On 12-14-94 MORGAN BURKE wrote about Re: Tournament Format
MB>In Canada, fencers are ranked on a point system, in which points
MB>are earned in every tournament. The more opponents you beat and
MB>the more tournaments you enter, the more points you get, so it
MB>isn't necessarily a good indicator of skill (classification is better
MB>but coarser), but rather of participation in large tournaments.
MB>Still, it is acceptable for ranking fencers within a given class.
So, from my understanding of this, in Canada, there are both a oclasso
rating and a points rating? And fencers within each class are rated
against each other on points?
In the USFA presently there are of course our letter classification and
national point systems. George Masin has proposed a changing the letter
classification system to a points based system that would work by using
the results of a tournament and modifying the competitors points similar
to the method done in chess. Some of us locally have discussed this
system and do not favor it because it would discourage some of our top
fencers out here from participating in local tournaments where they
would have to balance the little if any they could gain, against the
possibility of losing points.
I favor a system similar to those I seen used in European countries,
(Austria, Germany, Netherlands...) where each result is worth a certain
number of points, determined by your finishing position and the strength
of the field, and your best n results (where n is a number 5 -11) during
the past year to date determine your points rating. This sort of method
encourages fencers to participate in as many tournaments as possible, to
hope to get a result which surpasses one of you other top n results.
One difficulty of this, or even the Masin system, is the rating of each
fencer would (or could) change with each tournament, requiring fencers
to be updated right at the tournaments to avoid lag time between a
tournament one weekend and a tournament the next. The national office
would have to be continually updated with the full results and
subsequent changes in rating for every tournament across the nation, an
increase in services that they might not be able to handle.
I believe that most of the European nations have a passport-type
membership identification with pages to list the results of every
tournament competed in. I very interested to here from those outside of
the US to confirm or deny my understanding and expand upon any
advantages and challenges that their system creates.
I donAt think that our letter rating system is horrible, but one very
lucky result can create a fencer who starts helping a whole area
increase in rating. Also, it seems strange to have a sytem which is
based on your single best result in the past four years.
] Eric Speicher 12/19/94
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