New CC Super Air's - long

New CC Super Air's - long

Post by Fera » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:32:08


Had the chance to check out a new Team edition Super Air this weekend
while ordering my new Air. Beautiful boat !! I have a 2001 Air and saw
many little quality improvements that add up to a big difference over
previous years. Ballast system - vent valves have been completely
eliminated, additional pumps added and plumbing changes. System now
fills and empties by pressing the associated button on the dash. The
venting system was a real problem and is now gone forever. Dash -
nothing pissed me off more than to have the center plug on the cheap
steering wheel fall off all the time on a 40k boat. All 2002's come
with a much nicer steering wheel with a nicely finished center bezel
that matches the dash. Thru-hull fitting are no longer plastic.  Not
sure if they're bronze or stainless, but they look better and won't
crack. Rear storage locking mechanism's have been replaced and now
work with the keyless starter system.  When the ignition is unlocked
so is the storage.  The super air has a release button on the transom
and both sides of the rear***pit. This is particularly welcome on
the Sport & Air where the 2001's had a real bad setup. Interior Vinyl
layout has been redesigned and looks like they are spending more time
putting it together. Not a stitch out of place. Can't say the same
about my 2001. Bilge / ignition switch is relocated to the side
console, no more crawling under the dash. While many of these changes
are not revolutionary, the overall quality inprovements & fit and
finish improvements gave me sense that CC won't be losing money on
their new 5 year warranty.
 
 
 

New CC Super Air's - long

Post by Sail2127 » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:54:48

You missed the biggest improvement! They lowered the floor several inches which
takes away some of the feeling of sitting on the boat rather then in the boat.
Drivers leg room was also better! George

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Jackso » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 04:22:30


Quote:
>previous years. Ballast system - vent valves have been completely
>eliminated, additional pumps added and plumbing changes. System now
>fills and empties by pressing the associated button on the dash. The

I have wondered why they couldn't create an electric valve that you
could control from the dash.  As it is now, to change the position of
the ballast valves,  (open or closed), you have to make everyone get
up out of their seats, raise the seats and reach in to open or close
the valves.  I suppose there's an engineering reasoning why this can't
be done.  Or maybe it's only me that wants to fill the ballast
half-way after a half day of wakeboarding.  <g>

Quote:
>work with the keyless starter system.  When the ignition is unlocked
>so is the storage.  The super air has a release button on the transom
>and both sides of the rear***pit. This is particularly welcome on

You can get in the storage by lifting up the seat even if the ignition
is locked unless you lock the seats down using your trusty key.  Nice
set up, agreed.  Keeps a big area of the boat locked down.  Too bad
the Kicker amp isn't in a secure place.  You can't lock down the
forward (observers) seat, which is where the amp resides.  I suppose
if they were going to take that, they'd have enough time to make off
with the whole boat.

Kind regards,
Dave Jackson
Naples, FL

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Rut » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:02:36

...

Quote:
>I have wondered why they couldn't create an electric valve that you
>could control from the dash.  ..

Those things already exist  But they cost money compared to
manual.

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Joe Hiestan » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:26:00

Quote:

>You missed the biggest improvement! They lowered the floor several inches which
>takes away some of the feeling of sitting on the boat rather then in the boat.
>Drivers leg room was also better! George

I definitely agree with the second comment, but personally I prefer the
feeling of lower gunwhales and a more open feeling to a ski boat. Call
me traditional (or even a goof!), but I associate higher gunwhales and
the feeling of being "in" the boat more with recreational,
multipurpose-type boats. As Tom would say, YMMV! =)

-Joe

 
 
 

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Post by Joe Hiestan » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:25:47

Quote:

>You missed the biggest improvement! They lowered the floor several inches which
>takes away some of the feeling of sitting on the boat rather then in the boat.
>Drivers leg room was also better! George

I definitely agree with the second comment, but personally I prefer the
feeling of lower gunwhales and a more open feeling to a ski boat. Call
me traditional (or even a goof!), but I associate higher gunwhales and
the feeling of being "in" the boat more with recreational,
multipurpose-type boats. As Tom would say, YMMV! =)

-Joe

 
 
 

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Post by Joe Hiestan » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:27:49

Quote:

>You missed the biggest improvement! They lowered the floor several inches which
>takes away some of the feeling of sitting on the boat rather then in the boat.
>Drivers leg room was also better! George

I definitely agree with the second comment, but personally I prefer the
feeling of lower gunwhales and a more open feeling to a ski boat. Call
me traditional (or even a goof!), but I associate higher gunwhales and
the feeling of being "in" the boat more with recreational,
multipurpose-type boats. As Tom would say, YMMV! =)

-Joe

 
 
 

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Post by Joe Hiestan » Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:31:19

Sorry for multiple msgs. Apparently my reader is acting up!
 
 
 

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Post by Dave Jackso » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:52:52



Quote:
>>I have wondered why they couldn't create an electric valve that you
>>could control from the dash.  ..

>Those things already exist  But they cost money compared to
>manual.

Do you really think that's why they left them off?  I'm not convinced.
Are all wakeboard boat ballast valves manual?

Sincerely,
Dave Jackson
Naples, FL

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Rut » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:13:46

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Quote:
>Do you really think that's why they left them off?

Cost and lack of design  knowledge.  Remotely actuated
valves are so common in my industry.  And there they deal
with much more difficult stuff and conditions.

Quote:
> I'm not convinced.

Mr. Snook??

Quote:
>Are all wakeboard boat ballast valves manual?

No idea...  Don't some mfgs. advertized "flip a switch and
fill/drain"?

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Jackso » Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:51:25



Quote:
>>Are all wakeboard boat ballast valves manual?
>No idea...  Don't some mfgs. advertized "flip a switch and
>fill/drain"?

Well, yeah, ours (Super Air Team) does that - but when you turn it off
the ballast tanks fill just by the boat moving forward.  I want it
where I can say - okay 3/4 and we'll shut it off... or, sure you can
sit on that side of the boat - let me trim the wake by tweaking the
ballast tank a bit.  Can't be rocket science.

Sincerely,
Dave Jackson
Naples, FL

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Rut » Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:19:01

...

Quote:
>Well, yeah, ours (Super Air Team) does that - but when you turn it off
>the ballast tanks fill just by the boat moving forward.  I want it
>where I can say - okay 3/4 and we'll shut it off... or, sure you can
>sit on that side of the boat - let me trim the wake by tweaking the
>ballast tank a bit.  Can't be rocket science.

Are there check valves in -line?
Tom
 
 
 

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Post by Dave Jackso » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:48:20



Quote:
>>sit on that side of the boat - let me trim the wake by tweaking the
>>ballast tank a bit.  Can't be rocket science.

>Are there check valves in -line?

Must not be... the tanks will fill right up if left open.

Rgds,
Dave Jackson
Naples

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Rut » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:58:26

...

Quote:
>>Are there check valves in -line?

>Must not be... the tanks will fill right up if left open.

I've never checked the plumbing closely, but that sounds
odd.  What if your boat sits overnight with the tanks empty.
Do the tanks fill?

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Jackso » Fri, 28 Dec 2001 03:56:59



Quote:
>I've never checked the plumbing closely, but that sounds
>odd.  What if your boat sits overnight with the tanks empty.
>Do the tanks fill?

That I don't know - we don't leave it in, but I suppose it would come
up to the waterline.

Kind regards,
Dave
Naples, FL