>At my club today, we had an interesting discussion about the rules about
>One person was essentially fleching, but he claimed that--because his
>touches were landing before his feet crossed--he wasn't crossing over
>while the bout was in progress.
No, he can't get away with that.
>I argued that he was committing to an action which required the crossing
>of the feet in order to score, so his actions were certainly in violation
>of the spirit of the rules and probably in violation of the letter of the
The fleche, and the crossover advance are prohibited. Of course, you _can_
do them while the bout is not in progress, but the bout is still in
progress unless at least fencing tempo separates the action which scores
from the violation.
Suppose one fencer attacks slowly, and his opponent counterattacks and
hits before the original attack arrives. Is the original attack annulled
because it arrives "while the bout is not in progress"? Not at all! The
original attack (and the bout) are still in progress. So it is clear that
the fact that a hit arrives does not immunize a fencer from all subsequent
> The same question arose about off balance lunges that end with the
> crossing of the feet after the touch.
It depends on how much longer after the touch the feet cross. Basically,
if the lunge is held long enough after the Halt, then it isn't important
how you recover from it. But if the feet cross because the fencer cannot
keep his balance otherwise, the yellow card is certainly on the way.
> Lastly, it was my impression that the rules do not prohibit backward
> crossovers. Does anyone know for certain?
Backward crossovers are OK. The rule prohibits crossing one foot from in
back of the other to in front of it. Backwards is fine. Just make sure
that if you crossover retreat, and then change your mind, you don't
"uncross" your feet, which _would_ violate the rule.
P. S. I can understand why the fencer in your club would like to be able
to fleche, etc., but that is not going to work. As long as the rule
stands, it has to be observed, no matter how stupid it is.