14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by cyaro.. » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00


1999 Girl's 14-Under Fast Pitch
National Championship Results
Garland, TX

 Place  Team Name             Hometown             Record
 1      Tuff "E" Nuff         Chino Hills, CA      7-1
 2      Tampa Mustangs        Tampa, FL            8-2
 3      High Sierra Diamonds  Reno, NV             5-2
 4      Invasion              Yorba Linda, CA      6-2
 t5     Hotshots-Swan         Tempe, AZ            5-2
 t5     X-treme               Olathe, KS           5-2
 t7     California Squeeze    Mission Viejo, CA    7-2
 t7     So. Gwinnett Comets   Snellville, GA       7-2
 t9     Heartland Havoc       Moline, IL           3-2
 t9     USA Athletics         Santa Ana, CA        6-2
 t9     Sting                 Irvine, CA           3-2
 t9     O.C. Case Batbusters  Santa Ana, CA        5-2
 t13    So. Cal. Diamonds     Thousand Oaks, CA    5-2
 t13    La. Patriots          Baton Rouge, LA      4-2
 t13    Intensity             Owasso, OK           4-2
 t13    Las Vegas Blast       Las Vegas, NV        4-2
 t17    OK 'Lil Saints        Oklahoma City, OK    2-2
 t17    Orland Park Sparks    Orland Park, IL      2-2
 t17    Vienna Stars          Vienna, VA           2-2
 t17    S.A. Illusions        San Antonio, TX      3-2
 t17    Spokane Storm         Spokane, WA          4-2
 t17    California Cruisers   Tustin, CA           2-2
 t17    Pearl City Pearls     Pearl City, HI       3-2
 t17    OK All-Stars          Tulsa, OK            2-2

 t25    Fort Worth            Fort Worth, TX       2-2
        Batbusters
 t25    Texas Sox             Dallas, TX           2-2
 t25    OK Fury               Sand Springs, OK     3-2
 t25    Hearts of Texas       Austin, TX           2-2
 t25    Diamond Dusters Gold  Bremerton, WA        2-2
 t25    K.C. White Sox        Kansas City, MO      3-2
 t25    Cowgirls              Everman, TX          2-2
 t25    AZ 'Lil Saints        Phoenix, AZ          2-2
 t33    WA - Lady Hawks       Redmond, WA          1-2
 t33    Hilliard Cats Blue    Hilliard, OH         1-2
 t33    CO Commotion          Westminster, CO      2-2
 t33    T.E. Elite            Nashville, TN        1-2
 t33    Texas Bandits         Garland, TX          1-2
 t33    Fear This             Dallas, TX           1-2
 t33    Orcutt Express        Orcutt, CA           2-2
 t33    San Jose Strikkers    San Jose, CA         1-2
 t33    Frost Falcons         Chattanooga, TN      1-2
 t33    Texas Spirit          De Soto, TX          2-2
 t33    AZ - 'Lil Cats        Tucson, AZ           2-2
 t33    Lilburn T-Birds       Lilburn, GA          3-2
 t33    Abilene Blue Sox      Abilene, TX          3-2
 t33    Oak Park Windmills    Oak Park, IL         3-2
 t33    Alleycats             Healdton, OK         2-2
 t33    AL -Storm             Montgomery, AL       1-2
 t49    OK - Commotion        Oklahoma City, OK    1-2
 t49    Diamond Girls         Buffalo, NY          1-2
 t49    Olathe Rockets        Olathe, KS           1-2
 t49    Bloomington Force     Bloomington, MN      1-2
 t49    American Pastime      Upland, CA           1-2
 t49    K.C. Breeze           Shawnee Mission, KS  1-2
 t49    N. Hampton Rebels     Holland, PA          1-2
 t49    Jr. Blue Buckaroos    Fort Collins, CO     1-2
 t49    Elite                 Oklahoma City, OK    1-2
 t49    Texas Blast           Garland, TX          1-2
 t49    California Breeze     Sacramento, CA       1-2
 t49    White Bear Lake       White Bear Lake, MN  1-2
 t49    Echoe Renegades       Omaha, NE            1-2
 t49    St. Louis Sluggers    St. Louis, MO        1-2
 t49    Texas Raiders         Corsicana, TX        1-2
 t49    California Force      Fresno, CA           1-2
 t65    Irving Astros         Irving, TX           0-2

 t65    Columbia Cascade      Vancouver, WA        0-2
        Magic
 t65    AZ - Destiny          Glendale, AZ         0-2
 t65    Texas Playmakers      Garland, TX          0-2
 t65    Indiana Magic         Lafayette, IN        0-2
 t65    FL - Quicksilver      Sarasota, FL         0-2
 t65    Saugus Wild Things    Saugus, MA           0-2
 t65    Texas Gamebreakers    Waco, TX             0-2
 t65    WV - Diamond Dusters  Huntington, WV       0-2
 t65    OK - Jitterbugs       Oklahoma City, OK    0-2
 t65    Connecticut Thunder   Milford, CT          0-2
 t65    Kansas Attack         Topeka, KS           0-2
 t65    Paris Lady Reds       South Paris, ME      0-2
 t65    Georgia Phoenix       Watkinsville, GA     0-2
 t65    Trevians              Northfield, IL       0-2
 t65    Ottumwa Crushers      Ottumwa, ID          0-2

 t65    Texas Taz             Bryan/College        0-2
                              Station, TX
 t65    Texas Fusion          Garland, TX          0-2
 t65    Garland Vision        Garland, TX          0-2
 t65    Compuware             Detroit, MI          0-2
 t65    Texas Rage            Garland, TX          0-2
 t65    Alaska Avalanche      Anchorage, AK        0-2
 t65    Texans                Garland, TX          0-2
 t65    Chatham Heat          Chatham, IL          0-2
 t65    OK Elite              Lawton, OK           0-2
 t65    X-plosion             Rapid City, SD       0-2

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by JSteph15 » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

its interesting that you have 19 teams from texas, and the best finish tied for
17th, yet you  have only 13 teams from cal and yet 6 of those teams finish in
the top 13 obviously cal has the stronger programs but cannot qualify more
teams than a weaker states programs , evidently texas teams must do a lot more
traveling to other states to qualify than california teams, or there is a
problem with the selection process.
(any thoughts or factual reasoning for this discrepancy)

reflections of a softball fan

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by Tim Pierc » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

If you look further, there were ZERO Houston Area 14U teams at ASA
Nationals.  The majority of the Texas teams (14 of 19) were local teams.
Many of the top teams did not attend with school in session.  For example,
the Texas (Friendswood) Illusions, took 3rd of 150 teams at NSA Nationals in
C***te with an 11-2 record (Tampa Mustangs took 1st there).  This
outstanding team was in school during the ASA Nationals.  Due to this
unfortunate timing by ASA, Texas did not get its full compliment of top
teams as many went to NSA or AFA in late July or early August.

Regards,

Tim Pierce


Quote:
>its interesting that you have 19 teams from texas, and the best finish tied
for
>17th, yet you  have only 13 teams from cal and yet 6 of those teams finish
in
>the top 13 obviously cal has the stronger programs but cannot qualify more
>teams than a weaker states programs , evidently texas teams must do a lot
more
>traveling to other states to qualify than california teams, or there is a
>problem with the selection process.
>(any thoughts or factual reasoning for this discrepancy)

>reflections of a softball fan


 
 
 

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Post by fpsbfa » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

How many of the 19 Texas teams actually qualified? Anyone know the number?


Quote:

>If you look further, there were ZERO Houston Area 14U teams at ASA
>Nationals.  The majority of the Texas teams (14 of 19) were local teams.
>Many of the top teams did not attend with school in session.  For example,
>the Texas (Friendswood) Illusions, took 3rd of 150 teams at NSA Nationals in
>C***te with an 11-2 record (Tampa Mustangs took 1st there).  This
>outstanding team was in school during the ASA Nationals.  Due to this
>unfortunate timing by ASA, Texas did not get its full compliment of top
>teams as many went to NSA or AFA in late July or early August.

>Regards,

>Tim Pierce



>>its interesting that you have 19 teams from texas, and the best finish tied
>for
>>17th, yet you  have only 13 teams from cal and yet 6 of those teams finish
>in
>>the top 13 obviously cal has the stronger programs but cannot qualify more
>>teams than a weaker states programs , evidently texas teams must do a lot
>more
>>traveling to other states to qualify than california teams, or there is a
>>problem with the selection process.
>>(any thoughts or factual reasoning for this discrepancy)

>>reflections of a softball fan

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by Tim Pierc » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Whoa, JSteph...you're adding a lot to my post.  I merely stated that the
best 19 Texas teams were not at Garland.  I was not taking away anything
from any individual team that was there, nor making any statements about
Texas vs California.  I only stated that many good Texas teams were not at
Nationals.  (In the Houston area, school was in session on 8/10 or 8/11 and
schools were already having volleyball tryouts).

Let's stick with the facts, and not add a bunch of innuendos.

Tim

Quote:
>>unfortunate timing by ASA, Texas did not get its full compliment of top
>>teams as many went to NSA or AFA in late July or early August.

>tim are you trying to tell me  that your best 20 teams in texas are better
than
>the top 20 teams in california, get real.

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by Andy Anderso » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Many good teams from California also were not there
Quote:

> Whoa, JSteph...you're adding a lot to my post.  I merely stated that the
> best 19 Texas teams were not at Garland.  I was not taking away anything
> from any individual team that was there, nor making any statements about
> Texas vs California.  I only stated that many good Texas teams were not at
> Nationals.  (In the Houston area, school was in session on 8/10 or 8/11 and
> schools were already having volleyball tryouts).

> Let's stick with the facts, and not add a bunch of innuendos.

> Tim


> >>unfortunate timing by ASA, Texas did not get its full compliment of top
> >>teams as many went to NSA or AFA in late July or early August.

> >tim are you trying to tell me  that your best 20 teams in texas are better
> than
> >the top 20 teams in california, get real.

 
 
 

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Post by Tim Pierc » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

JSteph, correction to your post.  Not sure where you are getting your
information.

The Hearts of Texas qualified for Garland in a National Qualifier.  They
were out of Metro Austin.  They are a very solid team, but I am not sure how
they did at Austin Metro.

The Friendswood Illusions were Texas State Champions for ASA in 1999.

The South Houston Mystix were Metro Houston Champions for ASA in 1999.

Regards,
Tim


Quote:
>as a matter of fact , the hearts of texas did play in the afa tournament,
and
>the asa tournament and they placed well in afa but tied for 17th at asa,
this
>team was the texas state champion, are you saying the hearts of texas was
not
>your best team.

 
 
 

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Post by Andy Anderso » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Good point Tony but wouldn't you agree that the LV teams are palying
down here more and more which explains their improvement and success?
Quote:

> 2 nevada teams in tourney ...2 nevada teams in top 13   not to bad

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by Tim Pierc » Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:00:00

JSteph, correction to your post.  Not sure where you are getting your
information.

The Hearts of Texas qualified for Garland in a National Qualifier.  They
were out of Metro Austin.  They are a very solid team, but I am not sure how
they did at Austin Metro.

The Friendswood Illusions were Texas State Champions for ASA in 1999.

The South Houston Mystix were Metro Houston Champions for ASA in 1999.

Regards,
Tim


Quote:
>as a matter of fact , the hearts of texas did play in the afa tournament,
and
>the asa tournament and they placed well in afa but tied for 17th at asa,
this
>team was the texas state champion, are you saying the hearts of texas was
not
>your best team.

 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by JSteph15 » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>unfortunate timing by ASA, Texas did not get its full compliment of top
>teams as many went to NSA or AFA in late July or early August.

tim are you trying to tell me  that your best 20 teams in texas are better than
the top 20 teams in california, get real.
 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by JSteph15 » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

as a matter of fact , the hearts of texas did play in the afa tournament, and
the asa tournament and they placed well in afa but tied for 17th at asa, this
team was the texas state champion, are you saying the hearts of texas was not
your best team.
 
 
 

14-u Nationals, from ASA web page

Post by JSteph15 » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

tim my problem is with the selection process, i understand that you do have a
lot of good teams in texas, and my  real concern is, cal has a lot of teams
that go out of state to qualify, without doing so, ( a lot of money spent) and
the host state gets to add teams willy nilly, I dont understand the process.
i hope that you understand that this post isnt sour grapes im just questioning
the process

a concerned fan)  

 
 
 

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Post by TDLEO » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

2 nevada teams in tourney ...2 nevada teams in top 13   not to bad
 
 
 

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Post by ALAN11 » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>2 nevada teams in tourney ...2 nevada teams in top 13   not to bad

Was the team from Reno made up of players that won the 12u Bobby Sox
Championship a couple of years ago?
 
 
 

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Post by lcklei » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

other way around Al.  This is the team that was in AFA tourney's at the
same time it was bobby sox and played down to bobby sox to win nationals
in , like 95 0r 96.  giant blonde pitcher  ( at least that's how one of
their fans told it to me in Garland)  Solid team.  The Lady coaching the
team is very aggressive.
Quote:

> >2 nevada teams in tourney ...2 nevada teams in top 13   not to bad

> Was the team from Reno made up of players that won the 12u Bobby Sox
> Championship a couple of years ago?