New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by Mark Leno » Sat, 07 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Does anybody know why Correct Craft has started using rudder ports that
do not have grease fittings on them?

Is this an EPA thing?

Do any other manufacturers still use rudder ports with zerc fittings on
them?

I used to grease them every 100 or so hours to keep the mechanism
working freely, but when I went to do that last summer on my '97 SN
(after it started binding up), I found out that there is no longer a
grease fitting.  This winter I pulled the entire mechanism down for
inspection, greased it up and put it back together, so I should be fine
for most of next summer, but it seems like an awful lot of messing
around for something that should be a very simple regular maintenance
task.

I would at least like to hear the theory of why we shouldn't need to
grease them anymore.

Mark Lenox

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by jstant » Sat, 07 Feb 1998 04:00:00

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Me too. Mine is binding a little. Perhaps Bill Snook can answer this
if he is listening?

Mark, did you have to remove the gas tank to regrease or not?

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by Mark Leno » Sun, 08 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Mark, did you have to remove the gas tank to regrease or not?

No, you don't have to remove the gas tank, but you do have to remove the
rear center section of the floor.  If you unpin the motorbox hinges and
prop the rear of the motorbox up, you can just lift out the floor.

Mark

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by TJSSKI » Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Does anybody know why Correct Craft has started using rudder ports that
do

Quote:
>not have grease fittings on them?

Is this an EPA thing?

Mark,
Yes it is an "EPA thing".  The manufacture could get into trouble for grease in
the water.  That dosen't mean you can't put your own zert fitting in.  Its a 45
min job.  I suggest putting a zert with an 18 inch *** hose so you can give
it a squirt anytime without removing the seat or floor.  Remove the rudder,
drill a hole to the zert's thread size in the rudder port, run a tap through
it.... and***it in.  Make sure you reinstall the saftey wire on the rudder
bolts!

Good luck, and may your rudder always turn smoothly!


 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by Kevin R Baug » Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Hmmm has Correct Craft ever had zert fittings?

MasterCraft must have that special zert exemption from  the EPA, because
they have always had zert fittings through out there steering system

Kevin R Baugh

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Quote:
>Mark,
>Yes it is an "EPA thing".  The manufacture could get into trouble for
grease in
>the water.

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by jstant » Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:00:00

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Quote:

>Does anybody know why Correct Craft has started using rudder ports that
>do
>>not have grease fittings on them?

>Is this an EPA thing?

>Mark,
>Yes it is an "EPA thing".  The manufacture could get into trouble for grease in
>the water.  That dosen't mean you can't put your own zert fitting in.  Its a 45
>min job.  I suggest putting a zert with an 18 inch *** hose so you can give
>it a squirt anytime without removing the seat or floor.  Remove the rudder,
>drill a hole to the zert's thread size in the rudder port, run a tap through
>it.... and***it in.  Make sure you reinstall the saftey wire on the rudder
>bolts!

>Good luck, and may your rudder always turn smoothly!



Thanks, I was just going to ask if one to drill and tap to add one.
 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by EFW54 » Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> because
>they have always had zert fittings through out there steering system

Well the 78MC that we put one on must have slipped through then.
 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by Andy Men » Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:00:00

I thought I had already sent a reply, but must have goofed.

Sounds like a new way for dealers to make money servicing steering.

My recommendation, especially if you have to pull the tank, is to have a
fitting installed so you can grease it next time.  Someone even makes a nice
little extender so you can grease it from the engine compartment instead of
lifting floorboards, seats, etc.  I can't find where I saw it, but am
looking if anyone knows.  Most likely, the binding is coming not in the port
itself, but at the end of the steering cable.  There may be a fitting there
even if there isn't one on the port itself.  It may also be binding at the
steering head, either in the head itself, or at the cable end.  Depending on
the type, you may be able to service it, but probably not.  If they are
using a greasless rudder port, they probably have a non-servicable steering
head that has to be repleaced instead of greased.  My 89 MasterCraft came
that way, and I changed out the whole thing with a Teleflex setup that
required modifications, but is superior to the original.  I haven't kept up
with what is coming in new boats, so best wishes.

My final thought is that if you have to do a lot to service something, spend
a little more up front to make it easier the next time.  Sooner or later you
get a boat that is easy to work on.  (Then you trade it in on a new one.)
:)

Andy

Quote:

>Does anybody know why Correct Craft has started using rudder ports that
>do not have grease fittings on them?

>Is this an EPA thing?

>Do any other manufacturers still use rudder ports with zerc fittings on
>them?

>I used to grease them every 100 or so hours to keep the mechanism
>working freely, but when I went to do that last summer on my '97 SN
>(after it started binding up), I found out that there is no longer a
>grease fitting.  This winter I pulled the entire mechanism down for
>inspection, greased it up and put it back together, so I should be fine
>for most of next summer, but it seems like an awful lot of messing
>around for something that should be a very simple regular maintenance
>task.

>I would at least like to hear the theory of why we shouldn't need to
>grease them anymore.

>Mark Lenox

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by KENGIBBO » Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Remove the rudder,
>drill a hole to the zert's thread size in the rudder port, run a tap through
>it.... and***it in.

If the rudder shaft fits precisely in the rudder port, will the grease squeeze
through the added fitting into the precision (hopefully) clearance?  

When I yanked the rudder out of my MC to polish it, I noticed the port had a
flute machined in it to transport and spread the grease evenly along the shaft.

 
 
 

New rudder ports have no grease fittings!

Post by DBurto » Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Mine has a grease fitting that injects grease between 2 seals, but not to the lower
part where
it's really needed.  I added a fitting to that portion and it is difficult to pump
grease through
with no flutes cut.  I have someone wiggle the rudder back and forth while I pump
grease
and eventually it comes through.  Flutes would be nice, probably would retain
grease better
also.

DB

Quote:


> >Remove the rudder,
> >drill a hole to the zert's thread size in the rudder port, run a tap through
> >it.... and***it in.

> If the rudder shaft fits precisely in the rudder port, will the grease squeeze
> through the added fitting into the precision (hopefully) clearance?

> When I yanked the rudder out of my MC to polish it, I noticed the port had a
> flute machined in it to transport and spread the grease evenly along the shaft.