, three or four runs in the entire 55 previous games? In
less than a month, we shall see if playing garbage competition makes your
team play LIKE garbage when the real heat is on.

Vince

 
 
 

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by Gabe Guer » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Vince,
I am of the same philosophy, that is, in order to get better, you have to
better..... but, if you're already the best, there's not much you can do, other
than to find the best of what's left and play them the best you can.

Gabe G.
California Thunder 18U
http://softballweb.eteamz.com/thunder/

 
 
 

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Post by Gabe Guer » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Sorry for the typo.

Quote:
>Vince,
>I am of the same philosophy, that is, in order to get better, you have to play

better.....
Quote:
>but, if you're already the best, there's not much you can do, other
>than to find the best of what's left and play them the best you can.

>Gabe G.
>California Thunder 18U
>http://softballweb.eteamz.com/thunder/

 
 
 

Oh, look, Lisa Fernandez didn't throw a perfect game, only a no-hitter

Post by Usotf » Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Vince says:
<< Looking at this so-called "tour" I would say there has been little
competition for the Olympic team to tune up on...what I see is competition
has scored what, three or four runs in the entire 55 previous games? In
less than a month, we shall see if playing garbage competition makes your
team play LIKE garbage when the real heat is on. >>
There has been a lot of criticism of the tour.  And there is no question some
of the teams have been weak.  However, many of the teams (the so cal allstars,
for example) are as strong or stronger than some ot the teams in the Olympics
(New Zealand, Cuba, Italy, Canada).  For their "pre-olympic tour" the
Australians are playing 7 games in 10 days against Australian club teams.  I
question the level of their competition.  The real question is who should the
US be playing?  None of the top teams (US, Australia, Japan, China) are going
to play each other this close to the Olympics.  I think the tour has provided
great publicity for women's softball, and, yes, I think the competition against
many (not all) of the teams has been what the US needed to get ready for
Sydney.  The US and Australia are the favorites for the gold, but both China
and Japan will have something to say about it.  I expect to see US and
Australia playing for the gold on September 26, but I wouldn't be terribly
surprised if either Japan or China were able to sneak in instead.
 
 
 

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Post by Jazzso » Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>There has been a lot of criticism of the tour.  And there is no question some
>of the teams have been weak.  However, many of the teams (the so cal
>allstars,
>for example) are as strong or stronger than some ot the teams in the Olympics
>(New Zealand, Cuba, Italy, Canada).

Maybe but I wonder how they would do against Italy or Canada.

Quote:
>For their "pre-olympic tour" the
>Australians are playing 7 games in 10 days against Australian club teams.  I
>question the level of their competition.

The Australian club teams are FAR better than the teams here in the US. Its no
contest.

Quote:
>The US and Australia are the favorites for the gold, but both China
>and Japan will have something to say about it.  I expect to see US and
>Australia playing for the gold on September 26, but I wouldn't be terribly
>surprised if either Japan or China were able to sneak in instead.

This is very true. The stretch of games against Japan, China, and Australia
should be tough. Given the Aussies have the home field advantage it should be
great softball.
 
 
 

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Post by cyfairs.. » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:59:37

.

Quote:
> The Australian club teams are FAR better than the teams here in the
US. Its no
> contest.

Didn't the Phoenix Storm beat both Canada and Australia and Team Texas
beat Canada in the Canada Cup?  The US team has been tuning up against
the WPSL as well.  Are they better than the Australian Club teams?  How
about the WPSL All Stars in the final four games?

True, the club and all star teams have not been much competition for the
US team.  However, I doubt if the Australian team is seeing any pitching
near the caliber of Smith and Fernandez.  On the other hand, when the US
teams are playing the WPSL pitchers, they are facing some pretty
good pitching.

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Post by Jazzso » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:44:34

Quote:
>Didn't the Phoenix Storm beat both Canada and Australia and Team Texas
>beat Canada in the Canada Cup?  

In pool play but not when it counted. The Aussies beat them in the double
elimination

Quote:
>The US team has been tuning up against
>the WPSL as well.  Are they better than the Australian Club teams?  How
>about the WPSL All Stars in the final four games?

The WPSL has some good players but I don't think they can beat the Storm or
Team Texas. No the All Stars will lose all four. The hitting in the WPSL is
next too nothing according to the stats.

Quote:
>True, the club and all star teams have not been much competition for the
>US team.  However, I doubt if the Australian team is seeing any pitching
>near the caliber of Smith and Fernandez.  On the other hand, when the US
>teams are playing the WPSL pitchers, they are facing some pretty
>good pitching.

There is the rub. I know when we were in Canada they had MEN throwing daily
batting practice. Thats not too bad. They are facing some good pitching on
occasion but is it enough. Thats the question. I think given the home field
advantage the Aussies will be double tough. They also have great pitching with
Roche, Wilkins, Harding and Hardee.As I said before it will be great softball.

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Post by AMERKI » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:13:54

Quote:
>> The Australian club teams are FAR better than the teams here in the
>US. Its no
>> contest.

I have to disagree with this.   I have pitched in Australia for a season and I
don't think this is true.   Their club teams are good but, I don't think their
top ones compare to our top US teams.  

On the tour subject, I know that several National teams aren't concerned about
how good their competition is during the build up.  For example, I pitched on
the US Men's team in South Africa this year.  Our build up was against all the
best teams we could play.  It was great.  But, New Zealand, the eventual
champion, didn't want to play many top ranked teams in preparation.  They were
building team chemistry and working on their game plans.   After all, even in
the world of Women's softball, there are no real secrets.  What I mean is, USA
Women aren't going to have a secret weapon for Aussie.  Aussie knows who Lisa
Fernandez is, etc.  There aren't many surpises.   So, what I'm saying is,
there's 2 ways to look at it.

I also agree with someone's comment about men throwing the women's team batting
practice.  One of the Men's Nat'l pitchers did so about a week or 2 ago in San
Diego.

Bill

 
 
 

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Post by rive.. » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:00:00

just give ms. fernandez one run and the ball/if that not good enought
then nothing is!

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Post by Pobo » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>The Australian club teams are FAR better than the teams here in the US. Its
>no
>contest.

Really, Don?  that is not what we saw a few years ago when a couple of them
came through Calif. It seemed to me that their 16 year olds were equivelent to
an average 14U group of our kids.

I'll admit, it was a limited exposure...so, I'm interested why you feel they
are "far" better and how you know.

bob

 
 
 

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Post by Jazzso » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>>The Australian club teams are FAR better than the teams here in the US. Its
>>no
>>contest.

>Really, Don?  that is not what we saw a few years ago when a couple of them
>came through Calif. It seemed to me that their 16 year olds were equivelent
>to
>an average 14U group of our kids.

I saw them also and was not impressed. However I have seen players with the
womens club teams not in the National program and they are good.

Quote:
>I'll admit, it was a limited exposure...so, I'm interested why you feel they
>are "far" better and how you know.

>bob

Cause they get to play against the best players in the country on a consistant
basis. We right now do not have that. Look at the current team and ask yourself
what was a major factor in their development. I think when the players get to
play against the best competition all summer they get better. Remember when
Bakersfield had their tournament? You could see Smitty against Granger or
Williams against Compton or Boyd against Weiman. There were great teams playing
each other every weekend. I think this makes the players work harder and
improve greatly.

Not Signed.