What improvements could be made to the mask?

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by chiquita0 » Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:07:30


Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
frusterates you...

Has any company tried to change the basic design?

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Phoenix Nightshad » Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:49:06



Quote:
> Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
> hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask,
> what would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the
> mask frusterates you...

> Has any company tried to change the basic design?

Well you have the wire mesh type mask and then you have one with a clear
panel at the front, the idea being you see your opponent better. An
ideal mask, for me, would be one where you can see clearly out, but the
opponent can't see clearly in. Leon Paul ( british supplier ), has tried
this with a few special masks by putting things like spiderman masks
over it with the eyes slightly lower than in reality. The idea being the
opponent tries looking through the eyes and sees nothing.

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Mark Thompso » Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:54:25

Quote:
> Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
> hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
> would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
> frusterates you...

Lighter, cooler, comfier.

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Joseph Korman » Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:44:11

Quote:

>>Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
>>hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
>>would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
>>frusterates you...

> Lighter, cooler, comfier.

Hard to do and still be protective. What else could you use than a rigid
mesh or plastic cage? Carbon could replace the steel, then you'd have
less of a problem with rusting.
 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Iskande » Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:30:38

What about replacing the elastic on the back of the mask that holds the
mask to your head?

I would love to see something that is easy to adjust and fasten,
instead of an elastic with Velcro to hold things together...

Lighter would indeed be a nice improvement. Carbon sounds good, and is
still an electrical conductor. Titanium could also be an option, but
that would probably make the mask way to expensive...

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Phoenix Nightshad » Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:03:34


Quote:
> What about replacing the elastic on the back of the mask that holds
the
> mask to your head?

> I would love to see something that is easy to adjust and fasten,
> instead of an elastic with Velcro to hold things together...

> Lighter would indeed be a nice improvement. Carbon sounds good, and is
> still an electrical conductor. Titanium could also be an option, but
> that would probably make the mask way to expensive...

The material would still have to give a little. Otherwise the force of
someone lunging at you could break their sword surely? It would be
similar to someone hitting a lump of reinforced concrete with a sledge
hammer - the jarring effect goes right up your arm and in some cases,
can break the handle of the hammer...

I could have sworn I read somewhere that Carbon fibre dies very quickly
when subjected to sunlight.

As far as lighter goes, I prefer what I'm wearing to have a noticable
weight to it. Muscles will increase to compensate soon enough, and in
the meantime, the body also has to increase stamina. That's just a
personal preference.

I agree the Velcro is a bad idea. It gets into long hair, it comes
undone easily, it wears too fast. It's just annoying. The helmet I have
currently has just an elastic strip straight across the back. Ideally,
when you buy the helmet, assuming you have bought the right size, the
elastic is enough to keep it on your head.

Phoenix

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Harold Buc » Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:49:55



Quote:

> I could have sworn I read somewhere that Carbon fibre dies very quickly
> when subjected to sunlight.

I don't think that's it, since they makee bikes and oars and raquets out
of it. But carbon fiber is brittle: it's strong in one direction, but
it's not the best thing in terms of handling impact. You won't catch me
wearing a carbon fiber mask, ever.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
 and party every day.
 Then it was every other day. . . ."
      -Homer J. Simpson

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Joe Hoffma » Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:31:11

Quote:

> Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
> hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
> would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
> frusterates you...

> Has any company tried to change the basic design?

Speaking as someone who usually carries about 25 of the things
in my trunk, I'd like masks that nest, so a duffelbag carries
more than 8 at once.

Joe

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Tim Schofiel » Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:31:41



Quote:

>> Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
>> hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
>> would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
>> frusterates you...
>>  Has any company tried to change the basic design?

>Speaking as someone who usually carries about 25 of the things
>in my trunk, I'd like masks that nest, so a duffelbag carries
>more than 8 at once.

>Joe

Paul's "Contour Fit" already allows masks to nest.  Basically it
replaces the rigid part at the back with elastic straps.  Otherwise it's
a conventional mask.

They're quite popular amongst fencers too- they fit more comfortably.
What time still has to tell is, how long they last.

--
Regards,
Tim S.

 
 
 

What improvements could be made to the mask?

Post by Colin B » Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:31:41

Quote:

> Im studying the history of the sport and it seems that the basic mask
> hasnt changed much over time!  If you could make the perfect mask, what
> would be the improvements?  What about the basic design of the mask
> frusterates you...

On my mask, the lining pulls out for washing. This is a really nice feature,
except that the velcro which holds it in scratches my ears when I put the
mask on.

Really, there's not much wrong with the design of the basic mask. You can
see through it surprisingly well, it's fairly lightweight and comfortable
when worn, and it protects the face. Also, fencing has evolved around the
visibility through the mask, i.e. not being able to clearly see your
opponent's eyes.

The velcro and elastic  band at the back is a pain, but the Leon Paul plastic
braces look very promising.