Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Broc » Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:00:00


I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
this.

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Bill Walk » Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
>pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
>this.

I would think there would be problems with stability, i.e., the
skier/boarder would be able to lean the PWC, or perhaps pull it all the
way over.
----------------------------------------------
Bill Walker, QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA USA


 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Mrya » Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
> pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
> this.

It aint gonna happen, not enough demand.  I've thought about it but the
harness that hooks to the front of the PWC would be in the way of the
drivers head.  I don't think it would tip over though, since the boat
would be going 20 mph.

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by GoBi » Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:00:00

speaking of Pylon Extensions, we just updated and made some major
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out and if you can help us fill in any blanks, that'd be great!

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Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by GORDON JENS » Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:00:00

I returned from a trip to Tokyo today and took the limousine bus from
Hakozaki TCAT (Tokyo City Air Terminal) to Narita.  About 10-15 minutes
out, the bus went over a bridge, and there in the middle of the river
was a course and jump.  In the past, the closest course to Tokyo was a
good 1.5 hrs away at Kawaguchi-ko (and boat traffic on this lake makes
the course unskiable after about 9am).

Does anyone know about this site, who runs it, who I can get in touch
with, etc.?  I go there quite a bit and would love to hook up with
someone there (especially during the middle of the season).

(email is appreciated as I don't get to this site much lately).

Gordon


 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by TJSSKI » Mon, 23 Sep 1996 04:00:00

You have got to be kidding!  The first time the wakeboarder made a
hard cut the PWC would flip over.  That is why many boat builders
don't recomend them on full size boats...and boats are more stable
than a PWC.  You don't have to take even high school physics to
figure this one out!

TJSSKIER/Tim  

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by GORDON JENS » Mon, 23 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Does anyone know if there is currently a slalom course 'available' at
Shasta?  I have occationally used Syderhouse's in the past (with his
permission).  But since he doesn't have his school there now, I'm
wondering if there is anything else.  We'll be there next weekend
9/27-29) for a family reunion.  My 11 year old son has an important
tournament the following weekend and we were hoping he can get some
course practice in while we are up there.

Thanks in advance.

Gordon


 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Steve Robert » Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
> > pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
> > this.

> It aint gonna happen, not enough demand.  I've thought about it but the
> harness that hooks to the front of the PWC would be in the way of the
> drivers head.  I don't think it would tip over though, since the boat
> would be going 20 mph.

What does speed have to do with it? This is all about leverage. If the
pylon where high enough it would probably flip the jet ski just pulling
the wakeboarder out of the water. In any case any once the boarder gets
out to the side and makes any pull at all, the jet ski will roll over.
Just look how far you can pull around a jet ski with the toe eye low to
the water.

-steve-

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Mrya » Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



> > > I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
> > > pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
> > > this.

> > It aint gonna happen, not enough demand.  I've thought about it but the
> > harness that hooks to the front of the PWC would be in the way of the
> > drivers head.  I don't think it would tip over though, since the boat
> > would be going 20 mph.

> What does speed have to do with it? This is all about leverage. If the
> pylon where high enough it would probably flip the jet ski just pulling
> the wakeboarder out of the water. In any case any once the boarder gets
> out to the side and makes any pull at all, the jet ski will roll over.
> Just look how far you can pull around a jet ski with the toe eye low to
> the water.

> -steve-

I try not to manhandle the PWC when I'm riding, and I use "progressive
edging" so my maximum amount of pull is at the wake, directly behind the
jetski.  If you don't swing out too wide, I don't see why it would flip
the PWC over, especially if its a 3 person.  Its all leverage like you
said, so how high can the pylon go before there's a problem?

Max Ryan

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by spACe » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:




>> > > I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
>> > > pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
>> > > this.

>> > It aint gonna happen, not enough demand.  I've thought about it but the
>> > harness that hooks to the front of the PWC would be in the way of the
>> > drivers head.  I don't think it would tip over though, since the boat
>> > would be going 20 mph.

>I try not to manhandle the PWC when I'm riding, and I use "progressive
>edging" so my maximum amount of pull is at the wake, directly behind the
>jetski.  If you don't swing out too wide, I don't see why it would flip
>the PWC over, especially if its a 3 person.  Its all leverage like you
>said, so how high can the pylon go before there's a problem?

>Max Ryan

I've been following this article for some time, thinking it was pretty funny.  
But this is starting to really scare me.  Some of you people are basically
insane!  If you think for one moment that an extended pylon is NOT going to
flip ANY PWC, you need to go back to elementary school and pay attention this
time around.

A PWC is short, light and not very stable.  It's designed to jump waves in the
ocean and, for some of you, do silly spins in the nice calm lake. There are no
tracking fins.  It's center of gravity is the bisecting line where the seat is
mounted, and by the way, where you are sitting.  Haven't you noticed that when
people try to mount (huh, huh I said mount) them, especially novices, the PWC
wants to roll.  Now lets attach a ten foot leverage pole on it and pull from
the side.  The PWC will flip over like an unmanned sail boat on a windy day.
Bye bye dry hair.

spACely

Note to Max: While it is true that a progressive pull "peaks" at the wake, it
"starts" parallel to the boat, or in this case the PWC, thus the word
pro-gres-sive:  pertaining to, or characterized by progress or advancement.  
Please watch ANY film of ANY pro rider taking a cut for ANY trick.  Their
butts (I said butt) are practically scraping the water all the way into the
wake. The pull goes from strong to stronger, not nothing to all.

 
 
 

Do they make an Extended Pylon for PWC's?

Post by Broc » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:





> >> > > I wakeboard behind a '96 XP, and was wondering if anyone makes extended
> >> > > pylons for jetskis?  Surely I'm not the only one who has thought of
> >> > > this.

> >> > It aint gonna happen, not enough demand.  I've thought about it but the
> >> > harness that hooks to the front of the PWC would be in the way of the
> >> > drivers head.  I don't think it would tip over though, since the boat
> >> > would be going 20 mph.

> >I try not to manhandle the PWC when I'm riding, and I use "progressive
> >edging" so my maximum amount of pull is at the wake, directly behind the
> >jetski.  If you don't swing out too wide, I don't see why it would flip
> >the PWC over, especially if its a 3 person.  Its all leverage like you
> >said, so how high can the pylon go before there's a problem?

> >Max Ryan

> I've been following this article for some time, thinking it was pretty funny.
> But this is starting to really scare me.  Some of you people are basically
> insane!  If you think for one moment that an extended pylon is NOT going to
> flip ANY PWC, you need to go back to elementary school and pay attention this
> time around.

> A PWC is short, light and not very stable.  It's designed to jump waves in the
> ocean and, for some of you, do silly spins in the nice calm lake. There are no
> tracking fins.  It's center of gravity is the bisecting line where the seat is
> mounted, and by the way, where you are sitting.  Haven't you noticed that when
> people try to mount (huh, huh I said mount) them, especially novices, the PWC
> wants to roll.  Now lets attach a ten foot leverage pole on it and pull from
> the side.  The PWC will flip over like an unmanned sail boat on a windy day.
> Bye bye dry hair.

> spACely

> Note to Max: While it is true that a progressive pull "peaks" at the wake, it
> "starts" parallel to the boat, or in this case the PWC, thus the word
> pro-gres-sive:  pertaining to, or characterized by progress or advancement.
> Please watch ANY film of ANY pro rider taking a cut for ANY trick.  Their
> butts (I said butt) are practically scraping the water all the way into the
> wake. The pull goes from strong to stronger, not nothing to all.

First of all, why do people like you have to be so insulting.  Can't we
all have a discussion without your smart ass, rude remarks.  How do you
know it won't work if you have not tried it.  They thought landing on
the moon was crazy too, and now they go there every day like they were
taking a trip to thier grandmothers house.  Also, who is talking about a
ten foot pole.  I'm thinking more on the lines of 3, 4 or 5 feet.  And
as far as flipping it over, I do not think this will happen.  I board
behind a Sea Doo XP, and I take hard cuts with hardly any problems.
Surely its not as good as a boat, but we can't have every thing we want
all the time now can we.  And, yes we all know how the pros cut, you are
not the only one with cable, but we are not pros and niether are you.
We aren't competing for money, were just trying to have some fun, and it
would be more fun if there was an extended pylon for PWC's, so we could
get a little more air.