Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by halji.. » Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Hello, I am trying to convince the athletic department here at UF that it
would be a "wise decision" to start a fencing team here.  In order to be able
to talk seriously about my proposal, I need to have a team budget,
including travel to meets.  I therefore need to know who we'd fence in
florida, georgia, alabama, poss. the surrounding states as well.  If you know
of any schools that have competetive teams, please reply to this post, I
don't care if you overflow my mailbox.  In fact, I'd prefer that to the
alternative of no replies (which I got last time I posted this message)

-Hal

 
 
 

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by David Saper » Sat, 22 Jun 1996 04:00:00

The following is a list of all of the schools which have fencing programs
at the NCAA level:

Air Force
Bard College
Baruch College
Boston College
Brandeis University
Brown University
Cal State, Fullerton
Cal Tech
Case Western Reserve
Chicago, University of
City College of N.Y.
Cleveland State
Columbia/Barnard
Cornell University
Detroit Mercy
Drew University
Duke University
Fairleigh***enson
Harvard University
Haverford College
Hollins College
Hunter College
James Madison
Johns Hopkins
Lafayette College
Lawrence University
Long Beach State
M.I.T.
Michigan State
New York University
NJ Institute of Technology
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State University
Penn State
Pennsylvania, University of
Princeton University
Rutgers University
St. John's University
Stanford University
Stevens Tech
Temple University
U.C.S.D.
UNC, Chapel Hill
Vassar College
Wayne State
Wellesley College
Yale University

Also note that I believe that Cal State - Fullerton has dropped their
program with the retirement of their coach.

David Sapery
--
David Sapery



 
 
 

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by Eric D » Sat, 22 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Hello, I am trying to convince the athletic department here at UF that it
>would be a "wise decision" to start a fencing team here.  In order to be able
>to talk seriously about my proposal, I need to have a team budget,
>including travel to meets.  I therefore need to know who we'd fence in
>florida, georgia, alabama, poss. the surrounding states as well.  If you know
>of any schools that have competetive teams, please reply to this post, I
>don't care if you overflow my mailbox.  In fact, I'd prefer that to the
>alternative of no replies (which I got last time I posted this message)

>-Hal

Ooohh, looks like you should have done your homework before making the proposal
to the athletic department.  Fencing isn't top of the list for the athletic
department, and the fencing community should do all it can to help prepare
college clubs be prepared to make the move to becoming a team (although I
really don't see the benefits of being a team, other than maybe some
additional funding, which is more a coin toss than a guarantee...).  Things
you and other clubs should have before even hinting on a proposal is a working
budget, where the opposing teams are, who gets to be on the team, a spiffy
video on fencing (15 minute video about the training, competition, and
benefits of the sport) to sell the idea to the athletic department.  They
really have no clue about what fencing is, so proposing the idea to them
without a thorough packet of information will only allow them the opportunity
to file your idea in the garbage can.

EDEW

 
 
 

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by Ros » Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Hi,

Sad to say, but University of Chicago has dropped its varsity fencing
program.  As many people remember, I sent out a plea to the fencing community
for letters of support.  Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to thank
everyone personally, but thanks to all who wrote to the university president.
We had hoped the university would change its mind, however other factors
worked against us.  Nevertheless, fencing is still alive at U of C and we
hope to compete at more USFA tournaments in the next year!

Once again, thanks.

        --Rosa Chuang
        U of Chicago Fencing Club

 
 
 

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by Mordechai T. Abz » Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:00:00



DS> The following is a list of all of the schools which have fencing programs
DS> at the NCAA level:

Hmm.  Is college fencing split into NCAA divisions, the way other sports are?

--
                          Mordechai T. Abzug

The Magic of Windows:  Turns a 486 back into a PC/XT.

 
 
 

Club teams/NCAA teams in SE US

Post by Michael Mergen » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Ooohh, looks like you should have done your homework before making the proposal
>to the athletic department.  Fencing isn't top of the list for the athletic
>department, and the fencing community should do all it can to help prepare
>college clubs be prepared to make the move to becoming a team (although I
>really don't see the benefits of being a team, other than maybe some
>additional funding, which is more a coin toss than a guarantee...).  Things
>you and other clubs should have before even hinting on a proposal is a working
>budget, where the opposing teams are, who gets to be on the team, a spiffy
>video on fencing (15 minute video about the training, competition, and
>benefits of the sport) to sell the idea to the athletic department.  They
>really have no clue about what fencing is, so proposing the idea to them
>without a thorough packet of information will only allow them the opportunity
>to file your idea in the garbage can.

>EDEW

If the school in question has a viable club AND a good coach AND fairly high level fencers, then there may be a chance of them going=
 for a team.  The best suggestion would be to propose the establishing of a Women's Team and continuing to have the men in the club =
(doubtless they would practice together and reap the benefits of the arrangement).

The logic behind this suggestion is that under the Title IX decision regarding funding of collegiate sports, schools are required to=
 spend as much money on women's sports as they do for men's sports (hence the rise of women's b-ball, volley ball, etc.).  The probl=
em is that most football programs require so much money, there is a scarcity of women's sports to fund!  This is why we've seen the =
rise in women's fencing at the collegiate level, and the corresponding results internationally.

I would say that this is your best bet at getting your foot in the door.

Good Luck, Veil Gluck, and Bone Chance

Michael Mergens
CLFC