Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Al » Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00


-- Drove my 1999 Correct Craft Super Air Nautique with a 502
today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- I can't wait to run across a Hammerhead or Scorpion out on the water, to
show what it has for performance...
-- Have not radar'd yet, but I will soon..  I don't beleive what I read in
print..
-- I will radar it myself, to get a true speed. Has to be 55 or
better!!!!!!!
-- This should finally put the Horsepower Race to bed.....
-- Indmar and Merclooser are definetly sucking wind on this one..
-- I'll inform of speed soon.....

                               Al

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Greg Falcone » Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Why don't you buy or barrow a GPS unit, it will give you an accurate speed
to at least 1/10 mph.


Quote:
>-- Drove my 1999 Correct Craft Super Air Nautique with a 502
>today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>--Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>-- I can't wait to run across a Hammerhead or Scorpion out on the water, to
>show what it has for performance...
>-- Have not radar'd yet, but I will soon..  I don't beleive what I read in
>print..
>-- I will radar it myself, to get a true speed. Has to be 55 or
>better!!!!!!!
>-- This should finally put the Horsepower Race to bed.....
>-- Indmar and Merclooser are definetly sucking wind on this one..
>-- I'll inform of speed soon.....

>                               Al


 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Ray Pulle » Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>-- Drove my 1999 Correct Craft Super Air Nautique with a 502
>today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>--Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>-- I can't wait to run across a Hammerhead or Scorpion out on the water, to
>show what it has for performance...
>-- Have not radar'd yet, but I will soon..  I don't beleive what I read in
>print..
>-- I will radar it myself, to get a true speed. Has to be 55 or
>better!!!!!!!
>-- This should finally put the Horsepower Race to bed.....
>-- Indmar and Merclooser are definetly sucking wind on this one..
>-- I'll inform of speed soon.....

>                               Al

Well, as the saying goes, "speed costs money, how fast ya wanna go?' or "there
is no subsitute for cubic inches". Frankly, a 10% or so increase in top speed
over a good 350 seems like not much for a 43% increase in cubes. If my memory
serves correctly, there are several boats in this range already (Sanger?) and a
big block is nothing new.  Shows to go ya that the hull and other design
elements are the main factor in the speed of a tourney boat. Bet it gets there
pretty quick, though!

Ray

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by MQualkin » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Well, as the saying goes, "speed costs money, how fast ya wanna go?' or
>"there
>is no subsitute for cubic inches". Frankly, a 10% or so increase in top speed
>over a good 350 seems like not much for a 43% increase in cubes. If my memory
>serves correctly, there are several boats in this range already (Sanger?) and
>a
>big block is nothing new.  Shows to go ya that the hull and other design
>elements are the main factor in the speed of a tourney boat. Bet it gets
>there
>pretty quick, though!

>Ray

I think all these small blocks strung out on steroids are eventually going to
break.  I've always been a big block advocate and would have to congratulate
PCM for considering durability as the main issue because I have no doubt that
the GT 40 Extreme was to dangerous for this conservative company.

Mark

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by jstant.. » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
engine. The Air Nautique is aimed at the boarding market who don't
need to go 50+ mph to do their thing. In fact, when I look at the CC
lineup, I notice that they don't have a hull that has any particular
appeal to barefooters. So why is CC including this engine? I also
understand that CC has an exclusive for it which most likely cost them
additional money.

It probably is the barefooters, ski flyers, and speed skiers that need
this type of engine. I just don't see CC hulls used by barefooters out
here in the delta barefoot sloughs. I would be surprise to find out
that speed skiers prize CC boats. The only speed skier I've talk to
walked over to admire my SN but not for speed skiing (her boat had
broken down that day). Judging from her story about being med-evac to
a hospital during a race in Australia, I don't expect much of CC's
current customer base to starting taking up speed skiing. And, when
was the last time a ski flyer walked into the local CC dealer to buy a
boat? Probably hasn't happened yet and I suspect that the year 2K
problem would be lone gone by then.

As I stated in an earlier post, I believe this engine in the CC lineup
is just for novelty. Much like the Hammerhead in Malibu's lineup. At
least Malibu has some appeal to barefooters though.

So far, I say pass on the Python and the Apex for the GT-40. Use that
money saved for something else or better yet save it. This doesn't
apply to multi-millionaires who experience "burning hole in pocket"
syndrome.

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by KENGIBBO » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
>engine. The Air Nautique is aimed at the boarding market who don't
>need to go 50+ mph to do their thing. In fact, when I look at the CC
>lineup, I notice that they don't have a hull that has any particular
>appeal to barefooters. So why is CC including this engine? I also
>understand that CC has an exclusive for it which most likely cost them
>additional money.

Jeff, I swear, you're going to have to get a legal name change before you buy
your next SN.  Will they let you in any CC dealerships anymore?  :-)

Maybe that big block adds something to wakeboarding, namely more weight for a
phatter wake.  But what does it do to the slalom wake?  If MC or anyone else
added a big block, I would wonder about the down side.

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by BRG15 » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> Drove my 1999 Correct Craft Super Air Nautique with a 502
>> today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> --Absolutely AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only word that comes to mind is DAMN!!!
 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Mark Leno » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
> engine.

I agree with that.

As you say, maybe as a specialty thing for ski flying, but there's not
much market there.

Speed skiing is totally out of the realm of which Correct Craft is capable
of operating in.  Mid 50 mph speeds aren't even fast enough for warm up.
The west-coast speedboat builders are much more capable in this arena.

Regular skiing and moderate barefooting are taken care of pretty well with
the GT-40.

Probably the only boat in CC's lineup I'd want a 502 in is the Super Sport
v-drive.  It's a pretty big boat, and could use the extra ponies.
Besides that, the extra width wouldn't be an issue as the engine box goes
gunnel to gunnel anyway.  Another 5-10 mph in cruise speed could be very
useful on big lakes, and the extra couple hundred pounds wouldn't affect
that boat at all..  Fuel economy probably wouldn't suffer too much unless
you were actually using that extra performance <grin>.   Most high-end
lake cruisers that the Super Sport competes against have big-block engine
options, and I guess it's for a reason.

Personally, I'd be very worried about keeping a transmission together
behind that thing.  It's a brute for torque.

I could just imagine what my insurance company would say to a 450 HP SN.
Shortly after, "How much horsepower?", it'd be, "Make check payable to..."

Mark Lenox

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by erich zellme » Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:



> > Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
> > engine.

> I agree with that.

> As you say, maybe as a specialty thing for ski flying, but there's not
> much market there.

> Speed skiing is totally out of the realm of which Correct Craft is capable
> of operating in.  Mid 50 mph speeds aren't even fast enough for warm up.
> The west-coast speedboat builders are much more capable in this arena.

> Regular skiing and moderate barefooting are taken care of pretty well with
> the GT-40.

> Probably the only boat in CC's lineup I'd want a 502 in is the Super Sport
> v-drive.  It's a pretty big boat, and could use the extra ponies.
> Besides that, the extra width wouldn't be an issue as the engine box goes
> gunnel to gunnel anyway.  Another 5-10 mph in cruise speed could be very
> useful on big lakes, and the extra couple hundred pounds wouldn't affect
> that boat at all..  Fuel economy probably wouldn't suffer too much unless
> you were actually using that extra performance <grin>.   Most high-end
> lake cruisers that the Super Sport competes against have big-block engine
> options, and I guess it's for a reason.

> Personally, I'd be very worried about keeping a transmission together
> behind that thing.  It's a brute for torque.

> I could just imagine what my insurance company would say to a 450 HP SN.
> Shortly after, "How much horsepower?", it'd be, "Make check payable to..."

> Mark Lenox

The Super Air Nautique is a V-drive.
 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by jstant.. » Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>>Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
>>engine. The Air Nautique is aimed at the boarding market who don't
>>need to go 50+ mph to do their thing. In fact, when I look at the CC
>>lineup, I notice that they don't have a hull that has any particular
>>appeal to barefooters. So why is CC including this engine? I also
>>understand that CC has an exclusive for it which most likely cost them
>>additional money.

>Jeff, I swear, you're going to have to get a legal name change before you buy
>your next SN.  Will they let you in any CC dealerships anymore?  :-)

>Maybe that big block adds something to wakeboarding, namely more weight for a
>phatter wake.  But what does it do to the slalom wake?  If MC or anyone else
>added a big block, I would wonder about the down side.

It looks as if I don't have to worry about that since my next boat is
shaping up to be the Malibu Response LX. This will end my long
standing string of buying CC (long for me anyhow). Kids and close-bows
don't mix as well as the open-bows do. Since slalom will always be the
priority, a full-size open-bow is out and the SNOB's open-bow is abit
too small and shallow for me to feel comfortable with kids up there. A
Malibu Response LX with a wedge fits the bill the best.

As to the 502 added to the wake for boarders, I'd bet that it may be
cost effective to get the integrated tanks rather than this motor. I
do agree with what Mark Lenox said about the 502 having a home in the
Super Sport though.

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Ray Pulle » Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>I think all these small blocks strung out on steroids are eventually going to
>break.  I've always been a big block advocate and would have to congratulate
>PCM for considering durability as the main issue because I have no doubt that
>the GT 40 Extreme was to dangerous for this conservative company.

>Mark

I do not think the higher hp small blocks of today are being pushed hard at all.
The biggest gains have come from the addition of high flow off the shelf heads
that are the same as what you would find in a truck (Vortec anyway). Other
tricks like roller valve trains will increase the durability of cam and valve
gear. Other helpful additions like spark control, EFI, knock sensing, etc.. will
also most likely add to longevity rather than detract.

Ray

 
 
 

Super Air Nautique W/ 502!!!!!!!!!

Post by Ray Pulle » Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:



>>>Somewhere along the line I missed the point of CC having this PCM 502
>>>engine. The Air Nautique is aimed at the boarding market who don't
>>>need to go 50+ mph to do their thing. In fact, when I look at the CC
>>>lineup, I notice that they don't have a hull that has any particular
>>>appeal to barefooters. So why is CC including this engine? I also
>>>understand that CC has an exclusive for it which most likely cost them
>>>additional money.

>>Jeff, I swear, you're going to have to get a legal name change before you buy
>>your next SN.  Will they let you in any CC dealerships anymore?  :-)

>>Maybe that big block adds something to wakeboarding, namely more weight for a
>>phatter wake.  But what does it do to the slalom wake?  If MC or anyone else
>>added a big block, I would wonder about the down side.

>It looks as if I don't have to worry about that since my next boat is
>shaping up to be the Malibu Response LX. This will end my long
>standing string of buying CC (long for me anyhow). Kids and close-bows
>don't mix as well as the open-bows do. Since slalom will always be the
>priority, a full-size open-bow is out and the SNOB's open-bow is abit
>too small and shallow for me to feel comfortable with kids up there. A
>Malibu Response LX with a wedge fits the bill the best.

>As to the 502 added to the wake for boarders, I'd bet that it may be
>cost effective to get the integrated tanks rather than this motor. I
>do agree with what Mark Lenox said about the 502 having a home in the
>Super Sport though.

Ah, another pilgrim has seen the light!

Seriously, is the Response LX bow area really bigger/deeper than the SN? When I
bought my Sunsetter we did not buy an Echelon LX 'cause we felt that the bow
area was small, shallow, and would be worrisome with kids (have gone to closed
bow now, fewer kids!).

The wedge, now that is a different matter altogether. Hard to beat, I think. I
simply have no interest in filling and draining huge tanks, especially those
that take up interior room or overload the boat. Besides, switching back to
"slalom mode" with a tank is too much trouble.

Ray