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I have never heard an ASA commissioner or directer speak to a room full of
people and not ask the audience what can be done to keep ASA/USA Softball in
the forefront in the world of softball. Well, this is the sort of thing which
turns people against ASA and it is a shame the the locals organizations do some
things upset people.
One of my pet peeves, Don and Andy can probably attest to this, is that folks
automatically blame ASA for any wrongdoing, perceived or actual, that takes
place in their State/Metro without getting the facts about the situation. I
doubt that SoCal is the only area where things are done outside the ASA Code
and I guess to some point, they have the right to operate their own
organization as they see fit.
Though I am probably considered an advocate of ASA on this board, I can only
suggest that if you don't like the rules of the organization, find another
sanctioning body and play their game. Whether it be an insurance,
registration, equipment or tournament issue, if the grass is greener on the
other side of the fence, I'd be looking for some wire clippers. And I don't
see how anyone could blame you one bit.
It is no different than shopping. You go to the store where you are going to
get the best bang for your buck. The only way the competition gets the idea is
by watching the other parking lot fill up while their's sits empty. There is
no reason the same theory shouldn't apply here.
JMHO,
Mike
I personally have no prefernce as far as ASA vs NSA as an Organisation. Here is
my experience in dealing with both.
Nsa is a much more player friendly org. It allows us caoches to play more kids
and not have such a strict rule in dealing with the lineup cards. In nsa you
can bat 11 kids.
Other than that, its not much different from a coaches standpoint.
Now for ASA here is what i like. keep in mind NSA is just starting to find its
way in ca.
The umpires in our ASA tourneys are much better IMO. I think many of the NSA
crews are coming from slowpitch, im not sure, just a guess.
The teams/ competition in the ASA tourneys is better. we dont want to play in
weak tourneys. To say if you dont like one org, just go play somewhere else, is
not really doable.
IMO the org is only as good as the teams playing in that Org. Since ASA has
almost all of the teams in CA that is where we will have to play for now. If in
2 years there is really no distinction as far as teams playing in NSA or ASA, I
will play in either.
As a team, we want good competition, if that is in ASA or NSA I could care
less. We are in it for the girls, not the organization. I think NSA coming to
Ca is a good thing, simply because now the ASA has to compete a little for
teams.
Its too bad that these organizations will soon be battling, and the teams/girls
ill be the people stuck in the middle.
corey
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> None of our ASA registered travel teams ever received "packets" from So Cal ASA
> regarding changes in insurance registration and coverage. We have been in
> contact with several other ASA registered travel organizations who have never
> received any information regarding insurance changes. The So Cal ASA web site
> has NEVER been updated to show that insurance is being handled differently
> this year. And the web-link to Bollinger remains on their website to this day.
> If you try to use the Bollinger ASA insurance website to sign up for insurance
> it lets you sign up and pay your fee--then about 2 or 3 weeks later you receive
> notification that you CAN'T register thru Bollinger and you are not covered.
> Someone tells you to call Linda Henry, but good luck getting thru to her. It
> took us a week of phone calls and emails. It's not her fault, So Cal ASA
> dropped this mess of individually registering over 500 travel teams in her lap
> and she has no one to help her. Yes, I am frustrated at being required to buy
> insurance thru So Cal ASA that probably won't provide the coverage that my
> teams need - according to Margaret at Bollinger the ins is Individual and will
> not cover players that are not registered with ASA if they come practice or
> try-out or play on your team. You will be required to register each girl that
> hasn't previously registered thru ASA before they can practice, play, or
> try-out with you team. Yes I think thats a PROBLEM!
> Beth
> None of our ASA registered travel teams ever received "packets" from So Cal ASA
> regarding changes in insurance registration and coverage. We have been in
> contact with several other ASA registered travel organizations who have never
> received any information regarding insurance changes. The So Cal ASA web site
> has NEVER been updated to show that insurance is being handled differently
> this year. And the web-link to Bollinger remains on their website to this day.
> If you try to use the Bollinger ASA insurance website to sign up for insurance
> it lets you sign up and pay your fee--then about 2 or 3 weeks later you receive
> notification that you CAN'T register thru Bollinger and you are not covered.
> Someone tells you to call Linda Henry, but good luck getting thru to her. It
> took us a week of phone calls and emails. It's not her fault, So Cal ASA
> dropped this mess of individually registering over 500 travel teams in her lap
> and she has no one to help her. Yes, I am frustrated at being required to buy
> insurance thru So Cal ASA that probably won't provide the coverage that my
> teams need - according to Margaret at Bollinger the ins is Individual and will
> not cover players that are not registered with ASA if they come practice or
> try-out or play on your team. You will be required to register each girl that
> hasn't previously registered thru ASA before they can practice, play, or
> try-out with you team. Yes I think thats a PROBLEM!
> Beth
I believe you are correct about the "individual registrations" coming out of
OKC, however, to the best of my knowledge, it isn't mandatory. The method of
registration was supposed to be left up to the State/Metros.
I know that the ASAs method in which the information was collected from the
State/Metro organizations was in such disarray, our commissioner is considering
NOT accepting individual registrations until OKC can resolve their issues.
However, I still have not seen anyone provide documentation that ASA requires
insurance. It certainly is not part of the Code or roster agreements.
Individual registration is a plus to the organizations that have multiple
"recreational" teams that play league ball and at the same time play on an
"all-star" type of travel ball team. The players are registered for all ASA
teams on which they play and need not re-register every time they sign a new
roster.
Has it proven to be a money maker? I would say yes, but I do not think there
is as much additional "profit" as some believe. Individual registrations
increase the paperwork 10-fold.
JMHO,
Mike
>I want to respond because I think some of the original concerns and
>complaints I had have been tied into Socal ASA with respect to
>individual insurance and not where at least "I " intended it to which is
>the National Office. I fully think National is behind the individual
>registration and the use of Bollinger as an ASA "sole source" provider
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