Tige' Rider's Edition -vs- Super Air Nautique

Tige' Rider's Edition -vs- Super Air Nautique

Post by Todd Zaug » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00



Quote:


>> >Is there a reputable Malibu dealer around there?  If so check out the
>> >Sunsetter/WakeSetter V-drive models.

>> Yeah but we have narrowed it down to these two boats.  We would just
>> go ahead and buy the CC but the Tige' looks like two boats in one.

>> >If not your choices are a start.  Really look at them though.
>> >Construction, materials, longevity, resale - not just the bells and
>> >whistles.

>> We're the type who will use a boat for about 5 years or so and move on
>> to another.  Used Tige's seem to hold their value around these
>> parts(Austin)...of course CC maintain their value the best from what
>> we have seen.

>> >Watch the width.  Depending on your state there are limits on trailer
>> >width and may require a custom trailer.  Ask your dealer.

>> Looked into it, it's all good.

>> >I have heard and experienced the Tige' having trouble holding speeds
>(it's
>> >a big boat, I know).  Lots of throttle adjustment to maintain a
>constant
>> >speed.  My demo had the 350mag MPI.

>> We were think of getting the cruise control option if we went with the
>> Tige'.  Would that solve that problem?

>> >L10 reported that the engine noise in the Tige' was quiet and
>overall user
>> >friendly.  They didn't mention the other noises it makes.  My test
>ride in
>> >the Tige' included a rattling tower, groaning hull, vibes in the
>mirror.
>> >This has been commented on before.  IMO these are important things to
>> >notice, but I'm picky.

>> Interesting

>> >On your demo ride look for turbulence in the wake.  I didn't pay
>attention
>> >to it at first until someone pointed it out.  Also you'll notice
>that the
>> >wake to wake distance is much wider than the CC SA.  I checked from
>80' to
>> >50', it's wider.

>> i'll check it out. wakeworld rated the wakes pretty smooth in
>> comparison with the other boats reviewed(including the pro air
>> nautique).

>> >Sounds like you've made your decision already <g>.

>> Well our decision would be with the CC but we would really get a lot
>> of use out of a bigger boat.  Our minds our not made up yet.

>> >All around boat?  IMO the Tige' slalom wake doesn't come close to
>the CC
>> >SA wake above 25mph.  I remember it being very wide at 34 and 0
>off.  At
>> >34 and 15 off, a rooster tail was present.

>> Well I meant more in the way of just*** out on the lake.  That's
>> why we have narrowed it down to these two boats.  I'm sure the CC is a
>> better boat to ride behind.  From what I have heard it performs much
>> better.  The Tige' has other selling points like it's size, passenger
>> friendliness and wake control.

>> >I'm sure.  Honestly make yourself calm down.  Really look at them
>both and
>> >if possible demo the Malibu.

>> I'll try to contain myself :)

>Before you buy.  Please read the LEVEL 10 Performance report.
>For the last two years Tige' Has won WAKEBOARD Boat of the Year.
>Now I didn't say SKIBOAT I Said WAKEBOARD Boat.

>I tested all the so called Wakeboard boats out there and I agreed with
>the the Level 10 performane report.  So much that I bought a Tige' 21V
>Riders Edition.

>So far it has been the perfect Wakeboard boat.

>One last thought, you can add weigth to it and it does produce a bigger
>wake.  But you can do that with any other wakeboard boat.  All I can
>say is with out the extra weight the wake is still bigger than other
>wakeboard boats with add weight.  That includes the CC.
>Dream on!!!

>Sent via Deja.com http://SportToday.org/
>Before you buy.

 
 
 

Tige' Rider's Edition -vs- Super Air Nautique

Post by Bill - Air Junk » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I just went to the "Fly-In on the Brazos", a hydrofoil event on the Brazos
river near Ft. Worth, TX. and there were like 10 different Tige's of varying
ages there. Nice boats, damn nice, every one of them. I really liked the
"skybox seating" in the back of the 21i. The one thing I DIDN'T like was
that the wake on all of the hulls starts to flatten out after about 23 or 25
mph. We are riding at 28 - 34 mph. and the wake is virtually non-existant at
those speeds, regardless of where the TAPS is set. So the consensus among
the riders was that TAPS was almost worthless for an intermediate/advanced
foil rider at speeds over 25 mph and that weight is pretty much the only way
to get the wake we wanted. So the skybox seating was awesome with 3 people
sitting in the back of the boat & it was still very manueverable (unlike the
MC & Nautique, both of which have a hard time turning at those speeds when
weighted).
Took a few pictures & some video while we were there. Check it out at:
http://SportToday.org/
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Quote:





> >> >Is there a reputable Malibu dealer around there?  If so check out the
> >> >Sunsetter/WakeSetter V-drive models.

> >> Yeah but we have narrowed it down to these two boats.  We would just
> >> go ahead and buy the CC but the Tige' looks like two boats in one.

> >> >If not your choices are a start.  Really look at them though.
> >> >Construction, materials, longevity, resale - not just the bells and
> >> >whistles.

> >> We're the type who will use a boat for about 5 years or so and move on
> >> to another.  Used Tige's seem to hold their value around these
> >> parts(Austin)...of course CC maintain their value the best from what
> >> we have seen.

> >> >Watch the width.  Depending on your state there are limits on trailer
> >> >width and may require a custom trailer.  Ask your dealer.

> >> Looked into it, it's all good.

> >> >I have heard and experienced the Tige' having trouble holding speeds
> >(it's
> >> >a big boat, I know).  Lots of throttle adjustment to maintain a
> >constant
> >> >speed.  My demo had the 350mag MPI.

> >> We were think of getting the cruise control option if we went with the
> >> Tige'.  Would that solve that problem?

> >> >L10 reported that the engine noise in the Tige' was quiet and
> >overall user
> >> >friendly.  They didn't mention the other noises it makes.  My test
> >ride in
> >> >the Tige' included a rattling tower, groaning hull, vibes in the
> >mirror.
> >> >This has been commented on before.  IMO these are important things to
> >> >notice, but I'm picky.

> >> Interesting

> >> >On your demo ride look for turbulence in the wake.  I didn't pay
> >attention
> >> >to it at first until someone pointed it out.  Also you'll notice
> >that the
> >> >wake to wake distance is much wider than the CC SA.  I checked from
> >80' to
> >> >50', it's wider.

> >> i'll check it out. wakeworld rated the wakes pretty smooth in
> >> comparison with the other boats reviewed(including the pro air
> >> nautique).

> >> >Sounds like you've made your decision already <g>.

> >> Well our decision would be with the CC but we would really get a lot
> >> of use out of a bigger boat.  Our minds our not made up yet.

> >> >All around boat?  IMO the Tige' slalom wake doesn't come close to
> >the CC
> >> >SA wake above 25mph.  I remember it being very wide at 34 and 0
> >off.  At
> >> >34 and 15 off, a rooster tail was present.

> >> Well I meant more in the way of just*** out on the lake.  That's
> >> why we have narrowed it down to these two boats.  I'm sure the CC is a
> >> better boat to ride behind.  From what I have heard it performs much
> >> better.  The Tige' has other selling points like it's size, passenger
> >> friendliness and wake control.

> >> >I'm sure.  Honestly make yourself calm down.  Really look at them
> >both and
> >> >if possible demo the Malibu.

> >> I'll try to contain myself :)

> >Before you buy.  Please read the LEVEL 10 Performance report.
> >For the last two years Tige' Has won WAKEBOARD Boat of the Year.
> >Now I didn't say SKIBOAT I Said WAKEBOARD Boat.

> >I tested all the so called Wakeboard boats out there and I agreed with
> >the the Level 10 performane report.  So much that I bought a Tige' 21V
> >Riders Edition.

> >So far it has been the perfect Wakeboard boat.

> >One last thought, you can add weigth to it and it does produce a bigger
> >wake.  But you can do that with any other wakeboard boat.  All I can
> >say is with out the extra weight the wake is still bigger than other
> >wakeboard boats with add weight.  That includes the CC.

> >Dream on!!!

> >Sent via Deja.com http://SportToday.org/
> >Before you buy.


 
 
 

Tige' Rider's Edition -vs- Super Air Nautique

Post by Scott Bennet » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> So the consensus among the riders was that TAPS was almost worthless for an
> intermediate/advanced foil rider at speeds over 25 mph and that weight is
> pretty much the only way to get the wake we wanted. So the skybox seating was
> awesome with 3 people sitting in the back of the boat & it was still very
> manueverable (unlike the
> MC & Nautique, both of which have a hard time turning at those speeds when
> weighted).

Interesting statement.  Your saying a Nautique has a hard time turning with
weight and Tige' does not?  Since when?  How much weight?  Which CC model?
Drive type? IMO even the CC SA (v-drive) handles better than some of the direct
drives today.

My experience includes a Pro Air with full LCS (400lb), large Phatt sack in the
truck (400lb), and 6 people (4 in the rear seat, driver and shotgun, unknown
total passenger weight).  Speed ranged from 18 to 32 (some people skied but
didn't drain the water).  You noticed the added weight, but the boat certainly
didn't have a hard time with it.  In any attitude.  The 190lb slalom skier
commented on the fast pull out.

From the L10 testing:

"Absolutely the best driving boat of the test, the TWC hull was virtually
flawless in its tracking, responsiveness and stability."

(no I don't believe everything I read <g>).

Scott

 
 
 

Tige' Rider's Edition -vs- Super Air Nautique

Post by Bill - Air Junk » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

We do a few wierd tricks that are more boat & driver than rider. Like around
the world with one or two riders. The Super Air Nautique was a sluuuug
making the turn with 2 fat sacks in it.
Interesting though, the older Ski Nautiques ('90 - '95?) do it great though.
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Quote:
> > So the consensus among the riders was that TAPS was almost worthless for
an
> > intermediate/advanced foil rider at speeds over 25 mph and that weight
is
> > pretty much the only way to get the wake we wanted. So the skybox
seating was
> > awesome with 3 people sitting in the back of the boat & it was still
very
> > manueverable (unlike the
> > MC & Nautique, both of which have a hard time turning at those speeds
when
> > weighted).

> Interesting statement.  Your saying a Nautique has a hard time turning
with
> weight and Tige' does not?  Since when?  How much weight?  Which CC model?
> Drive type? IMO even the CC SA (v-drive) handles better than some of the
direct
> drives today.

> My experience includes a Pro Air with full LCS (400lb), large Phatt sack
in the
> truck (400lb), and 6 people (4 in the rear seat, driver and shotgun,
unknown
> total passenger weight).  Speed ranged from 18 to 32 (some people skied
but
> didn't drain the water).  You noticed the added weight, but the boat
certainly
> didn't have a hard time with it.  In any attitude.  The 190lb slalom skier
> commented on the fast pull out.

> >From the L10 testing:

> "Absolutely the best driving boat of the test, the TWC hull was virtually
> flawless in its tracking, responsiveness and stability."

> (no I don't believe everything I read <g>).

> Scott