A soft court

A soft court

Post by Scott T. Jense » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:15:52


Besides having sand or wading water, what's another way to have a soft
court?  Sand gives but not a lot.  Water nicely cushions but requires a
wading pool.

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A soft court

Post by Todd Haverko » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:20:51


Quote:
> Besides having sand or wading water, what's another way to have a soft
> court?  Sand gives but not a lot.  

Sand may be your best bet though...

Quote:
> Water nicely cushions but requires a wading pool.

Yes, a waist-deep one.    

At American Sports Center (formerly Spikes, formerly Stars and Spikes)
in Crystal Lake, IL, they have a turf-like surface on which they play
indoor grass volleyball.  Kinda interesting and perhaps the sort of
thing you might be looking for.  But then again, that's special
equipment as well.

What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

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A soft court

Post by Scott T. Jense » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:38:40

Quote:

> What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

The tavern owner where my league plays is looking on putting in a new
volleyball court.  Right now, the idea is a knee-high wading pool.  He
already has sand courts.  He's just looking for something to make his place
stand out from all the rest and players (mainly women, he says) have asked
about him having something softer than sand.

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A soft court

Post by Todd Haverko » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:44:12


Quote:

> > What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

> The tavern owner where my league plays is looking on putting in a new
> volleyball court.  Right now, the idea is a knee-high wading pool.

Oh my.   Have they asked their insurance company or attourneys about
this idea?  

***, volleyball and a kneed high wading pool for people to fall
down in do not sound like an advisable combination.

Quote:
> He already has sand courts.  He's just looking for something to make
> his place stand out from all the rest and players (mainly women, he
> says) have asked about him having something softer than sand.

A few points worth considering...

Sand comes in dizzying array of grades.  Good sand is not hard.  At
all.  If you fall in it running and you skin a knee or get any sort of
abrasion or feel skin pain, you're playing in bad sand.  

Is it possible his existing sand courts are perceived as hard because
the sand is either of a poor (coarse, construction/fill) grade, or was
not double washed and the dirt in it is causing it to pack and be
hard?

If fixing the sand courts is not an option, then perhaps this indoor
soft grass-like turf is worth exploring.  At the sport center I
mentioned, they play soccer on it, human bungee football (funny funny
stuff--kids in little harnesses suspended from the ceiling on stretch
cords playing soccer), and grass volleyball.

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A soft court

Post by Bill Castill » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:58:03

Wait a minute, I want to hear more about this human bungee football.
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Quote:


> > > What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

> > The tavern owner where my league plays is looking on putting in a new
> > volleyball court.  Right now, the idea is a knee-high wading pool.

> Oh my.   Have they asked their insurance company or attourneys about
> this idea?

> ***, volleyball and a kneed high wading pool for people to fall
> down in do not sound like an advisable combination.

> > He already has sand courts.  He's just looking for something to make
> > his place stand out from all the rest and players (mainly women, he
> > says) have asked about him having something softer than sand.

> A few points worth considering...

> Sand comes in dizzying array of grades.  Good sand is not hard.  At
> all.  If you fall in it running and you skin a knee or get any sort of
> abrasion or feel skin pain, you're playing in bad sand.

> Is it possible his existing sand courts are perceived as hard because
> the sand is either of a poor (coarse, construction/fill) grade, or was
> not double washed and the dirt in it is causing it to pack and be
> hard?

> If fixing the sand courts is not an option, then perhaps this indoor
> soft grass-like turf is worth exploring.  At the sport center I
> mentioned, they play soccer on it, human bungee football (funny funny
> stuff--kids in little harnesses suspended from the ceiling on stretch
> cords playing soccer), and grass volleyball.

> Best Regards,
> --

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A soft court

Post by Scott T. Jense » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:27:19

Quote:


> > He already has sand courts.  He's just looking for
> > something to make his place stand out from all the
> > rest and players (mainly women, he says) have
> > asked about him having something softer than sand.

> A few points worth considering...

> Sand comes in dizzying array of grades.  Good sand
> is not hard.  At all.  If you fall in it running and you skin
> a knee or get any sort of abrasion or feel skin pain,
> you're playing in bad sand.

> Is it possible his existing sand courts are perceived as
> hard because the sand is either of a poor (coarse,
> construction/fill) grade, or was not double washed and
> the dirt in it is causing it to pack and be hard?

I'll ask him, but I would assume (knowing him) that he just ordered sand
from a local quarry and didn't ask for any special kind of sand.  Is there a
special name and/or way of ordering for the best sand?

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A soft court

Post by FC » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:09:40

Recently I visit a local elementary school, there is this recycled
shredded tire in the play yard. It gave the soft bouncy sensation when
walked on. But I don't know if you can walk on it bare footed.

Another one I read it a while back in the newspaper a guy had this
looked like a walleyball court on a ***oline in his backyard which his
neighbor complained about. It'll make a pretty interesting game but that
will NOT be the volleyball as we know.

FC

Quote:


>>What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

> The tavern owner where my league plays is looking on putting in a new
> volleyball court.  Right now, the idea is a knee-high wading pool.  He
> already has sand courts.  He's just looking for something to make his place
> stand out from all the rest and players (mainly women, he says) have asked
> about him having something softer than sand.

> Scott Jensen
> --
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A soft court

Post by Todd Haverko » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:56:04

Quote:

> Recently I visit a local elementary school, there is this recycled
> shredded tire in the play yard. It gave the soft bouncy sensation when
> walked on. But I don't know if you can walk on it bare footed.

> Another one I read it a while back in the newspaper a guy had this
> looked like a walleyball court on a ***oline in his backyard which
> his neighbor complained about. It'll make a pretty interesting game
> but that will NOT be the volleyball as we know.

Whoa--now that'd be pretty wild.   Isn't there a basketball game of
sorts that uses ***olines?   I have vague recollections of something
like that on ESPN2 getting a lot of press last year.

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A soft court

Post by Bub » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:42:23

Quote:

> When you talk to the tavern owner, be sure to get that knee-high
> wading pool idea out of his head.  His tavern-goers would go from
> being scraped up and dirty from the current construction sand to
> having torn MCL's, ACL's, sprained ankles, and (if the bottom of the
> pool would be hard) bruised tailbones, cracking their body on the hard
> pool bottom, doing god knows what at the borders of the court not to
> mention the inconvenience of being soaking wet after every game. :-0
> Even all that aside, I bet the folks who complained about the current
> sand hurting them will then complain about how hard the *** ball is
> that they'd have to play with in the water.

Wait a minuet, I was invisioning women playing volleyball in a knee high
pool of jello!

I played on a concreat slab with about 8-10 inches of sand on it when I was
in Hawaii.  OUCH!

Bub
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A soft court

Post by Bill Shatze » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:28:46


Quote:
> Whoa--now that'd be pretty wild.   Isn't there a basketball game of
> sorts that uses ***olines?   I have vague recollections of something
> like that on ESPN2 getting a lot of press last year.

Ouch!  I'd not have believed it!

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A soft court

Post by Todd Haverko » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:33:22

Quote:


> > Whoa--now that'd be pretty wild.   Isn't there a basketball game of
> > sorts that uses ***olines?   I have vague recollections of something
> > like that on ESPN2 getting a lot of press last year.

> Ouch!  I'd not have believed it!

> slate.msn.com/id/2070833/

Oui.   Pretty crazy stuff.  :-)  

Quote:
> C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le sport.

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A soft court

Post by y_p_ » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:39:18


Quote:
> Besides having sand or wading water, what's another way to have a soft
> court?  Sand gives but not a lot.  Water nicely cushions but requires a
> wading pool.

> Scott Jensen

Well - there are some ***oline-like hardwood floors that have a layered
set of support beams rather than rigid.  The aim is to let the floor give a
bit.

My high school (El Cerrito High School) had such a floor.  The one RSV
regulars might be more familiar with is the springy floor at Stanford's
Maples Pavilion.  They've had problems with the student section jumping
up and down in unison in order to disrupt opposing basketball free-throw
shooters; officials have tried to stop it because of the nature of the
floor (i.e. warning and possibly a technical foul if not stopped).

There was an article in last Sunday's San Jose Mercury News about the
floor at Maples possibly increasing the risk of injury.  Their men's
basketball team has had a disproportionate amount of stress-injuries
over the past decade.

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A soft court

Post by Bill A-Usene » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:23:35


Quote:


> > What are you looking to do, and for what purpose?

> The tavern owner where my league plays is looking on putting in a new
> volleyball court.  Right now, the idea is a knee-high wading pool.  He
> already has sand courts.  He's just looking for something to make his
> place
> stand out from all the rest and players (mainly women, he says) have
> asked
> about him having something softer than sand.

Knee deep????  That's nuts.  It's not going to cushion you at all if you
drop to your knees....so it will be harder than a gym floor.  It needs
to be about a metre (3 feet) deep.  But water volleyball sucks if you
like volleyball.... Everything is overhand.... You can't move quickly
enough to get to a ball.... You get sprayed in the face with water every
time you hit the ball....There aren't any lines.... And you get soaked...

Getting soaked isn't a problem in some circumstances, but at a
tavern....?

Bill.

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A soft court

Post by Michael Bor » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:00:57

Quote:

>Getting soaked isn't a problem in some circumstances, but at a
>tavern....?

Ever heard of wet t-shirt contests, bet the tavern owner has LOL

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