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Post by clat.. » Thu, 28 Sep 1995 04:00:00


For all sabre people out there, I just recieved the depressing news that there
are only 21 women rigistered for the KC circut event this weekend!  What's up
with this?  Where are you beautiful 80+ women that were at nationals?  If we
are going to get international and establish ourselves, we have to be able to
make it on the national level first.  If it is ever a matter of hotel space
please contact me and we will try to find a place for you to stay.  Just come
dammit!!!  Also, can anyone give me a reason why the Penn State Open has under
20 womens sabre but not for us slightly more mature gals?  I guess why doesn't
matter as much as how can we change it???

Thanks, Chris in KC

 
 
 

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Post by George Edward Kolombatovic » Sat, 30 Sep 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> For all sabre people out there, I just recieved the depressing news that there
> are only 21 women rigistered for the KC circut event this weekend!  What's up
> with this?  Where are you beautiful 80+ women that were at nationals?  If we
> are going to get international and establish ourselves, we have to be able to
> make it on the national level first.  If it is ever a matter of hotel space
> please contact me and we will try to find a place for you to stay.  Just come
> dammit!!!  Also, can anyone give me a reason why the Penn State Open has under
> 20 womens sabre but not for us slightly more mature gals?  I guess why doesn't
> matter as much as how can we change it???

There is clearly a missunderstanding here regarding the North American
Cup tournament at Penn State.  It is NOT an "Open."  It is only for those
under 20 and that is why there is nothing for the "slightly more mature"
women.

George Kolombatovich -- sending this from my hotel room at the Open NAC
in Kansas City

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Post by George Edward Kolombatovic » Sun, 01 Oct 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> Anyway, I would point out that women epee is getting more of the
> proverbial "shaft" than women's sabre, since they only get 3 Open NACs
> this season, whereas women's sabre gets a full compliment of 4.

This is the kind of comment that is realy annoying to those of us who are
trying to have good national tournaments.  The reason that Women's Epee
"only" has three Open NAC's is because the National Coach for Women's
Epee stated that only three were wanted.  This is due, I believe,
primarily to the fact that there are so very many World Cups in Women's
Epee.  No one is getting shafted here.

Why is it so often the case where it is assumed that there is a negative
aspect to the reasoning for any decision?  Come on!  Most of us are
trying very hard to assist everyone -- equally!!!!!

George Kolombatovich

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Post by Richard B. Johns » Wed, 04 Oct 1995 04:00:00


: This is the kind of comment that is realy annoying to those of us who are
: trying to have good national tournaments.  The reason that Women's Epee
: "only" has three Open NAC's is because the National Coach for Women's
: Epee stated that only three were wanted.  This is due, I believe,
: primarily to the fact that there are so very many World Cups in Women's
: Epee.  No one is getting shafted here.

: George Kolombatovich

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The National coach requested only 3 huh.  I can't help but wonder if the
majority of the women epeeists in the country agree with him/her.  World
Cup events in Europe are a bit out of the range of many people...

Stuart Johnson
GSU Fencing Club

 
 
 

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Post by George Edward Kolombatovic » Thu, 05 Oct 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

> : This is the kind of comment that is realy annoying to those of us who are
> : trying to have good national tournaments.  The reason that Women's Epee
> : "only" has three Open NAC's is because the National Coach for Women's
> : Epee stated that only three were wanted.  This is due, I believe,
> : primarily to the fact that there are so very many World Cups in Women's
> : Epee.  No one is getting shafted here.
> The National coach requested only 3 huh.  I can't help but wonder if the
> majority of the women epeeists in the country agree with him/her.  World
> Cup events in Europe are a bit out of the range of many people...

Huh?  Yes the National Coach only wanted three Open NAC's.  And there is a
communication link available to fencers.  Each Olympic weapon has two
Athletes Representatives as well as the National Coach and all of their
names and address are published in the National Newsletter and/or American
Fencing; every member of the USFA has received this information.  As far
as I know, no complaints have been received about the schedule.

If people want more than three, contact the Athletes Representatives and
the National Coach.  Anyone who "can't help but wonder if the majority of
the women epeeists in the country agree with him" can certainly stop
wondering and do something positive -- find out.

George

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Post by Andrew J Bullock I » Sat, 07 Oct 1995 04:00:00


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>: This is the kind of comment that is realy annoying to those of us who are
>: trying to have good national tournaments.  The reason that Women's Epee
>: "only" has three Open NAC's is because the National Coach for Women's
>: Epee stated that only three were wanted.  This is due, I believe,
>: primarily to the fact that there are so very many World Cups in Women's
>: Epee.  No one is getting shafted here.

>: George Kolombatovich

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>The National coach requested only 3 huh.  I can't help but wonder if the
>majority of the women epeeists in the country agree with him/her.
> World Cup events in Europe are a bit out of the range of many people...

>Stuart Johnson
>GSU Fencing Club

The last sentence in the previous message actually underscores George's
point - and the reason for the smaller number of events.

If one understands the reason for the NAC events, and one put oneself in
the place of a fencer who is trying to make the Olympic team, one would
probably thank the National Team coach for the decision!

The NAC events give all fencers an opportunity to fence against the 'rest
of the best' as it were, that is true, but it's not the purpose of
primary importance.  The USFA needs a way to select the National [Olympic
this year] Team, in as impartial a manner as possible.  Team selection
criteria are published before the beginning of the season every year.  
Everybody knows they have to go to the NAC events, and/or World Cup
events etc. to make the team.  No one has unlimited financial resources,
at least not in my experience [I'm still looking for a 'Sugar Mommy'
myself - hard to find, though - it's my personality :)  {Kidding, in case
that wasn't obvious - the 'Sugar Mommy' part - it IS my personality}].

If you know you have to have one of the top three [4, or 5 for whichever
year you reference] point totals to make the team, and you can't afford
to make all of the events, you're hosed if you're capable of making the
team - someone who CAN afford all events could pass your total.  If you
aren't capable of making the team [as in my case], it doesn't matter how
many events there are.  Myself, I pick and choose.

In addition, I'm sure the National Team members are training to 'peak' at
certain times in the year.  Maintaining a training regimen to peak every
three weeks or less has to be incredibly tough, if not impossible.
[Comments from the exercise physiologists in the group are welcome].

These are some of the reasons regional events have been held in the
Northeast for a while, including Scholastic [H.S.]for the past two
years.  We're giving the junior and younger fencers in the area strong
competition that's affordable [driving, maybe one hotel room].  They are
able to practice with others they may not normally see, get more quality
bouts [competition experience] without having to train to peak, and not
cut themselves off from National events.

Andrew Bullock