Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free blades)

Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free blades)

Post by Mark V. Tebaul » Fri, 08 Mar 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
> But by far the most sensible things suggested was to buy
> maraging steel, which acquires negligable rust and in the long run is
> much cheaper than a bunch of regular steel blades.

Really? I can see how they would last longer (if indeed they rust less),
but have held off buying any for myself or the university due to cost. I
have heard that they last longer, but not THAT much longer.
What experience have you had with Maraging steel? I have had none, and am
curious if they are really worth it.

Why would maraging steel not rust as much? Is it still not the same
material simply forged(cooled? i forget) diffrently?

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Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free blades)

Post by Morgan Bur » Fri, 08 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>> But by far the most sensible things suggested was to buy
>> maraging steel, which acquires negligable rust and in the long run is
>> much cheaper than a bunch of regular steel blades.

>Really? I can see how they would last longer (if indeed they rust less),
>but have held off buying any for myself or the university due to cost. I
>have heard that they last longer, but not THAT much longer.
>What experience have you had with Maraging steel? I have had none, and am
>curious if they are really worth it.
>Why would maraging steel not rust as much? Is it still not the same
>material simply forged(cooled? i forget) diffrently?

It is an alloy that doesn't rust, like stainless steel.  I leave
my blades in with sweaty clothes and assorted bacterial cultures,
and never get a spot of rust.  Sometimes I get careless, though, and
treat my non-Maraging epee blades the same way, which leaves rust
stains all over everything.  I just tell people it's ***.

Personally, I get 5-10 times the lifespan of a regular steel blade
(which translates to about 2 years of practice and competition for
me), for 2-3 times the cost.

They are becoming flimsier nowadays, and I've had some recent maraging
blades that died after a year or so.  Mind you, the FIE stamps on
those blades were mutilated, so they were probably fakes or a bad
batch.  Anyway, they still outperformed the conventional blades that I
used to use.  On the other hand, the first maraging blade I ever
bought was a crowbar, and is still in commission, after 5 or 6 years.
It wasn't great to fence with, but that batch of blades would have
been the perfect investment for a club armoury.

For the record, I normally buy Allstar blades.  That old crowbar was
a France Lames.

-- Morgan Burke


 
 
 

Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free blades)

Post by Stephan Khin » Sat, 09 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Readers may be interested in some recent FIE data comparing Maraging blades
with ordinary steel blades.
(Let me stress that the data available to me are incomplete.)  The FIE
gives certification to blades after destructive testing -- basically
smashing them into a wall repeatedly until they break. Maraging epee blades
last between 50% longer and three times as long as non-Maraging -- over
20,000 repetitions.  Maraging foil blades do even better.  

The best performance on the epee tests that I saw was the Russian FIE
Lammet blade; second was Blaise (French). Both lasted more than twice as
long as any of the non-Maraging blades.  

Among the foil blades, by far the best was the premium Lammet (Russian),
followed at a distance by the Russian Vniti, the Blaise Blue, the standard
Blaise, and the non-premium Lammet.

Of course these blades vary in flex, weight, balance, etc. Durability isn't
the only consideration.  
--  
Stephan Khinoy
College of Staten Island

On Mar 07, 1996 10:20:24 in article <Re: Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free

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>Hi!

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>>> But by far the most sensible things suggested was to buy  
>>> maraging steel, which acquires negligable rust and in the long run is  
>>> much cheaper than a bunch of regular steel blades.


 
 
 

Maraging steel? (Was Re: rust-free blades)

Post by Orde » Tue, 12 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Readers may be interested in some recent FIE data comparing Maraging blades
> with ordinary steel blades.
> (Let me stress that the data available to me are incomplete.)

> Stephan Khinoy
> College of Staten Island

Does the data include which makes were tested? You only mention the best,
it would be nice to see where my blades appeared, if at all.

     Orde