Cleaning Uniforms

Cleaning Uniforms

Post by Solomand » Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:00


I have a pair of Santelli FIE knickers with something that looks
suspiciously like mold growing on them (little gray coin shaped things).
Washing in cold water with detergent had not had an effect.  I have been
told that washing nylon knickers with bleach will discolor them and
decrease their strength.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
Joel Solomon

 
 
 

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Post by Fernando Dia » Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I have a pair of Santelli FIE knickers with something that looks
> suspiciously like mold growing on them (little gray coin shaped things).
> Washing in cold water with detergent had not had an effect.  I have been
> told that washing nylon knickers with will discolor them and
> decrease their strength.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Joel Solomon

From your description they look a lot like mould. It is quite difficult
to remove them. My wife (fencer and women) suggest to use bleach, since
the mould will decrease their strength more than the bleach. I also
have used one hot water, without large problems, but I don't know
the Santelli stuff, so .... I accept no liability..

Regards
Fer
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Post by Simone van Egmon » Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I have a pair of Santelli FIE knickers with something that looks
> suspiciously like mold growing on them (little gray coin shaped things).
> Washing in cold water with detergent had not had an effect.  I have been
> told that washing nylon knickers with bleach will discolor them and
> decrease their strength.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Joel Solomon

I do not know what Santelli is, since I fence in Europe, all we get is
Allstar,  Uhlmann, France Lames etc.
But if there is a yellow inside, which means Kevlar or simular, you can
clean was it with a bleach based washing powder (something which will
make it nice and white) but NEVER put it outside to dry, sunlight is
wat will reduce the strength rappidly.
(If I am honest I think you are to late and better get a new pair,
take that one out of the bag everytime you fenced in it and wash
regularly and give it enough time to dry....)
If your nickers are all white (originally that is) I cannot give you
advice because I don't know the chemical resistance of that fabric.

Goodluck,

Simone
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Post by Matt Plunket » Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Allstar,  Uhlmann, France Lames etc.
> But if there is a yellow inside, which means Kevlar or simular, you can
> clean was it with a bleach based washing powder (something which will
> make it nice and white) but NEVER put it outside to dry, sunlight is
> wat will reduce the strength rappidly.
> Simone
> -)------

Actually, as suggested by the manufacturer, bleach will damage
Kevlar far more rapidly than sunlight. Nylon and cotton (not Derek)
are usually not damaged by bleach.
 
 
 

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Post by Drew Thompso » Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> But if there is a yellow inside, which means Kevlar or simular, you can
> clean was it with a bleach based washing powder (something which will
> make it nice and white) but NEVER put it outside to dry, sunlight is
> wat will reduce the strength rappidly.

Actually, as suggested by most manufacturers, bleach will damage
kevlar more rapidly than sunlight will.  Nylon and cotton (not
Derek) are typically not damaged by bleach.
 
 
 

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Post by Jessie Mical » Wed, 12 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Getting mold stains off of jackets is practically impossible. I've never had
any luck with anything that wouldn't ruin the fabric at the same time. Even DD7
doesn't work. I frequently get calls at work about removing mold stains from
wood - the answer for that is 25% bleach (+ a dash of trisodium phosphate) or
dilute oxalic acid, neither of which I would recommend for fencing uniforms!

Jessie
Plant Pathologist (as opposed to Combat Botanist)

 
 
 

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Post by Drew Thompso » Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Getting mold stains off of jackets is practically impossible. I've never had
> any luck with anything that wouldn't ruin the fabric at the same time. Even DD7
> doesn't work. I frequently get calls at work about removing mold stains from
> wood - the answer for that is 25% bleach (+ a dash of trisodium phosphate) or
> dilute oxalic acid, neither of which I would recommend for fencing uniforms!

> Jessie
> Plant Pathologist (as opposed to Combat Botanist)

The oxalic acid approach might not be too bad.  I'm not sure what it
wouild do to nylon, but Kevlar is completely stable to acid.  In
fact, the fibers of Kevlar that are woven into cloth are made from a
solution of the polymer dissoled in hot, concentrated sulfuric acid!  
It's one of the only solents for Kevlar.  Getting hold of oxalic
acid, howeer, could be problematic unless you hae friends in
chemistry...

Drew Thompson
UC Berkeley

 
 
 

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Post by ECCL » Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:00:00

j:
why risk an infection? BURN 'EM!! BURN 'EM now!!
...cold water and woolite--no good?
i assume the FIE are the same stretch nylon/cotton blend..(startex)
good luck!
j

 
 
 

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Post by David W Neev » Fri, 14 Jun 1996 04:00:00


OK, I asked at the drycleaner's today about mold a kevlar uniform, and they
said that there were a couple of different spotting compounds for protien
based stains which could be used. Even just hitting it with the steam jet used
for spot cleaning might work.

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Post by Solomand » Mon, 17 Jun 1996 04:00:00

I finally succeeded by using (in rapid succession) K2r, followed by Dow
Smart Cleanser (contains bleach and baking soda and not recommended for
fabrics, but at this point I had nothing to lose), followed by something
called "Dr. Zap", followed by a wash in warm water with detergent and
bleach.... Presto!  I can't tell which component did the trick, but i am
leaning towards the bleach/peroxide cleanser.  If I ever have this problem
again (which I sincerely hope that I won't), I promise to be more
scientific and try one thing at a time.
Regards and Thanks to all,
Joel Solomon

 
 
 

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Post by Robert Adam » Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I finally succeeded by using (in rapid succession) K2r, followed by Dow
> Smart Cleanser (contains bleach and baking soda and not recommended for
> fabrics, but at this point I had nothing to lose), followed by something
> called "Dr. Zap", followed by a wash in warm water with detergent and
> bleach.... Presto!  I can't tell which component did the trick, but i am
> leaning towards the bleach/peroxide cleanser.  If I ever have this problem
> again (which I sincerely hope that I won't), I promise to be more
> scientific and try one thing at a time.
> Regards and Thanks to all,
> Joel Solomon

Just tried the hydrogen peroxide/bleach combo on my cotton knickers.
First, I scrubbed in the peroxide, then scrubbed in some bleach.  Then
let them soak in a peroxide/bleach bath for a while.  Worked like a
charm.

Rob