Thanks for the responses.
From the first past WMA seminars I've been to, masks were just used for
a "just in case" safety thing with german longsword waisters, and even
rapier & dagger drills. For the Highland Broadsword, thin sticks,
possibly strips of bamboo, maybe 1/4" thick, not shinnai(?) size,
waisters were used & in the 1 & only lose-play bout so far, it was just
light touches. I've mused about IF masks were used for similar set
drills with quarterstaff, generally done as NO-touch/non-contact but
again "just in case" safety factor, but not actually something that
would probably ever occur.
The Bata/Shillelagh stickfighting maybe. I've yet to bout with this but
have seen videos of it. The steel masks/helmets in the 1st post response
seem to have too wide of gaps between the bars that would let a stick
through, much less a nearly-switch thin broadsword waister, sorry.
I "think" that the side, top & back of head padding were what I was
being told to try to get. Thus, trying to find out if there is a padding
difference between epee & saber masks or if a more padded other. This
would be my first time ever to buy a mask & not sure what a "3 weapon
mask" is but for its being mentioned. Neither sabre nor epee clear visor
masks had any mention of 3-weapon on BlueGauntlet.
Again, it started out like this: I was borrowing masks the last 3 annual
weekend seminars, last year being the first loose bout ever, the not
seeing but a general idea of where the opponent was, became really a
problem in bouting rather than running prearranged drills. I
specifically checked into clear visors in the hopes of at least seeing
the opponent's arm even if fogged up, as opposed to at best, their
general location & even then with normal mesh, loosing where they are
totally sometimes & rarely catching a glimpse of their sword-arm's
From Yahoo groups that I can't access any more now, I was gave the Blue
Gauntlet website & did a search for "Clear". The first person had
advised an epee mask & when I asked the difference of epee & saber or
other brands if a difference, they had advised the epee mask, saying the
ONLY difference was electronic sensing (which off in the woods of our
seminars, is not likely to ever be used. We're on the honor system of
"calling" touches & also with observing judges, no electronics. However,
then another had gave the advice of a 3-weapon mask & maybe as a saber
mask, (seemingly implying more padding on back & top of the head at
least). Next, I e-mailed Blue Gauntlet to ask the difference & the
"electronic touch", lack of paint over saber mask metal was apparently
the only difference. Though they had only 1/2 answered my question in
confirming the 1st advise but not anything about what was a 3-weapon
mask, what padding differences or if other brands of clear visor masks
had other differences of padding.
From what I've noticed of even the bata irish stickfighting bouts, side
of head & top of head hits are the most common, so the actual mask is
almost never a target anyways. Not done full force but apparently at
least trying to use always light contact only.
At the start of Feb, some upgrade to webtv or Yahoo made it where the
login submit button no longer activates & thus can't check any further
responses there to the Cateran society Broadsword group, bata group or
other WMA groups on Yahoo to see if any further response. Thus, I looked
up this group & here I am. :-)
So to sum up all that: 1. what makes a 3 weapon mask a 3 weapon mask. 2.
is it referring to a specific "3 weapons". 3. Is there ANY difference
other than the electronic touching capability (that would not ever be
used in my case) between epee & saber masks, esp the clear visor ones?
4. if other than padding, then what is the padding difference if any,
between epee & saber & from the Blue Gauntlet ones that seem cheapest,
to the other clear visor brands? 5. Surely a clear visor is ok with some
protection at least vs better protection with mesh but near-zero vision
so more likely to run into something, right?
Humm, fixing a clear visor to a steel bar grill mask sounds interesting,
Zebee. Though for now, to have a cheap & ready in time for the next
seminar probably in May, I'd need to still pick a pre-made mask for now.
Maybe someday I can get something created like you suggested.
Thanks again for the help. Pardon that I'm a contemplating shopper
rather than impulse. :-)